[SPA] La Liga 2009/2010 (8 Viewers)

Jul 12, 2002
5,666
better for you, what kind of art?
I'm a writer of sorts. I mean, I guess you have to make money to be a writer, technically speaking, but I write all kinds of things with the hope of one day (probably long after my death) of being appreciated for it.

There is nothing irrational about disliking a dishonest and disloyal individual.
I personally don't think it's disloyal of me to leave a club that betrayed everything that it stood for, and I certainly don't see how I'm dishonest.

So, you call me a douchebag, an idiot, dishonest, disloyal, and numerous other derogatory things; based solely on my decision to stop supporting a club that was dishonest and disloyal to me...And that's not irrational?

I believe this sums u up quite well.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,112
I personally don't think it's disloyal of me to leave a club that betrayed everything that it stood for, and I certainly don't see how I'm dishonest.

So, you call me a douchebag, an idiot, dishonest, disloyal, and numerous other derogatory things; based solely on my decision to stop supporting a club that was dishonest and disloyal to me...And that's not irrational?

I believe this sums u up quite well.
Not only that (which is frankly sad anyway because you make it seem like all Juventus supporters condone cheating -- you did once too, considering you were a supposed Juve fan once). But I've never really been a fan of you on multiple levels, including your politics.

Again, I hope Barca becomes involved with some sort of scandal, transporting young Brazilian trannies around the world with the help of Ronaldo. Perhaps then you'll move back to Juventus. :pado:

Either than that, good riddance to you.
 
Jul 12, 2002
5,666
Can you please explain here if you don't mind?
Sure:

I became a juventus fan following Edwin Van der Sar's transfer to the club. At the time, I did not consider myself a "fan" of any club, but Juve were a traditional, respectable, old school club that endeared itself to me.

After years of supporting the club, several things happened which I feel were betrayals to the fans. First (and probably most important), Juventus became a publicly traded company. I was a fan of Juventus FC, not Juventus Inc. I am not in favour of this kind of "football company" and the money-centred atmosphere leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Next, Juve systematically brought in overpaid foreign mercenaries at the expense of homegrown youth. I hate this and I think it's a betrayal of everyone involved with the club and the game. Next, Juve sold the stadium name, jersey, and club symbol to corporate interests. I simply can not stand for that kind of blatant profiteering. Finally, the straw that broke the camels back was to find out that Juve were in fact guilty of match-fixing and transfer rigging. I had defended the club innumerable times from these allegations and honestly believed them to be conspiracy theories only to find out that Juve were in fact just as corrupt as they were said to be.

so, I felt betrayed by the club, and that the club was not loyal or honest to me in lying about nearly everything and selling itself out in the most horrible ways.
 
Jul 12, 2002
5,666
Not only that (which is frankly sad anyway because you make it seem like all Juventus supporters condone cheating -- you did once too, considering you were a supposed Juve fan once). But I've never really been a fan of you on multiple levels, including your politics.
Oh, so by being a Juve fan at one time I condoned cheating? You should really click on that link where "irrational" is defined. and it's no surprise to me that you were never a fan of me. Ignorance is rarely a fan of intelligence.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,112
Oh, so by being a Juve fan at one time I condoned cheating? You should really click on that link where "irrational" is defined. and it's no surprise to me that you were never a fan of me. Ignorance is rarely a fan of intelligence.
Indeed, I was right. You really are a douchebag.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,112
BRILLIANT! How do you come up with that kind of witty reparte?
Oh, right. Like I'm supposed to waste my time partaking in banter such as, "you're ignorant, I'm intelligent," "NO!, I'm intelligent, you're ignorant!"

Here, let me provide you with something up your ally then:

"I'm rubber, you're glue. What bounces off me, sticks to you." :pado:

My God, what an imbecile.
 

RavaneVialli

Senior Member
Jan 27, 2008
863
I thought Barca sells their jerseys, but that would mean they are blatanlty profiteering, those bloody capitalists, so I must be wrong.

I also never understood their mission of not selling their advertising area on jerseys for sponsors and also giving UNICEF more or less 1% of their income for the good of the poor children.
Like it wouldn't be more intelligent to sell the jersey to the sponsor for some 25 m euro and give, along with 1% of income, those 25m more to the children.
 
Jul 12, 2002
5,666
I thought Barca sells their jerseys, but that would mean they are blatanlty profiteering, those bloody capitalists, so I must be wrong.

I also never understood their mission of not selling their advertising area on jerseys for sponsors and also giving UNICEF more or less 1% of their income for the good of the poor children.
Like it wouldn't be more intelligent to sell the jersey to the sponsor for some 25 m euro and give, along with 1% of income, those 25m more to the children.
Of course Barca sells their jersey, what I meant was that Juve basically sold the look of the team to Nike and I didn't appreciate that. And barca has never had a shirt sponsor and probably never will. It's about class and integrity. I guess Juve donates its shirt sponsorship money to Unicef?

And again, pick and choose those parts of a single whole which you feel you may be able to tear down. You don't want to talk about foreign mercenaries, or corporately owned clubs, or match fixing, just shirts...Sad....
 

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