[Serie A] Siena - Juventus (12 Viewers)

denco

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Jul 12, 2002
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Paolo Sosa said:
easy denco we just won
Its this kind of mentality that has put on in this position, 14 points ahead of milan to just 3 in a few weeks and you want me to sing the praises. I am just pointing out facts to ya, if you dont like it then thats your problem but i am not jumping on roof tops as this has been a disgusting season as far as i am concerned mailny due to the manager. People are criticising Mourinho but he is 12 points ahead of his nearest challengersand gave them a good hiding yesterday. We on the other hand are having to watch our backs and having fans nervous at playing the likes of Siena, Palermo and Reginna because we have a manger who has fooked up big time. When was the last time you have a juve squad where players are fighting eachother or Camoranesi behaving the way he has this season or Nedved getting 3 red cards in a season? Its very poor management as he has built a squad of infighting, lack of discipline and resentment within the ranks. i am still not sure why Thuram is dropped and why Buffon has pulled up lately at the beginning of matches with mysterious injuries. Something is very wrong
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
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denco said:
Its this kind of mentality that has put on in this position, 14 points ahead of milan to just 3 in a few weeks and you want me to sing the praises. I am just pointing out facts to ya, if you dont like it then thats your problem but i am not jumping on roof tops as this has been a disgusting season as far as i am concerned mailny due to the manager. People are criticising Mourinho but he is 12 points ahead of his nearest challengersand gave them a good hiding yesterday. We on the other hand are having to watch our backs and having fans nervous at playing the likes of Siena, Palermo and Reginna because we have a manger who has fooked up big time. When was the last time you have a juve squad where players are fighting eachother or Camoranesi behaving the way he has this season or Nedved getting 3 red cards in a season? Its very poor management as he has built a squad of infighting, lack of discipline and resentment within the ranks. i am still not sure why Thuram is dropped and why Buffon has pulled up lately at the beginning of matches with mysterious injuries. Something is very wrong
You make valid points, denco, but I wouldn't go as far as saying we've had a disgusting season. We're on top of the league with 2 games to go.

Still, it has been pretty dodgy in terms of player performances and even though we've managed to grind out results on many occasions, our play hasn't been all that good.

It is on this account the manager must take responsibility.

Also, Capello has not been rotating the squad properly, as many of us have stated several times, which makes him somewhat of a relic in this modern era.
It is very unlikely that we'll win the Champions League, for instance, with a manager like that.

He put Zlatan on the bench today, however, and playing Mutu on the right - which I critizised before the game - finally payed off.

Now I just hope he can continue playing Trez-Del Piero upfront so we can win this thing!
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Well, RAI International split coverage between this match and Milan-Livorno, so I won't provide my usual ratings having only effectively seen half the match. But here are my observations:

  • [*]Score early, score often
    It sounds obvious, but the major key I saw to us turning the tide on all these ties was drawing first blood. Sooner or later, our finishing luck would return (I think we've had some poor luck in the past several matches as well) -- and in the first eight minutes of this match it looked as if we were making up for lost time. Anything we touched went in.

    I don't take much more confidence in those eight minutes, however. We're just as susceptible to stalling out against Palermo or at Reggina as we have done recently. If Siena scored first, or if we couldn't score until the second half, this would have been a very different match. But it's a good confidence boost to get the scoring-first monkey off our backs.

    [*]Did Capello's medications suddenly wear off?
    It was bizarre watching a match where I pretty much agreed verbatim with Capello's starting lineup. And while the Zebina for Mutu sub was a little odd, I agreed with his other subs. Player rotation -- we need it. Particularly with a nice advantage.

    [*]Unexpected form from unexpected players
    Vieira had an excellent match... seemingly out of the blue, given his season's second half performances. But there were others who had solid games today. Balzaretti looked good in defense and covered the length of the field. Kovac had a very good match.

    And perhaps most surprisingly, what was with Zebina off the bench today? I had to rub my eyes a few times to make sure I wasn't seeing things: a terrific cross to DP that would have been 4-0 if not for a lightning-fast reaction save from Fortin. And some clever dribbling in the box? Who was that guy? It certainly wasn't the Zebina I know.

So two games and four points to go. It's in the realm of doable. And while you can't say a win at Siena exactly makes us championship-caliber material, getting in the W column was a huge necessity going into this final stretch.

I only hope that positive reinforcement works on Capello and he doesn't go back on his meds again before the season is out.
 

ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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Yeh did you see how Del Piero tricked everyone by faking with his right leg and shooting with his left. If it wasn't for a terrifc stop by the keeper it was going to be our fourth goal of the afternoon.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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ZAF3000 said:
Yeh did you see how Del Piero tricked everyone by faking with his right leg and shooting with his left. If it wasn't for a terrifc stop by the keeper it was going to be our fourth goal of the afternoon.
Yep. DP definitely had an impact game, even if he wasn't in the limelight.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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ZAF3000 said:
Yeh did you see how Del Piero tricked everyone by faking with his right leg and shooting with his left. If it wasn't for a terrifc stop by the keeper it was going to be our fourth goal of the afternoon.
I loved that touch, It's not easy to score the way he tried to do It today. But he was very close.
 

Tifoso

Sempre e solo Juve
Aug 12, 2005
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swag said:
Yep. DP definitely had an impact game, even if he wasn't in the limelight.

His assists on goal #2 and #3 were brilliant.:pint:

Asked in another thread: why the black arm bands? Lippi's mother (may she rest in peace)?
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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No problem. What's great about a forum like this is that we otherwise might not know what that was about.
 

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