[Serie A] Roma 1-3 JUVENTUS, August 30th 2009 (11 Viewers)
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Great Win exactly what we need to push ourselves further. The performance was good but i think we can improve even more.
Just a few points, as basically everything i want to say has been said.
- Football is changing, its the brazilians that run the most these days. I know its still early but the fitness of our players isn't up to par. They were dead tired but the 75th minute. I hope its only due to the early stages of the season.
- DC, mixed bag for him but i expect better because we have seen better from him. I'm happy that Ciro is giving him a chance and sticking with him because he could potentially become a good player. He needs to work on some aspects of his game with the most important one being awareness and positioning. On a positive note he did well offensively as he linked well most of the time and delivered a couple of good crosses.
- Marchi, another mixed bag. Hopefully the injury is not bad and he gets back soon. His strongest point is the way he uses the short passes and movement. We have not seen that at all in the two games. We need him to be more box to box, because other than camo he is the only CM that could offer that quality. I am sure we will see better performances once he understands how the system and the players around play.
- Tiago, still improving but am still not entirely sold. He needs to be more positive, especially with his passing. Those qualities are missing from deep in the midfield and thats why hes there. Encouraging with the effort though.
iaq was invisible until he assisted Diego with that flick. Amauri was frustrated as Dom mentioned, and even though its not bad, i hope it doesn't get to his head. Diego is class and showed he doesn't mind dirtying his hands, while Melo proved he is simply crazy but what player!
Just a few points, as basically everything i want to say has been said.
- Football is changing, its the brazilians that run the most these days. I know its still early but the fitness of our players isn't up to par. They were dead tired but the 75th minute. I hope its only due to the early stages of the season.
- DC, mixed bag for him but i expect better because we have seen better from him. I'm happy that Ciro is giving him a chance and sticking with him because he could potentially become a good player. He needs to work on some aspects of his game with the most important one being awareness and positioning. On a positive note he did well offensively as he linked well most of the time and delivered a couple of good crosses.
- Marchi, another mixed bag. Hopefully the injury is not bad and he gets back soon. His strongest point is the way he uses the short passes and movement. We have not seen that at all in the two games. We need him to be more box to box, because other than camo he is the only CM that could offer that quality. I am sure we will see better performances once he understands how the system and the players around play.
- Tiago, still improving but am still not entirely sold. He needs to be more positive, especially with his passing. Those qualities are missing from deep in the midfield and thats why hes there. Encouraging with the effort though.
iaq was invisible until he assisted Diego with that flick. Amauri was frustrated as Dom mentioned, and even though its not bad, i hope it doesn't get to his head. Diego is class and showed he doesn't mind dirtying his hands, while Melo proved he is simply crazy but what player!
My take on the game: well deserved victory (both sides had their chances but in the end we were the better team), pretty good game by us, definitely some improvement over the previous game.
Buffon - 6,5: reasonably quiet game, but was there when called upon (the 1 on 1 vs Totti).
Grygera - 6: did ok in defence, once again added nothing in attack.
Cannavaro - 6,5: another good game, albeit not as impressive as last week.
Chiellini - 6,5: formed a good partnership with Fabio, kept the Roma attackers as quiet as possible.
De Ceglie - 6: worryingly bad going forward, surprisingly ok in defence (excluding a few minor problems).
Tiago - 6: did his job but nothing more.
Melo - 7,5: would have been the MOM were it not for Diego. Dazzling amount of interceptions, composed play. He should think & act faster at some moments though. Oh, and did I mention he scored a goal?
Marchisio - 6: comparable to Tiago.
Diego - 8,5: drifted out of the game completely at some times but other than that he was on fire. 2 cool & composed finishes, good workrate. I like what I'm seeing so far.
Iaquinta - 6: quiet game, but was involved in 2 goals (small flick on the ball to mess with Roma's D & give Diego the advantage; smart running allowing Melo to move forward & shoot)
Amauri - 6: unlucky game but he did give the Roma backline a hard time.
Camoranesi - 6: ok, nothing special.
Legrottaglie - 6: some difficulties coming into the game but overall very few troubles.
Oh and
Buffon - 6,5: reasonably quiet game, but was there when called upon (the 1 on 1 vs Totti).
Grygera - 6: did ok in defence, once again added nothing in attack.
Cannavaro - 6,5: another good game, albeit not as impressive as last week.
Chiellini - 6,5: formed a good partnership with Fabio, kept the Roma attackers as quiet as possible.
De Ceglie - 6: worryingly bad going forward, surprisingly ok in defence (excluding a few minor problems).
Tiago - 6: did his job but nothing more.
Melo - 7,5: would have been the MOM were it not for Diego. Dazzling amount of interceptions, composed play. He should think & act faster at some moments though. Oh, and did I mention he scored a goal?
Marchisio - 6: comparable to Tiago.
Diego - 8,5: drifted out of the game completely at some times but other than that he was on fire. 2 cool & composed finishes, good workrate. I like what I'm seeing so far.
Iaquinta - 6: quiet game, but was involved in 2 goals (small flick on the ball to mess with Roma's D & give Diego the advantage; smart running allowing Melo to move forward & shoot)
Amauri - 6: unlucky game but he did give the Roma backline a hard time.
Camoranesi - 6: ok, nothing special.
Legrottaglie - 6: some difficulties coming into the game but overall very few troubles.
Oh and
^ Welcome Deyan.
A very very good point. We do have the tools to outcome this situation.
But our latest coaches were so stubborn and coward who wouldnt risk such a thing. Ferrara does not afraid of his ideas and he does have real time interactivity with what is going on the field. His subs and intuitions were spot on and i trust that he will come up with this optimal/apparent solution, when this issue pops up!
More impressive than Nedved certainly, but better overall... (Neddy was a beast at defending, attacking, out-muscling, out-running, scoring from impossible distances, always fighting to the lest minute)
Well, hopefully Diego will be too, i wish him all the best.
Diego certainly has the potential and the will to win titles and do wonders with us!
This is very important for our cause, above all i wish him health and he will soon be
RIP to his grand mother...
Excellent suggestions, i agree!
-Brazilians always were top class, we were playing with a handicap without them!
That was the main point of criticism vs the old managers. I m really glad we have changed that and it has worked out pretty well!!
-I dont know whats wrong with DC, but i hope that he finds himself soon...
-Marchisio is a smart boy and has great tactical awareness and the skills to offer both offensively and defensively. I am confident he can still improve a lot and adapt to any midfield situation!
I have great expectations from him and i hope that his injury isnt anything serious!
-Tiago will hopefully find the spark, the will and the ambition to fight!
-And such a great flick it was, both impressive, efficient and crucial!
His fighting spirit is what kept him on, he was a constant threat, so was Amauri and the forced Roma to spread out and let some more space to Diego,
a lethal mistake...
However for that reasons our attacking hounds were very important tactically,
despite the lack of finishing. I cant wait for the days Ciro will start bringing Treze back to the team and create the conditions for him to start scoring again.
A very very good point. We do have the tools to outcome this situation.
But our latest coaches were so stubborn and coward who wouldnt risk such a thing. Ferrara does not afraid of his ideas and he does have real time interactivity with what is going on the field. His subs and intuitions were spot on and i trust that he will come up with this optimal/apparent solution, when this issue pops up!
More impressive than Nedved certainly, but better overall... (Neddy was a beast at defending, attacking, out-muscling, out-running, scoring from impossible distances, always fighting to the lest minute)
Well, hopefully Diego will be too, i wish him all the best.
Diego certainly has the potential and the will to win titles and do wonders with us!
This is very important for our cause, above all i wish him health and he will soon be
I saw an interview of Melo on controcampo and he started crying and his voice was breaking, he said it was an extremely emotional time/game for him, and that God truly exists in his eyes. He said this as yesterday his grandmother died, and he knows she is in a better place, and he dedicated this game to her. He was really emotional.
Grande Melo
Grande Melo
RIP to his grand mother...Excellent suggestions, i agree!
-Brazilians always were top class, we were playing with a handicap without them!
That was the main point of criticism vs the old managers. I m really glad we have changed that and it has worked out pretty well!!
-I dont know whats wrong with DC, but i hope that he finds himself soon...
-Marchisio is a smart boy and has great tactical awareness and the skills to offer both offensively and defensively. I am confident he can still improve a lot and adapt to any midfield situation!
I have great expectations from him and i hope that his injury isnt anything serious!
-Tiago will hopefully find the spark, the will and the ambition to fight!
-And such a great flick it was, both impressive, efficient and crucial!
His fighting spirit is what kept him on, he was a constant threat, so was Amauri and the forced Roma to spread out and let some more space to Diego,
a lethal mistake...
However for that reasons our attacking hounds were very important tactically,
despite the lack of finishing. I cant wait for the days Ciro will start bringing Treze back to the team and create the conditions for him to start scoring again.
LOL.... HERE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRwDwjncdiw
AT 0:08 .... Melo goes wild like a gorilla claiming his girls in the jungle!!
Loved it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRwDwjncdiw
AT 0:08 .... Melo goes wild like a gorilla claiming his girls in the jungle!!
Loved it
First, the negatives.
-) I was complaining about this before the season even started and I fear it will continue to haunt us for the rest of the season if we don't do something quick. Our fullbacks are simply not up to standard, they are our weak links and we cannot afford to have them on this Juve team. De Ceglie may still improve but is not ready at the moment, while Gryegra is just well, Grygera.
Positives.
1) Our midfield is superb thanks to Felipe Melo. This guy is worth not only 20 M, but 40 M if he can continue to put in performances like that. He was all over the pitch and absolutely dominated the midfield. And that explosive run in the dying minutes before he scored n.3 just demonstrates the tremendous versatility this player possesses. Just thinking of the partnership he could form with a fit Sissoko is mouthwatering.
2) Diego is the spark this team has needed for so long. His irresistable talent is an asset to us already, and his presence really does give us a shot at winning some silverware this season. His first goal was sublime, I don't think we have had a player that was able to run at defenders like that so easilly and then masterfully finish it off with a beautifully placed goal. I don't want to compare him to anyone as he is a very unique legend in the making.
3) Our defense looks much stronger with the presence of Fabio. He's putting in stellar performances lately. If only we could strengthen our fullback positions, our defense could be one of the best in Europe.
4) We finally have a team that plays attractive football. If we go back to the Capello era, I don't think any single one of us would have expected an attractive Juventus team three years later. We play one touch football, we have creative players that can move the ball around well, dribble past players, and hold possession nicely. I certainly didn't expect such a dramatic transformation from the lethargic, mundane, boring side we had during the Capello era to this exciting, innovative, and fresh Juventus side we have now. But that's just the beauty of it, serie B as bitter as it was, truly was a blessing in disguise it seems.
-) I was complaining about this before the season even started and I fear it will continue to haunt us for the rest of the season if we don't do something quick. Our fullbacks are simply not up to standard, they are our weak links and we cannot afford to have them on this Juve team. De Ceglie may still improve but is not ready at the moment, while Gryegra is just well, Grygera.
Positives.
1) Our midfield is superb thanks to Felipe Melo. This guy is worth not only 20 M, but 40 M if he can continue to put in performances like that. He was all over the pitch and absolutely dominated the midfield. And that explosive run in the dying minutes before he scored n.3 just demonstrates the tremendous versatility this player possesses. Just thinking of the partnership he could form with a fit Sissoko is mouthwatering.
2) Diego is the spark this team has needed for so long. His irresistable talent is an asset to us already, and his presence really does give us a shot at winning some silverware this season. His first goal was sublime, I don't think we have had a player that was able to run at defenders like that so easilly and then masterfully finish it off with a beautifully placed goal. I don't want to compare him to anyone as he is a very unique legend in the making.
3) Our defense looks much stronger with the presence of Fabio. He's putting in stellar performances lately. If only we could strengthen our fullback positions, our defense could be one of the best in Europe.
4) We finally have a team that plays attractive football. If we go back to the Capello era, I don't think any single one of us would have expected an attractive Juventus team three years later. We play one touch football, we have creative players that can move the ball around well, dribble past players, and hold possession nicely. I certainly didn't expect such a dramatic transformation from the lethargic, mundane, boring side we had during the Capello era to this exciting, innovative, and fresh Juventus side we have now. But that's just the beauty of it, serie B as bitter as it was, truly was a blessing in disguise it seems.