Serie A: Reggina vs Juventus [Feb 23 , 2008] (13 Viewers)

[swag]

actually the ref didnt do any mistakes, he did that on purpose,
at the beginning of the game i thought this ref wanted to be fair and to avoid to determine the outcome of the game, avoiding any penalties and red cards.

I had the same thought. I thought it was objectionable that he didn't call the clear mugging of Nedved, the clear trip of Momo, etc. But I kept saying to myself, "All this is legitimate as long as he is ref'ing this game by making the players win this on the pitch and not with shady penalty kicks."

So what does the moron do in the last couple minutes? Totally go soft and suddenly award an incredibly soft penalty that decides the match. What a frigging retard.

 

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[Holdon]

we were definetly robbed by the ref no doubt about it but nevertheless we played a poor game

I'm not picking on you as others have said the same and I agree that we were poor, but that doesn't give us the right to lose or be the victims of a poor referee.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Again two pwnalty Ignored for Juventus, one on Nedved and another on Sissoko.
And one penalty awarded against Juve.

This season, refrees has got 8 points from Juve so far.

what 8 points

officially 16 points stolen by ref

 

[ZAF3000]

Whoever is blaming Sissoko is simply an idiot IMHO.

Who doesn't know the rules of this game better just keep quiet and stay out of his keyboard.

We were robbed as simple as that.

exactly.

As said before, A dangerous play can never be put as a penalty kick. If inside the box its called FK inside the box. And it is the only call the ref can give to what sissoko has done. A sane ref would have even waved play on.

 

[ZAF3000]

Again two pwnalty Ignored for Juventus, one on Nedved and another on Sissoko.
And one penalty awarded against Juve.

This season, refrees has got 8 points from Juve so far.

You are missing another two for us. The header of Camoranesi that got diflected by the players arm (some might call this a weak one) The 4th was time when camoranesi passed the ball and defender stopped it with his elbow.

So between 3-4 PKs weren't given to juve last night.. And thats just in aone single game.

 

[Salvatore]

For the ones bitching about our team's performance, i have no words,
i think they are the same persons, that where happy with the relegation of Juve, so that serie A will be a "clean" competition. As of know they should have seen that we relegated for nothing!! Serie A isnt any less corrupted now, actually its even worse, since the balance of powers is broken. None of the big teams have ever been slaughtered this way, as we did this year in the Moggi era!
Our team isnt as powerful as it once were. The difference between us and smaller teams like Reggina is smaller than ever. We are no longer in a position to dominate all these teams from start to the last minutes. Esp without some of our key players/champions.
However Juve's jersey is proud that doesnt allows our players to lose such games,
every time our enemies are leading, our players become full of a mad passion
and a will to equalise no matter if our opponent is Inter or Reggina!!
Most of the times we do manage to equalise and in some cases eveb turn those games, it happened many times over this season, it cant be a coincidence!
Under those circumstances, the full potential of our team is unlocked, thats what Reggina saw in the second half and they were so scared that they barely had a2-3 chances in the entire 45'
CR had no options for this game, personnel or tactics,
he fielded the best possible material and made the best possible subs,
the only thing that could have made the difference in this game, is our players moral. And it did made the difference tactic wise, we actually did turned tables on the tactic level, a frankly believe thats the best our team could under those circumstances!
Unfortunately this efforts didnt translate to any points, not because of our players efficiency, neither Reggina's, but beacuse of the Ref's "mistakes",
actually the ref didnt do any mistakes, he did that on purpose,
at the beginning of the game i thought this ref wanted to be fair and to avoid to determine the outcome of the game, avoiding any penalties and red cards.
We were denied 4 penalties, 2 were similar cases with one that helped Inter to disqualify us, from the cup, one was crystal clear foul on Sissoko, a foul visible from angle on and off the field and that harrashment on Neddy.
I know that a ref has to make on the spot decisions, but this ref saw on the videos and was announced by his assistants that he made 4 mistakes against Juve,
how could he do that blunder in the end???
The only excuse he had in my mind is that he didnt want to determine a match by his hand, but thats exactly what he did!!!
He didnt respected his profession, he didnt respected his position, he didnt respected his salary, he was determined to hurt us!!
I wonder what kind of gains he was offered, as he knows that the press of Italy and a great part of Europe will know that he picked sides against a team that has been repeatedly violated this year.

Firstly, I would like to say that in no way was I happy with our relegation.

Onto the rest of your report. Compare our squad yesterday to the Refgina one. The majority of our players have been called up to their national teams before. Thats enough for me to expect a damned good performance, even if we draw because they defended well.

I agree with you about Serie A being scandalous, and the referee with Refgina.

I don't know why you thought Camo deserved a 6 rating, to me it should be 5 or lower. Molinaro deserved the same rating as our central defenders, because Grygera was our worst player on pitch by a country mile. You were a bit harsh on Palla, because like you said, he is an SS and not a CF, so him being in the boxes for the crosses was the only thing to do, but sadly he didn't impress. I agree with what the rest said about him.

The rest of your ratings are spot on though.

 

[ESS-Juventino]

what 8 points

officially 16 points stolen by ref

I ment at least 8 points!

 

[Stu]

ratings:

Belardi - 6
Grygera - 4
Legrottaglie - 5
Chiellini - 6.5
Molinaro - 4.5
Camoranesi - 6.5
Sissoko - 6.5
Zanetti - 5.5
Nedved - 6.5
Del Piero - 6.5
Palladino - 5

 

[Dostoevsky]

I really don`t know what was so special about Camoranesi yesterday.

 

[mondo1]

I can't stand this shit anymore something has to be done... all the fans should protest against this fucking shit here FUCK U SERIE A...

 

[Gill_juve]

i thought camo played well but not in the same crisp sharp way he usually does. now we just need to move onto tuesday.

 

[Snoop]

Forza Ranieri the greatness!!

 

[Dostoevsky]

 

[The Curr]

Cobolli demands foreign refs

Juventus President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli demands a clampdown on poor referees, even if it means bringing officials in from overseas.

The Turin giants were livid after a 2-1 defeat away to Reggina last night, in which they appeared to be denied at least two clear penalties with another two dubious incidents.

“It’s the same thing that happened at Napoli,” said the patron, referring to a 3-1 defeat at the San Paolo earlier this season with similarly debatable decisions.

“Juve will not pass judgment on referees, but the Federation must look at its conscience and take action. Mistakes can happen, but not repeatedly.

“Juventus won on the pitch here and deserved the three points. I cannot complain about the performance of my players or Coach. In my view, the referee was not up to the task.”

Paolo Dondarini further infuriated the Bianconeri by awarding Reggina a stoppage-time penalty for Momo Sissoko’s clumsy clearance that struck Nicola Amoruso.

What really irritated them, though, was that at least two clear spot-kicks were earlier denied to Juve. Both were for fouls by Valdez, who climbed all over Pavel Nedved and then evidently tripped Sissoko.

“I don’t want to believe in bad faith, but the approach and judgment of the referee was evidently more in favour of one side than the other. It was so very obvious,” added Cobolli Gigli.

“Something has to be done to improve the impartiality of officials, as it was clear for everyone tonight what happened.

“I think the refereeing designator has to quickly provide officials with the technological advantages that they desperately need, even if Sissoko’s penalty incident was a metre away from the referee, so all he needed was to use his eyes.”

Coach Claudio Ranieri hinted that Juve were being made to pay for the Calciopoli scandal, but the President saw a bigger picture.

“I absolutely do not believe in a plot against Juventus, otherwise I would not be here doing this job. It’s the quality of the referees that is much lower than it needs to be. I never wanted foreign referees in Serie A, but at this point it might be the solution.

“Many clubs have been penalised by poor decision-making, not just Juve. Of course, some clubs were penalised less than others.”

The reference was obviously to Inter, who have been on the end of a string of favourable decisions this term.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb24c.html

 

[JamalRice10]

"Cobolli demands foreign refs" true but when u say a u have 2 say b we played poorly. Its no way there should be able to play on the same level as us. We are Juve 27 leagues reggina not 1 :S and look the price of our squad over 180mill, now look at them 50 mill :S if so much. we need to stop complaining about the ref althought its horrible so much and work harder. FORZA JUVE!!!!

 

[ZAF3000]

"Cobolli demands foreign refs" true but when u say a u have 2 say b we played poorly. Its no way there should be able to play on the same level as us. We are Juve 27 leagues reggina not 1 :S and look the price of our squad over 180mill, now look at them 50 mill :S if so much. we need to stop complaining about the ref althought its horrible so much and work harder. FORZA JUVE!!!!

Although I agree with you, the ref did damage us last night. How do you want to play when the ref clearly denies you 4 PKs and then at the last min of the match awards the opponants an imaginary PK?
Its not like we had 1 questionable PK not awarded to us, 4 PK in our favour and 1 PK against us. This is how much we suffered.
If only 1 of the 4 was to be scored we could've won 2-1.

 

[JamalRice10]

Although I agree with you, the ref did damage us last night. How do you want to play when the ref clearly denies you 4 PKs and then at the last min of the match awards the opponants an imaginary PK?
Its not like we had 1 questionable PK not awarded to us, 4 PK in our favour and 1 PK against us. This is how much we suffered.
If only 1 of the 4 was to be scored we could've won 2-1.

i argee with u also but what goes around comes around. I think some times we blame the ref for our below par performances which was clear last night. All of our defenders was bad last night even our mastro cz was poor in midfield we need to look at both aspects. I remember watching juve years back and we got freekick outside the box which where questionable and then del would step up and finish and win from a drawing position teams would feel like well how we feel right now.

 

[JamalRice10]

lolololol inter draw i gald

 

[The Curr]

"Cobolli demands foreign refs" true but when u say a u have 2 say b we played poorly. Its no way there should be able to play on the same level as us. We are Juve 27 leagues reggina not 1 :S and look the price of our squad over 180mill, now look at them 50 mill :S if so much. we need to stop complaining about the ref althought its horrible so much and work harder. FORZA JUVE!!!!

I agree with you. Apart from the ref's "performance" the Juve players weren't good enough lastnight.

 

[Albertmare]

Forza Ranieri the greatness!!