[Serie A] Juventus - Siena (2 Viewers)

Holygr4le

Senior Member
Aug 4, 2005
2,539
Ok.
Here we go.

Game summary:
Not one of the brightest nights in Delle Alpi. Juventus lived up to the old nick “boring Juventus”. It seems as all the lower ranked teams we meet at home are scared shitless for the task and just lay down showing their respect for the queen.
In other words: there were only one team on the pitch and they weren’t even playing well.
Movement, creativity and speed were all attributes showing there absence yesterday. Control, pattern and security were the words of the day.
Overall this winter brake comes in a good time.

Defense:
Solid defensively, invisible offensively.
Zambo is not what he can be placed on that right wing and Chiellini did try as usual but nothing came out of his efforts. Centrally where solid as always. Thuram showed some nerves in the beginning of the game but became old Thuram after the first 15.

Midfield:

As the defense very good and solid in the center and defensively. The wings did not work yesterday and you can easily see that Mutu is uncomfortable in that position.
They did not work for each other and they are hard to motivate.

Attack:
Trez reliable as usual. He has an incredible strike momentum at the moment and is looking better then ever. Ibra on the other hand looks as he hates football. Not enjoying anything on the pitch, complaining at fellow colleges and hanging with his head.

Abbiati
6,5
Solid! Looks better and better for every game.

Zambo
5,5
Not getting as much ball as he wants. Depending a bit on the form on how well Cammo plays.

Canna
7,0
MOM. Scored a goal and did not make an entire mistake for the whole game. Played smart in the box and took away the danger with class.

Thuram
6,0
Looked a bit shaky but got over it.

Chiellini
6,0
Better then in his last 3 games. Still looses the ball but made a solid defensive game.

Cammo
5,5
Invisible. Tried and laughed but made a very small impact on the game.

Viera
6,0
Looked better then his last appearances. Works well with Emo as usual and hold his position thru out the game. Not very constructive though.

Emo
6,5
Did his job with a goldstar. Closed the surface and took out the passways. Great in his defensive role.

Mutu
6,0
Wrong position and should maybe got a 5.5 remark but deserves his 6 by the work he putted in. Showed how much he wants to play. If everyone had worked as hard as him we would have scored 2 more goals.

Trez
7,0
He scores. Enough said.

Ibra
4,5
He needs to start enjoying the game.He never laughs any more. Frustrated and irritated. Makes rookie mistakes all the time. It is time to visit your old friend Mr Bench.


Subs

DP
6,0
Tried hard and wanted that goal so bad. Missed two great chances. Still an injection, a small injection.

Zala
5,5
Not bad, not good. Looked rather fast and tried even though communication did not work.


Starting 11 for next match:

-----------------------Abbiati-------------------------
Zebina(?)------Thuram----------Canna-----Zambo
---------------------Emerson-------------------------
----Cammo----------------Viera--------------------
-----------------------------------------Mutu---------
---------------Trez--------DP-------------------------
 

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Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
Holygr4le said:
Ok.
Here we go.

Game summary:
Not one of the brightest nights in Delle Alpi. Juventus lived up to the old nick “boring Juventus”. It seems as all the lower ranked teams we meet at home are scared shitless for the task and just lay down showing their respect for the queen.
In other words: there were only one team on the pitch and they weren’t even playing well.
Movement, creativity and speed were all attributes showing there absence yesterday. Control, pattern and security were the words of the day.
Overall this winter brake comes in a good time.

Defense:
Solid defensively, invisible offensively.
Zambo is not what he can be placed on that right wing and Chiellini did try as usual but nothing came out of his efforts. Centrally where solid as always. Thuram showed some nerves in the beginning of the game but became old Thuram after the first 15.

Midfield:

As the defense very good and solid in the center and defensively. The wings did not work yesterday and you can easily see that Mutu is uncomfortable in that position.
They did not work for each other and they are hard to motivate.

Attack:
Trez reliable as usual. He has an incredible strike momentum at the moment and is looking better then ever. Ibra on the other hand looks as he hates football. Not enjoying anything on the pitch, complaining at fellow colleges and hanging with his head.

Abbiati
6,5
Solid! Looks better and better for every game.

Zambo
5,5
Not getting as much ball as he wants. Depending a bit on the form on how well Cammo plays.

Canna
7,0
MOM. Scored a goal and did not make an entire mistake for the whole game. Played smart in the box and took away the danger with class.

Thuram
6,0
Looked a bit shaky but got over it.

Chiellini
6,0
Better then in his last 3 games. Still looses the ball but made a solid defensive game.

Cammo
5,5
Invisible. Tried and laughed but made a very small impact on the game.

Viera
6,0
Looked better then his last appearances. Works well with Emo as usual and hold his position thru out the game. Not very constructive though.

Emo
6,5
Did his job with a goldstar. Closed the surface and took out the passways. Great in his defensive role.

Mutu
6,0
Wrong position and should maybe got a 5.5 remark but deserves his 6 by the work he putted in. Showed how much he wants to play. If everyone had worked as hard as him we would have scored 2 more goals.

Trez
7,0
He scores. Enough said.

Ibra
4,5
He needs to start enjoying the game.He never laughs any more. Frustrated and irritated. Makes rookie mistakes all the time. It is time to visit your old friend Mr Bench.


Subs

DP
6,0
Tried hard and wanted that goal so bad. Missed two great chances. Still an injection, a small injection.

Zala
5,5
Not bad, not good. Looked rather fast and tried even though communication did not work.


Starting 11 for next match:

-----------------------Abbiati-------------------------
Zebina(?)------Thuram----------Canna-----Zambo
---------------------Emerson-------------------------
----Cammo----------------Viera--------------------
-----------------------------------------Mutu---------
---------------Trez--------DP------------------------
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what´s up mate?
1.Why should Chielini not play in your opinion?
2. Zambrotta is suspended for next match.
 

Holygr4le

Senior Member
Aug 4, 2005
2,539
Maresca said:
what´s up mate?
1.Why should Chielini not play in your opinion?
2. Zambrotta is suspended for next match.
I´m all good! :) You?

1: If Zebina is ok we shold play with him and Zambo as wings IMO. Chiellini is ok but really not good enough for the starting eleven. He is not a worldclass player.

2: Ok. My bad. Should have knowed that. In that case Chiellini can play.


I thought he did a good game (as you can see in my ratings) but just seeing him on the pitch tells me our roster is a bit to week.
But what really gets on my nerves is that we do not paste up!!! It is like they all are sleeping out there. Mourinho talked about how important it was to provide the players with adrenaline as they went into every game. Because when you win and win and win it is so much harder to get the boost before a game.

That is my biggest fear. Capello not being able to create that killer instinct.
Just look how we played against BM in the game you went to and we lost. They did not move. Looked like statues out there.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
Ibrahimovic9 said:
what does del piero have to do in order to get a starting place
???????
More like what does Ibrahimovic have to do in order to be benched. I'm sure that as long as Zlatan is fit he will start in our next match (against Palermo) even though he was disappointing in the Lazio game and shite yesterday against Siena.
 

Akerman

Senior Member
Oct 20, 2005
864
We should have played one of our wingers behind Trez and DP second half because our wingers were not doing their job.

I don't know what's up with Zlatan, he's looks frustrated and there is rumours floating around that he's actually injuried in his legs. He havn't been able to practice that much. If that's the case, then why risk getting a player even more injuried and not able to play at his potential instead of putting in a DP with no injury and who is about to score his 183'th goal. DP actually did very good, although he overdid his chances to make them look legendary. When juventus is leading 2-0 you have the right to do that. ;)
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
I just saw the highlights. Camo assisted both goals which were well taken by Cannavaro and Trezeguet. Cool finishing from the Frenchman as usual.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
I really don't care whether Chiellini will start or not, though he didn't play bad, I want Zambrotta back to his place....just like Vinni said...The guy is not playing like before ffs....Put him on the back on the left.
 

Holygr4le

Senior Member
Aug 4, 2005
2,539
Azzurri7 said:
I really don't care whether Chiellini will start or not, though he didn't play bad, I want Zambrotta back to his place....just like Vinni said...The guy is not playing like before ffs....Put him on the back on the left.
It´s like when Cappello finds a player he likes. Its almost as they are sacret. He wants Chiellini to play so he puts Zambrotta to the right. And thats the end to it. It is a pity really...
Same with the other players as well.
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
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Abbiati 6
Zambrotta 6
Thuram 5.5
Cannavaro 7
Chiellini 6.5
Camoranesi 6
Emerson 6
Vieira 6.5
Mutu 5.5
Ibrahimovic 5
Trezeguet 7
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Azzurri7 said:
Looking back at the Lazio game, Zlatan was supposed to be dropped on the bench. Not that he's playing horrible, but from time to time he should sit on the bench just like the others to know how much is it to always performe good.

I always thought Capello was the one that said "there's no untouchable here at Juve". Seems the press either got it wrong or he was trying to make fun of us.

Alessandro doesn't really deserve to be dropped this way. Atleast he should show some respect for him above that show some respect for the display he has shown this season.
Very well said.:agree:
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Vinman said:
Let me start out by saying that this performance wasnt much better than the one against Lazio....it's just that Siena is worse off than Lazio. If I didnt know better, I'd think our guys minds were on Christmas shopping, rather than the game.

I am having a real hard time understanding why Cap wont sit an obviously out of form Zlatan...I knew a week ago that DP didnt have a snowflakes chance in hell at starting this game, because Cap doesnt trust him anywhere near as much as he does Zlatan...I see how Cap thinks- he's a narrow minded, 1 trick pony, who will get us ELIMINATED from the CL.........GUARANTEED !!!!!

If not for a set-piece goal, a 'keeper error, and a couple posts, this game could've been much different


my ratings-

Abbiati- was he out of the box ??? replays say....maybe !! 6

Chiellini- he was off my radar today, which means that he was ok 6

Canna- good goal, a couple mistakes later in the game, but nothing as dumb as Thurams last week 6.5

Thuram- much better tonight, but couldnt do any worse than last game 6

Zambrotta- Cap, are you listening ??? better on the LEFT !!!! 5.5

Emerson- he wa solid...was what we were missing against Lazio 6.5

Vieira- decent...like Rab already said, he could push up into the attack more 6.5

Camoranesi- not the typical Camo performance today...just didnt do enough 5.5

Mutu- you cant make a dog meow...hes NOT a winger !! might as well make him the backup 'keeper too, Cap. He is playing out of freakin position, and it shows !! 5.5

Zlatan- Vieri has no right foot, and Zlatan has no left !! Defenses are realizing how to stop him, by forcing him to make plays with his left foot...havent seen him lose the ball as much as today. He should be BENCHED !!!! 4.5

Trezeguet- bad goalkeeper error led to the goal...Trez is Trez !! 6.5

Del Piero- he tried waaaay too hard for the goal, and so was everyone else who was trying to get him the ball. He just needs to let it happen...but he also isnt getting enough playing time 5.5

Zalayeta- No rating


Capello- for the second week in a row, he didnt have his guys ready. It's just lucky we played a poor team like Siena, otherwise, we could be in some trouble. Cap 's selection and tactics are predictable, and it will get us beat when it counts most 4
Thanx for the analysis Vinni!:thumbs:
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Tifoso said:
He really can do nothing Cap thinks he is an old guy that has past his prime and plays him when the game is over or when its not important.. ffs Mutu got more playing time than DP did .. if Zlatan and Trezeguet are fit they play and thats it

and i guess we should live with it Ale is a bench player he is just like Zalayeta and Pessotto or any other back up players we have
:cry:
 

Juve89

The Farmer
May 27, 2004
3,420
Holygr4le said:
Ok.
Here we go.

Game summary:
Not one of the brightest nights in Delle Alpi. Juventus lived up to the old nick “boring Juventus”. It seems as all the lower ranked teams we meet at home are scared shitless for the task and just lay down showing their respect for the queen.
In other words: there were only one team on the pitch and they weren’t even playing well.
Movement, creativity and speed were all attributes showing there absence yesterday. Control, pattern and security were the words of the day.
Overall this winter brake comes in a good time.

Defense:
Solid defensively, invisible offensively.
Zambo is not what he can be placed on that right wing and Chiellini did try as usual but nothing came out of his efforts. Centrally where solid as always. Thuram showed some nerves in the beginning of the game but became old Thuram after the first 15.

Midfield:

As the defense very good and solid in the center and defensively. The wings did not work yesterday and you can easily see that Mutu is uncomfortable in that position.
They did not work for each other and they are hard to motivate.

Attack:
Trez reliable as usual. He has an incredible strike momentum at the moment and is looking better then ever. Ibra on the other hand looks as he hates football. Not enjoying anything on the pitch, complaining at fellow colleges and hanging with his head.

Abbiati
6,5
Solid! Looks better and better for every game.

Zambo
5,5
Not getting as much ball as he wants. Depending a bit on the form on how well Cammo plays.

Canna
7,0
MOM. Scored a goal and did not make an entire mistake for the whole game. Played smart in the box and took away the danger with class.

Thuram
6,0
Looked a bit shaky but got over it.

Chiellini
6,0
Better then in his last 3 games. Still looses the ball but made a solid defensive game.

Cammo
5,5
Invisible. Tried and laughed but made a very small impact on the game.

Viera
6,0
Looked better then his last appearances. Works well with Emo as usual and hold his position thru out the game. Not very constructive though.

Emo
6,5
Did his job with a goldstar. Closed the surface and took out the passways. Great in his defensive role.

Mutu
6,0
Wrong position and should maybe got a 5.5 remark but deserves his 6 by the work he putted in. Showed how much he wants to play. If everyone had worked as hard as him we would have scored 2 more goals.

Trez
7,0
He scores. Enough said.

Ibra
4,5
He needs to start enjoying the game.He never laughs any more. Frustrated and irritated. Makes rookie mistakes all the time. It is time to visit your old friend Mr Bench.


Subs

DP
6,0
Tried hard and wanted that goal so bad. Missed two great chances. Still an injection, a small injection.

Zala
5,5
Not bad, not good. Looked rather fast and tried even though communication did not work.


Starting 11 for next match:

-----------------------Abbiati-------------------------
Zebina(?)------Thuram----------Canna-----Zambo
---------------------Emerson-------------------------
----Cammo----------------Viera--------------------
-----------------------------------------Mutu---------
---------------Trez--------DP-------------------------

Cheers, great post:agree:
 

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