[Serie A] Juventus - Palermo (15 Viewers)

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
ZhiXin said:
Regarding Substitution-wise, it is really getting on my nerves. I can predict who Capello will take off in any game, either Mutu/Camo/Balzaretti/Del Piero. Camoranesi is clearly frustrated that he is taken off all the time, and u know that he has a temper, so..........
wat other options he has on the bench ? wat would players like blasi or gianni add to the game, or even zalayeta.

He already had a yellow card, and he with his temper and challenges he should expect to get substituted. Camo should have enough experience to hold himself from making foolish mistakes..i would expect those mistakes from the younger players .
 

Ivyscorpioo

Junior Member
Apr 4, 2006
70
Just wandering if Zabc in Camo's shoes what will happen. Camo get red cards and was fined 2 times. And Cap's baby don't lost a penny for bad behaviour. They said for the unity of the term. Is Camo part of the term? Or it is Zaltan only in the coach's heart.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
snoop said:
Everyone plases keep this shity comments about the players and the coach in their own threads. don't make the whole forum disugusting again like it was before..

I am talking about Zlatan vs DP vs Capello crap..
trying to look like a moderator???
 

Sadomin

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2005
7,327
snoop said:
excuse me? who the fuck are you?
I'm saying that you do not have to be a moderator in order be civil and help these forums. This is what Azzurri's post implied and I was fucking helping you. Too much testosterone flowing around at this place.
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
sateeh said:
wat other options he has on the bench ? wat would players like blasi or gianni add to the game, or even zalayeta.

He already had a yellow card, and he with his temper and challenges he should expect to get substituted. Camo should have enough experience to hold himself from making foolish mistakes..i would expect those mistakes from the younger players .
Options? Capello has lots of options for the players in his disposal, but he chooses to use the 4-4-2 system.

In last year I'm sure there r similar cases like getting a yellow card. In fact, players do get booked now and then and they can still play for the whole game.

Do you know why his temper has resurfaced again? I really think that it is due to improper treatment that caused him this. remember last season, he did really great. What about the games which he didn't receive a yellow card? In this case your are saying that Gattuso should be substituted becos he has a temper, does rough challenges and is easily booked. No, he does it for the team.

And it is pretty weird that Nedved's case is simply ignored.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
ZhiXin said:
Options? Capello has lots of options for the players in his disposal, but he chooses to use the 4-4-2 system.

In last year I'm sure there r similar cases like getting a yellow card. In fact, players do get booked now and then and they can still play for the whole game.

Do you know why his temper has resurfaced again? I really think that it is due to improper treatment that caused him this. remember last season, he did really great. What about the games which he didn't receive a yellow card? In this case your are saying that Gattuso should be substituted becos he has a temper, does rough challenges and is easily booked. No, he does it for the team.

And it is pretty weird that Nedved's case is simply ignored.
i didnt mention the use of any system there, i was strictly talking abt personnel. Using a different system wouldn't change anything. We dont have that much depth in the squad.

how can u be sure that i really dont see this improper treatment ur talking abt ? If he plays every game every minute then its lack of rotation and not giving the other players a chance. Improper treatment is portrayed in alex's case not camos
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
sateeh said:
i didnt mention the use of any system there, i was strictly talking abt personnel. Using a different system wouldn't change anything. We dont have that much depth in the squad.

how can u be sure that i really dont see this improper treatment ur talking abt ? If he plays every game every minute then its lack of rotation and not giving the other players a chance. Improper treatment is portrayed in alex's case not camos
Lack of depth? We have been lacking in depth since don't know when yet we still go on well. How can u be sure that using different personnel in a different system will bring harm to the team? Of course I'm not talking about Blasi, Olivera and Zalayeta, but the rest of the team as well.

Improper treatment of Camo? I can give u a few examples.

Substitutions.
I'm sure he can play for a 90 minute game instead of being substituted most of the time.
When we r in trouble against Milan, Camo, who is the most creative personnel that we have, is taken off.
Camoranesi has been subbed out after being a substitute for some1 else.

Camoranesi isn't really a good tempered person. It is his nature. Of course he will protest under all these conditions.

I can just see that Camoranesi will be another Montella in the making. Selling Camoranesi and Tudor will be a grave mistake.
 

THE CHAMPIONS

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2006
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denco said:
iu wish i could return the compliment but fortunaetly i no more read your posts. Moving on swiftly, I am not sure how much bs Moggi nad his antics can bring to this club before people start believing them. You know I will defininetly respect people more if they said they don't care how Moggi does it but as long as we win, nothing else matters but to say they are waiting for allegations to be proven before they believe, beggars belief. Moggi was allegedly caught on tape saying stuff to Pieretto like has the referee been arranged and pieretto is alleged to have said, "you know i always deliver and the ref knows what to do, and also he would see decisions that are not even there" but somehow we think the whole world is against us. Believe me if our football was like Barcelona's and we were conquering Europe then i would have said, this maybe a conspiracy but its not and we do not and referring decisions in our favour are alarming
it may seem like u post amaizing stuff for most of the people here but the truth is that u post DIFFERENT BULLSHIT not like the Bullshit of (anti-Cap anti-Zlatan FOREVER weagon) post.Ur stuff is different but for me it contains more Bullshit than the others but it is just different bullshit!:agree:
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
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THE CHAMPIONS said:
it may seem like u post amaizing stuff for most of the people here but the truth is that u post DIFFERENT BULLSHIT not like the Bullshit of (anti-Cap anti-Zlatan FOREVER weagon) post.Ur stuff is different but for me it contains more Bullshit than the others but it is just different bullshit!:agree:
If you think its bullshit and you continually read it, what does that make you eh?If you think i will only blame when things are going bad and go overboard with praises when things are going bad , then you are even more retarded than i gave you debit for. Moggi is a louse and thats has been going on for far too long. Are you and your supporters saying that Rumenigge who likened his tactics to the mafia , too has something against him as well? Way too much bad publicity. Winning the league whilst playing piss poor football and in the meantime, manipulating the league mught impress the likes of you but it does nothing for me. i have never liked him and i never will. I have never appreciated him and i never will. What he has done is not exactly rocket science with his purchases but the way he as gone about ruining the name of this great club is something i just cannot forgive. He should not even be allowed to go to Inter, he should be kicked out of football altogether
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Sadomin said:
I'm saying that you do not have to be a moderator in order be civil and help these forums. This is what Azzurri's post implied and I was fucking helping you. Too much testosterone flowing around at this place.
oh sorry man, the time I posted that I was trying to recover from not sleeping for two days, will you forgive me? :frown2:
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Fliakis said:
no, he's trying to keep this place civilized. read what sadomin said.


and ffs, leave your puny fights for msn, there's enough bs over here already.
cheers man, let him bark, I am not reading his posts for month anyway..
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
ZhiXin said:
Lack of depth? We have been lacking in depth since don't know when yet we still go on well. How can u be sure that using different personnel in a different system will bring harm to the team? Of course I'm not talking about Blasi, Olivera and Zalayeta, but the rest of the team as well.

Improper treatment of Camo? I can give u a few examples.

Substitutions.
I'm sure he can play for a 90 minute game instead of being substituted most of the time.
When we r in trouble against Milan, Camo, who is the most creative personnel that we have, is taken off.
Camoranesi has been subbed out after being a substitute for some1 else.

Camoranesi isn't really a good tempered person. It is his nature. Of course he will protest under all these conditions.

I can just see that Camoranesi will be another Montella in the making. Selling Camoranesi and Tudor will be a grave mistake.
well when i wrote abt lack of rotation, there was certain players that r targeted in my statement...especially players from the defense and the midfield.Thats where signs of fatigue appeared the most.Not the attack.
How can u be sure that personnel in a different system will benefit the team? Anyway again i didnt talk abt any system, only personnel. The fact that a new system would benefit the team or not is irrelevant here. I'm talking if the system was changed then how is it different when it comes to subs? Cap doesnt have a very wide choice on the bench and u said that now u know that hes either going to sub mutu or camo or balza or watever.

now if hes a team player why would he complain if hes subbed ?He has to play every game 90 mins ? He knows nobody can take his spot on the starting line up and thats wat matters.

anyway he should control watever happens thats the different between us and them.They r payed professionals
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
sateeh said:
well when i wrote abt lack of rotation, there was certain players that r targeted in my statement...especially players from the defense and the midfield.Thats where signs of fatigue appeared the most.Not the attack.
How can u be sure that personnel in a different system will benefit the team? Anyway again i didnt talk abt any system, only personnel. The fact that a new system would benefit the team or not is irrelevant here. I'm talking if the system was changed then how is it different when it comes to subs? Cap doesnt have a very wide choice on the bench and u said that now u know that hes either going to sub mutu or camo or balza or watever.

now if hes a team player why would he complain if hes subbed ?He has to play every game 90 mins ? He knows nobody can take his spot on the starting line up and thats wat matters.

anyway he should control watever happens thats the different between us and them.They r payed professionals
We have to try to see if we will succeed, but as I see, sticking to the same 11 players in the same formation will not help. Whether the system is changed or using the subs, a team like Juventus should be no problem in it. For example, you can move Zambrotta back to RM since we have both Chiellini and Balzaretti who can play at LB. I'm sure that our bench isn't really that bad as people said.

Regarding substitutions, I see Camoranesi being taken off regardless of the situation. Camoranesi has always been a good team player, but the gesture he did at Arsenal has always guaranteed that something is wrong between the relationship of Capello and himself. You can't expect everybody to behave like Del Piero

I really hope Camoranesi stays on in Juventus.
 

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