[Serie A] JUVENTUS 1-0 Torino (Feb. 23rd 2014) (40 Viewers)
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Whether it's deliberate or not doesn't matter. He could have gone after the ball and still fouled. It's whether the contact interfered enough to make a difference in the play. In this case it didn't. The Torino guy's bad touch took him out of the play more than Pirlo did. Without the dive, no one would have noticed Pirlo's contact.
Talk about exaggeration.
Contact was obvious though and I am sure Rizzoli saw it well. Whether it was enough to give a penalty is dubious.
However, take into account we are talking about a player who was booked for a dive just a week ago in Verona and you can see where Rizzoli was coming from when he decided not to award a penalty.
Contact was obvious though and I am sure Rizzoli saw it well. Whether it was enough to give a penalty is dubious.
However, take into account we are talking about a player who was booked for a dive just a week ago in Verona and you can see where Rizzoli was coming from when he decided not to award a penalty.
At best that was a 50/50 penalty call for Kaddouri. At best... Minimal contact, and Kaddouri took another step before comically throwing himself to the ground. Besides the fact that he had over-touched the ball too far out in front of him to even continue with it, as the Juve player (Pogba) had gotten to the ball as he began his dive.
Besides this, members of this forum clamouring for a penalty for Torino should have been doing the same for Giovinco instead of calling him a wimp and saying he should just get up the other match. That was a far clearer penalty than this one. It's not like we have been overly favoured by the refs this year. We've had a few incidents in our favour and a few go against us. The lack of a last man red card foul for that tackle on Giovinco last match was also pretty ridiculous.
And **** Torino. Complaining about the offside goal last match that was hardly offside, while Immobile should have seen straight red plus a suspension for his reckless dive in challenge on Tevez's ankle. That could have broken his ankle, and 90% of the time is a straight red.
Besides this, members of this forum clamouring for a penalty for Torino should have been doing the same for Giovinco instead of calling him a wimp and saying he should just get up the other match. That was a far clearer penalty than this one. It's not like we have been overly favoured by the refs this year. We've had a few incidents in our favour and a few go against us. The lack of a last man red card foul for that tackle on Giovinco last match was also pretty ridiculous.
And **** Torino. Complaining about the offside goal last match that was hardly offside, while Immobile should have seen straight red plus a suspension for his reckless dive in challenge on Tevez's ankle. That could have broken his ankle, and 90% of the time is a straight red.
not a penalty. it was just a little touch and Kaddouri overreacted to make it seem as if it was. and to be honest when we had a free kick the torino players where hugging our players like they were gay or something which according to the referees in our real Madrid game would have been a penalty (chiellini ramos incident) so we should have got 5 penalties for that at least.
It was a penalty after you see the replay. However, it was very difficult to see in normal play. My first reaction was that it was a clear dive. So it was an honest refereeing error but one that you can't be too harsh on as it was a difficult call. I just hope that everyone doesn't start calling us cheats again on the basis of a refereeing error that goes our way.
Some belated thoughts:
Decent performance from Juve in what was an awkward game.
Aside from their midfield pushing a little too high up early on and that leaving dangerous spaces for Torino to attack, Juve played a pretty good half.
Not that they were making lots of chances or looking terribly threatening, but they were in control of the game and they got a goal. Was a great goal as well - precisely the sort of thing you are looking for from a player like Tevez.
Juve continued to take no risks up to an hour when Torino finally decided they might think about trying to play Juve a bit and not just watch Juve shuffling the ball around on the halfway line.
Juve could have done more to exploit the spaces that Torino then left, but continued to play a safe game.
Good to see Conte's continuing willingness to to surrender territory and possession against dangerous counter-attacking teams so that they aren't able to counter-attack. That's not something Conte showed any great willingness to do prior to this season.
Only times that Torino looked dangerous were when Juve over-covered in the middle and allowed too much time and space for Torino's wingbacks in wide areas. Understandable to a point, but I still don't like seeing Juve's wingbacks being drawn too much into the middle of the pitch when they have three centre-halves behind them. Asamoah in particular, I thought, spent too much time playing against Cerci when I thought Caceres should have taken that responsibility and left Asamoah to focus on controlling the flank. That's not a critisim of those players as I'm sure it's how Conte told them to play. I just thought it was a little too cautious.
Clearly, for all Juve played a generally decent game, there were individual errors that put them in awkward situations and they got help from the ref to get out of them. The penalty call is what is getting the most attention, but I actually thought that the failure to send Vidal off was the worse call in terms of how clear it was at the time.
Decent performance from Juve in what was an awkward game.
Aside from their midfield pushing a little too high up early on and that leaving dangerous spaces for Torino to attack, Juve played a pretty good half.
Not that they were making lots of chances or looking terribly threatening, but they were in control of the game and they got a goal. Was a great goal as well - precisely the sort of thing you are looking for from a player like Tevez.
Juve continued to take no risks up to an hour when Torino finally decided they might think about trying to play Juve a bit and not just watch Juve shuffling the ball around on the halfway line.
Juve could have done more to exploit the spaces that Torino then left, but continued to play a safe game.
Good to see Conte's continuing willingness to to surrender territory and possession against dangerous counter-attacking teams so that they aren't able to counter-attack. That's not something Conte showed any great willingness to do prior to this season.
Only times that Torino looked dangerous were when Juve over-covered in the middle and allowed too much time and space for Torino's wingbacks in wide areas. Understandable to a point, but I still don't like seeing Juve's wingbacks being drawn too much into the middle of the pitch when they have three centre-halves behind them. Asamoah in particular, I thought, spent too much time playing against Cerci when I thought Caceres should have taken that responsibility and left Asamoah to focus on controlling the flank. That's not a critisim of those players as I'm sure it's how Conte told them to play. I just thought it was a little too cautious.
Clearly, for all Juve played a generally decent game, there were individual errors that put them in awkward situations and they got help from the ref to get out of them. The penalty call is what is getting the most attention, but I actually thought that the failure to send Vidal off was the worse call in terms of how clear it was at the time.
