[Serie A] JUVENTUS 0-1 Udinese (August 23rd, 2015) (2 Viewers)
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It wasn't our the best performance by far, but I don't see any reasons for the way most of you are panicking here.
Juve was the better team and we should have scored not once. When Udinese scored that was their first shot on goal and that was the moment when we saw buffon for the first time in play as well. So nobody can say that we were worst team, or even they were anywhere close to being remotely equal to Juve. With this kind of performance it would be logical that we won this match, but in football the better team doesn't always win. That is the main moral of the match.
Now, having said that, we still need to learn something from the match. Which is that some players are not that trustworthy and also that we need some creative AM/Trequartista that will help us in unfortunate situations like this. Pogba is not AM or Trequartista and he cannot handle that role any time soon or at all.
Juve was the better team and we should have scored not once. When Udinese scored that was their first shot on goal and that was the moment when we saw buffon for the first time in play as well. So nobody can say that we were worst team, or even they were anywhere close to being remotely equal to Juve. With this kind of performance it would be logical that we won this match, but in football the better team doesn't always win. That is the main moral of the match.
Now, having said that, we still need to learn something from the match. Which is that some players are not that trustworthy and also that we need some creative AM/Trequartista that will help us in unfortunate situations like this. Pogba is not AM or Trequartista and he cannot handle that role any time soon or at all.
Wow, you found exceptions to what I said. I never said it was impossible to win with an old-fashioned center-forward. Lewandowski is quite a well-rounded striker. Definitely isn't a poacher. The difference between Bayern with him up front and Mandzukic is quite substantial though, and I think it helps prove my point.
You're making things up now. I clearly didn't say that
I find your dismissive attitude a little pathetic. The concept of a striker being a fantastic finisher, but a poor footballer in general isn't as asinine as you make it seem.
For example. As fantastic a striker as Inzagi was I don't think a team could win a competitive league with a striker like him nowadays. I think football has moved on.
All I was trying to say is that sometimes a striker that scores less would increase the total output of a side vs someone who scores more. Not an outlandish claim. Yet some people can't get past this simplistic notion that, "he's a striker, all he has do is score goals"
I find your dismissive attitude a little pathetic. The concept of a striker being a fantastic finisher, but a poor footballer in general isn't as asinine as you make it seem.
For example. As fantastic a striker as Inzagi was I don't think a team could win a competitive league with a striker like him nowadays. I think football has moved on.
All I was trying to say is that sometimes a striker that scores less would increase the total output of a side vs someone who scores more. Not an outlandish claim. Yet some people can't get past this simplistic notion that, "he's a striker, all he has do is score goals"
As the most insulted Belgian on this forum I can tell you that this concept is completely foreign to most forum members. They don't get that most Belgians care very little about nationality as such. It's convenient because life is okay in Belgium and as a Belgian you can easily travel the world, but no one is particularly proud about being Belgian.
So pretty much everyone started poorly bar Inter, not worried, hopefully gives us a good kick in the ass. What I find hilarious is all these journalists coming out and saying its all over for Juve 
Juve played okay for the most part in that game.
Clearly Juve weren't going to be brilliant because there wasn't enough quality in midfield to move the ball quickly and really open up Udinese.
But Juve still got themselves into more than enough good positions to win the game pretty comfortably.
Mandzukic has to take a lot of stick for that game. He has to score at least one goal in that game given the chances he had. One also has to ask why he wasn't attacking the near post at other times when Juve put some good crosses into the box.
Pogba was also underwhelming, which was okay when he had last season's midfield around him, but there was a lot of pressure on him to take responsibility yesterday and he didn't do enough.
As for the goal that was conceded, it was clearly a poor lapse from Lichtsteiner to be caught ball watching like that. I would also question whether Buffon could have come off his line to get the cross.
Anyway, I wouldn't be reading too much into that game because of the line-up Juve were forced to field. And you get a couple of games like that evry season when you do enough to win and get suckered.
Anything bad happening in the first game of the season always draws an overreation because because whateve bad thing has happened in 100% of the games so far and presumably will happen in 100% of subsequent games as well.
Clearly Juve weren't going to be brilliant because there wasn't enough quality in midfield to move the ball quickly and really open up Udinese.
But Juve still got themselves into more than enough good positions to win the game pretty comfortably.
Mandzukic has to take a lot of stick for that game. He has to score at least one goal in that game given the chances he had. One also has to ask why he wasn't attacking the near post at other times when Juve put some good crosses into the box.
Pogba was also underwhelming, which was okay when he had last season's midfield around him, but there was a lot of pressure on him to take responsibility yesterday and he didn't do enough.
As for the goal that was conceded, it was clearly a poor lapse from Lichtsteiner to be caught ball watching like that. I would also question whether Buffon could have come off his line to get the cross.
Anyway, I wouldn't be reading too much into that game because of the line-up Juve were forced to field. And you get a couple of games like that evry season when you do enough to win and get suckered.
Anything bad happening in the first game of the season always draws an overreation because because whateve bad thing has happened in 100% of the games so far and presumably will happen in 100% of subsequent games as well.
