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woohoooo...hold your horses there girl....
woohoooo...hold your horses there girl....
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SERIE A: Empoli - Juventus (3 Viewers)
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This is bad...to think that we let in 3 goals-against Empoli!! that should make Lippi eat his words
obviously we need some defensive help....our offense cannot carry us to the scudetto, although haven't we scored in every Series A game this year? but when you think that Roma and Milan have allowed 8 goals each, and we have allowed 21?? I just don't think that we will be able to win the scudetto, barring a major feck ups from Roma and Milan.....and I don't think it's like all of a sudden we will start doing really well-we will have good matches, but the instant we face a striker or something who is in form, who knows, maybe more hattricks against us?? It's pretty sad-how many did we conced last year? 29?? hell, we may have conceded that much three weeks from now
obviously we need some defensive help....our offense cannot carry us to the scudetto, although haven't we scored in every Series A game this year? but when you think that Roma and Milan have allowed 8 goals each, and we have allowed 21?? I just don't think that we will be able to win the scudetto, barring a major feck ups from Roma and Milan.....and I don't think it's like all of a sudden we will start doing really well-we will have good matches, but the instant we face a striker or something who is in form, who knows, maybe more hattricks against us?? It's pretty sad-how many did we conced last year? 29?? hell, we may have conceded that much three weeks from now
This game showed that our defence sucks and with a defence like
this dont expect to win the scudetto although we have a strong offence
i was surprised by buffon -he was shaky and like a emateur player , also
juluano and montero are very slow , we will say this till the end of the season and lippi today defend his defenders today i dont know why.
Trezegue saved juve from embaresmant he was fantastic but i was also suprised by nedved form he was normal not like he used to play.
this dont expect to win the scudetto although we have a strong offence
i was surprised by buffon -he was shaky and like a emateur player , also
juluano and montero are very slow , we will say this till the end of the season and lippi today defend his defenders today i dont know why.
Trezegue saved juve from embaresmant he was fantastic but i was also suprised by nedved form he was normal not like he used to play.
I've got to agree. The first goal, though brilliantly taken by Rocchi, was due to poor marking imo. The second one, again because of unprofessional marking. Two defenders went to Di Natale, while Zambrotta, Conte and Tacchinardi stood up protecting Buffon's goal from some invisible man or men. The third goal was brilliance on Rocchi's part, but Milan's defence would never have given him, or the crosser of the ball, that much space. I think that I can go as far as saying that our defence made Empoli's attack look even better than Empoli's attack made our defence look bad.
I have seen the goals and felt that our defense should have done better. In fact to be honest, this season I was SLIGHTLY disappointed with Buffon's performance as it is far from his best, and I was proved right against Empoli. However, this just might be due to the insecure feeling buffon has since our defense is unreliable anyway :groan:
I hope we'll work something out.
I hope we'll work something out.
i concede that the second goal should have been prevented,but we shouldn't discredit empoli for their efforts.sure we weren't at our best where defending was concerned but empoli deserve more than to have their goals attributed to our poor defending.
don't get me wrong though, i do think we defended quite badly.but di natale was tricky and i think they(the juve players) were all stunned by the early goal.plus i'm sure the match was far from what they expected it to be(a thrashing, pherhaps?). empoli played like they knew they could and were not overawed by playing a much larger team.
i know these are not excuses for bad performances but neither should we blast them for goals that weren't entirely their fault.
i am pretty concerned about buffon though,his eccentricity seems to have returned to haunt him.he fumbled more than once during the match and i worry that he will slump into his early juve from again,just like when i started a "Don't Shoot Me" thread some time ago.
don't get me wrong though, i do think we defended quite badly.but di natale was tricky and i think they(the juve players) were all stunned by the early goal.plus i'm sure the match was far from what they expected it to be(a thrashing, pherhaps?). empoli played like they knew they could and were not overawed by playing a much larger team.
i know these are not excuses for bad performances but neither should we blast them for goals that weren't entirely their fault.
i am pretty concerned about buffon though,his eccentricity seems to have returned to haunt him.he fumbled more than once during the match and i worry that he will slump into his early juve from again,just like when i started a "Don't Shoot Me" thread some time ago.
Lippi: “Must reverse our trend”
26 01 2004
Marcello Lippi (La Presse)
The 3 goals against Empoli bring Juventus’ total to 41, but tonight’s draw focuses attention on the 21 goals received by Juventus so far. Lippi knows this and answers “Even though they haven’t influenced us so far, the 21 goals we’ve received are too many. This trend isn’t acceptable and must be reversed. Tonight’s first goal surprised us, but the second one just shouldn’t have happened. It’s not usual for a team like us who usually stays in the lead once we’re there. It wasn’t due to bad defense but to a general attitude. Now we must look ahead and hope we repeat our traditional comeback in the return leg of the championship. It will be a more balanced competition from now on, it’s become harder to win than it was just a little while ago. The smaller teams have improved.”
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You know, to be honest, I'm quite surprised that I find conte playing well. Are we really desperate till even CONTE had to play good for us? No offense to him, I love the guy, but this should tell us something.
26 01 2004
Marcello Lippi (La Presse)
The 3 goals against Empoli bring Juventus’ total to 41, but tonight’s draw focuses attention on the 21 goals received by Juventus so far. Lippi knows this and answers “Even though they haven’t influenced us so far, the 21 goals we’ve received are too many. This trend isn’t acceptable and must be reversed. Tonight’s first goal surprised us, but the second one just shouldn’t have happened. It’s not usual for a team like us who usually stays in the lead once we’re there. It wasn’t due to bad defense but to a general attitude. Now we must look ahead and hope we repeat our traditional comeback in the return leg of the championship. It will be a more balanced competition from now on, it’s become harder to win than it was just a little while ago. The smaller teams have improved.”
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You know, to be honest, I'm quite surprised that I find conte playing well. Are we really desperate till even CONTE had to play good for us? No offense to him, I love the guy, but this should tell us something.