so you thought it would be good to tar us both with the same brush? i have to say it was a rather foolish comment by andy,but i did not realise that being a "celtic man" meant you had to be catholic. i meant that strach is no celtic fan, does not claim to love the club and is not percieved to care as much about teh club as previous managers did.
please do not think that i am so naive as to buy that excuse, it was a clearly directed comment and shows your distinct lack of class
i know that danny mcgrain is perceived as a true legend and rightly so, he is percieved as a celtic man who loves the club despite him being a protestant. I never made that connection but you obviously did:
...I didn't make any connection between Danny McGrain and not being Catholic, that would be you...the guy who doesn't write about religion. Not difficult to pick former legendary players who aren't Catholic, but the reality is McGrain didn't grow up supporting Celtic, as didn't the likes of Dalgleish, Lambert, McLeod, or that muppet Proven you mentioned, who sold his association with Celtic to the highest bidder for filthy lucre - he's no Celtic man...in fact like most of the Lisbon Lions...but the reality is they only became Celtic men after a long association with the club, not before...so why is Strachan different? Another seven championships in a row and the fans might start taking to him.
...it's sadly the perception in the public domain: are you actually prepared to suggest that the majority of people don't make the slightest association of Celtic men being of Irish Catholic decent who support the same club their fathers did, and their fathers...are you telling me the Rangers fans have got it wrong? shocker...and why do Jambo fans call us fenian Bast#rds when we come to Tyncastle, as do many other home fans?..are they getting us mixed up with someone else?
please do not think that i am so naive to buy that excuse, it was a clearly directed comment and shows your distinct lack of class:
...I actualy don't have a particlarly high opinion of myself, so that remark is like water of a ducks ass...
blah blah sell that shit to the tourists do not think for a minute anyone would buy that it was not an attack on what you perceived as a personal slight:
the truth is a pretty powerful defence my lad...and a personal slight directed towards who...every jambo fan or you?...why would I, to use your phrase, tar you with the same brush...?
no, for me a celtic man means a fan, a supporter,someone with the clubs best interests at heart. do not get em wrong being a player or manager does not mean you are a man of any team but teh way you act,conduct yourself and the passion and effort you put in does affect it.
dave macpherson played many games for hearts but is by no means a hearts man, craig levein on the other hand would bleed himself dry for hearts.
whether most celtic fans are catholic or not,i simply implied that since strach is a self-confessed hibee and is viewed as using celtic as a stepping stone that he is looked at with disdain.:
some good points here...and I would prefer it if the perception of the footballing world in relation to Celtic fans (and Rangers fans) was that clear cut and obvious, but if you honestly believe that Celtic fans are not perceived as generally associated with Catholicism then you must live a very insular life. That's why they bless themselves when the tic score and have the cross tattooed on their willie.
To most people, rightly or wrongly, Celtic men are considered to come from Irish Catholic stock, from cradle to the grave...starting late doesn't cut it...a bit like the mafia having to be Italian...it's wrong to do so, but that's the way the jaffa cake bounces
but let us drop this right now,this could go on forever and nobody would come out of it looking good,so lets draw a line under this sorry story and get back to the real issues at hand.........
we can stop now that I've had my say if you wish...