Same Sex Marriage (12 Viewers)

Bjerknes

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++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++"let he who is without sin cast the first stone"?

Right?
Instead we have George Bush pulling the strings.

Religion :rolleyes:
Without religion we would be living in a world without any guidance or laws, basically having a free for all with no respect for human life.

As for the topic at hand, I do not agree with gay marriage at all, however people should have some freedom to do what they want if it doesn't harm others. That is why I oppose gay couples being allowed to adopt children. That is where the line should be drawn.
 

- vOnAm -

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Jul 22, 2004
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Aside from the religous point of view the problem I see with leagalizing gay marriage even though not being allowed to adopt is that if infact Gay is caused by the society and not by birth, it would further make way for an even greater number of gay people. because more n more might be asking themselves " am I gay?"--"should I be gay?"
 

Dust

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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Without religion we would be living in a world without any guidance or laws, basically having a free for all with no respect for human life.
I disagree - it's common for religious people to believe that they hold a monopoly on morals and correct living...the fact is fewer people are religious these days and its perfectly possible to have a decent moral code without any religion in your life. Just as it's not uncommon to have religious people behave in all sorts of hypocritical and vile ways.

having a free for all with no respect for human life.

Isn't that what's going on at the moment anyway?
 

jaecole

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Apr 7, 2005
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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Without religion we would be living in a world without any guidance or laws, basically having a free for all with no respect for human life.
I'm not religious. I haven't been influenced by religion in anyway. Yet I've never beaten anyone, I've never shot anyone, I've never killed anyone, I've never raped anyone and I've never bombed anyone.

You could say religion influenced laws true but who knows what way it would be without religion. I think we'd probably all just be getting high and laughing our asses off all day long.
 
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    ++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++

    As for the topic at hand, I do not agree with gay marriage at all, however people should have some freedom to do what they want if it doesn't harm others. That is why I oppose gay couples being allowed to adopt children. That is where the line should be drawn.
    A gay couple adopting a child is not going to harm you. I think that if they fought this much to be able to legally adopt children theyre not gonna screw up

    But I also think that is gonna be somehow strange for the kids because its like you have two moms and which one is your mom and your dad? It probably wont make sense for a three year old
     

    swag

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    I think everyone has a default religion. It just might not be a classic, world-renowned one (America, for example, is littered with one-off, arguably cult-like, "God is never angry and domineering, and Jesus is my best buddy" religious movements of questionable origins). It might not be any single religion. It may be a whole different definition of god, or gods, or creators -- or even a lack thereof. And it comes in varying intensities.

    But humans have been programmed for personal metaphysical questions about their place in the world, and it's been that way since the beginning of history. It's no coincidence that ancient cultures and civilizations organically developed religious beliefs and practices very similar to each other in nature, despite the fact they evolved thousands of miles from each other.

    So IMO, anyone who gets self-righteous with anyone about they have religion and someone else doesn't smacks of elitist, narrow-minded self-centeredness. Away with you...

    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
    I'm not religious. I haven't been influenced by religion in anyway. Yet I've never beaten anyone, I've never shot anyone, I've never killed anyone, I've never raped anyone and I've never bombed anyone.

    You could say religion influenced laws true but who knows what way it would be without religion. I think we'd probably all just be getting high and laughing our asses off all day long.
     
    Feb 26, 2005
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    i agree that God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. And on the subject of same sex marriage, it is my considered opinion that any man who says that it is only another man's ass that can get him excited, needs to have his head examined by a team of specialised psychiatrists. sadly, this would lead to these attention-hungry individuals depriving persons with real problems of badly needed help.
     

    Vinman

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    ++ [ originally posted by Dust ] ++
    What about gay chimpanzee marriage?

    Is that allowed?

    Gayness occurs frequently in the animal kingdom. I'm sure two fudge-packing chimps would want the same banana rights as everyone else in the jungle.
    Leave the chimpanzees alone !!!!!!



    Has anyone here ACTUALLY saw gayness in the animal kingdom ???


    .....................and enjoyed it ??!!! :dielaugh:
     

    Zé Tahir

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    ++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++
    i agree that God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. And on the subject of same sex marriage, it is my considered opinion that any man who says that it is only another man's ass that can get him excited, needs to have his head examined by a team of specialised psychiatrists. sadly, this would lead to these attention-hungry individuals depriving persons with real problems of badly needed help.
    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     

    Zé Tahir

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    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++


    I'm not religious. I haven't been influenced by religion in anyway. Yet I've never beaten anyone, I've never shot anyone, I've never killed anyone, I've never raped anyone and I've never bombed anyone.

    You could say religion influenced laws true but who knows what way it would be without religion. I think we'd probably all just be getting high and laughing our asses off all day long.
    riiight, and we would leave the development of Earth to monkeys. Maybe they could invent the wheel, and perhaps somewhere down the line find the cure to AIDS :confused:
     

    jaecole

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    ++ [ originally posted by iBianconeri ] ++


    riiight, and we would leave the development of Earth to monkeys. Maybe they could invent the wheel, and perhaps somewhere down the line find the cure to AIDS :confused:
    Ever smoked weed? Believe it or not kid weed isn't just like they tell you at school. It's not what your government tell you it is. Ive smoked weed many times and been able to do assignments, papers, research, sport and more. If that is your logic then why arent we still without technology when alcohol is illegal, a far worse drug in every single way.

    Since this is a god thread, isnt weed a natural substance? Did god accidently put weed in his perfect world? I dont think God makes mistakes. Does banning 'nature' since you were so found of it earlier in the gay discussion not seem alittle off?
     

    Zé Tahir

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    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++


    Ever smoked weed? Believe it or not kid weed isn't just like they tell you at school. It's not what your government tell you it is. Ive smoked weed many times and been able to do assignments, papers, research, sport and more. If that is your logic then why arent we still without technology when alcohol is illegal, a far worse drug in every single way.

    Since this is a god thread, isnt weed a natural substance? Did god accidently put weed in his perfect world? I dont think God makes mistakes. Does banning 'nature' since you were so found of it earlier in the gay discussion not seem alittle off?

    Yes FATHER i have smoked weed, and i will never do it again. And my original point was to say that if we all just sat and smoked weed all day we wouldn't be doing anything productive, now would we?! Also, i'm really happy you can do all these things while you're high, what a big FEAT! *applause*, I do all those things w/out getting high. Also, i'm not supporting alcohol either! so that's that. Last point, As u know marijuana has medicinal uses as well, so it wasn't created by mistake by God. Believe it or not, it can be used by ppl who don't do sports, write papers, or research, but by ppl who are dying or suffering from various deceases where Marijuana can help them.
     

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