Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (105 Viewers)

Jul 7, 2018
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I mean at least "Biden is warmonger" and "US intelligence is stoopid" people would shut a fuck up for a minute. US admin was on point all along, and IMO they are doing everything right. It's cunts in the EU who should be tarred and feathered, not US admin.

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Why the fuck anyone except Russia wants it?
Aside from the fact the Ukraine is an important geopolitical country and the U.S has a “surprising” interest for conflicts (Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, etc) , the reaction of every western leader has been very, very soft. Also, I say EVERY party, which means Russia is included.
 

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Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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I mean at least "Biden is warmonger" and "US intelligence is stoopid" people would shut a fuck up for a minute. US admin was on point all along, and IMO they are doing everything right. It's cunts in the EU who should be tarred and feathered, not US admin.

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Why the fuck anyone except Russia wants it?
Yeah mind boggling that some people here were saying its the US that was rooting for a war and that Russia had nothing to win out of it.

Recognizing the republics is only the first step. Saying Ukraine is an invention from Lenin confirms it.

Hopefully EU does something for you guys.
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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Aside from the fact the Ukraine is an important geopolitical country and the U.S has a “surprising” interest for conflicts (Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, etc) , the reaction of every western leader has been very, very soft. Also, I say EVERY party, which means Russia is included.
Again with US. What are you talking about? The US evacuated its embassy 1000 km from the current front line. What the hell can they do more to show people like you that they have nothing to do with that? Jesus Christ, Russia is being doing this shit for ages, it's a 9-year war already, but it's still "whataboutusa".

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Yeah mind boggling that some people here were saying its the US that was rooting for a war and that Russia had nothing to win out of it.

Recognizing the republics is only the first step. Saying Ukraine is an invention from Lenin confirms it.

Hopefully EU does something for you guys.
I won't hold my breath about EU tbh. Macron is all talk, German industry needs Russian gas, don't get me started about the likes of Italy (ffs Agnielli, move Juve out of that circus country) or Hungary. We have Eastern European on our side, and big thank them for that, I guess because they still remember what it's like to have Russian boots in your country. And looks like we have the greatest country on Earth and the USA on our side. The greatest country on Earth is Canada obviously)) Just joking, love both USA and Canada, had plans to visit Alberta and Manitoba this year, but looks like Russian cunts threw a wrench in these plans.
 
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Cerval

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Aside from the fact the Ukraine is an important geopolitical country and the U.S has a “surprising” interest for conflicts (Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, etc) , the reaction of every western leader has been very, very soft. Also, I say EVERY party, which means Russia is included.
Because in the Middle East they meddled in most countries to assert their geopolitical interest and for the resources they could get.

In Europe most of the countries are allies and losing an ally in Ukraine weaken the US and the EU
 
Jul 7, 2018
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Because in the Middle East they meddled in most countries to assert their geopolitical interest and for the resources they could get.

In Europe most of the countries are allies and losing an ally in Ukraine weaken the US and the EU
So why are they so soft? Russia should had been already sanctioned and Ukraine supported with military capabilities. It is almost as if they were giving green light to Russia to partially invade Ukraine. They are setting a terrible precedent for future conflicts (like Taiwan-China). And, as we saw with Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea and Cuba, sanctions are useless by themselves. I’m not saying that they should kill Putin as they did with Soleimani, but it should be clear that an invasion will have a huge cost for the Russian army. At this moment, it seems that Russia invading Ukraine will be quick and effective.

What I think is that Russia will partially invade and the US will sell weapons to Ukraine. The EU will be happy that is only a partial invasion and will stay put, maybe giving some economic relief to Ukraine.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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So why are they so soft? Russia should had been already sanctioned and Ukraine supported with military capabilities. It is almost as if they were giving green light to Russia to partially invade Ukraine. They are setting a terrible precedent for future conflicts (like Taiwan-China). And, as we saw with Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea and Cuba, sanctions are useless by themselves. I’m not saying that they should kill Putin as they did with Soleimani, but it should be clear that an invasion will have a huge cost for the Russian army. At this moment, it seems that Russia invading Ukraine will be quick and effective.

What I think is that Russia will partially invade and the US will sell weapons to Ukraine. The EU will be happy that is only a partial invasion and will stay put, maybe giving some economic relief to Ukraine.
I think Putin wants to invade Ukraine and create a puppet state like Belarus.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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So why are they so soft? Russia should had been already sanctioned and Ukraine supported with military capabilities. It is almost as if they were giving green light to Russia to partially invade Ukraine. They are setting a terrible precedent for future conflicts (like Taiwan-China). And, as we saw with Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea and Cuba, sanctions are useless by themselves. I’m not saying that they should kill Putin as they did with Soleimani, but it should be clear that an invasion will have a huge cost for the Russian army. At this moment, it seems that Russia invading Ukraine will be quick and effective.

What I think is that Russia will partially invade and the US will sell weapons to Ukraine. The EU will be happy that is only a partial invasion and will stay put, maybe giving some economic relief to Ukraine.
Because the west engaging in a full scale war in the times of nuclear energy is too dangerous maybe. The moment other countries help Ukraine, it could escalate anytime from chemical warfare to anything even worse. Thats probably why they don't risk it and will go for economic sanctions, the West has gotten soft. Russia has all the leverage considering this. Just my opinion.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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Russian army was deployed in Donbass since 2014, idk why europeans and americans are so surprised of what Vlad is doing, imbeciles used BUK to destroy ukrainian aircrafts but instead they have killed poor innocent people because you don't give a granade to monkeys and then expect them to know how to treat it
 
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X Æ A-12

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Russian army was deployed in Donbass since 2014, idk why europeans and americans are so surprised of what Vlad is doing, imbeciles used BUK to destroy ukrainian aircrafts but instead they have killed poor innocent people because you don't give a granade to monkeys and then expect them to know how to treat it
You think he takes all of Ukraine?
 

X Æ A-12

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Of course not, he is obsessed with the idea that the NATO bases will be near the borders of Russia and and he does everything to prevent this from happening
So building up this massive army around Ukraine is just intimidation? He threatens war against all of Ukraine so that when he reinforces Donbas, intimidates Ukraine into not joining NATO the west will gladly accept that and feel like they've avoided war?

In esscence, Putin walks away with what he wants, without war, and the west is glad to take that deal?
 
Mar 9, 2006
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So building up this massive army around Ukraine is just intimidation? He threatens war against all of Ukraine so that when he reinforces Donbas, intimidates Ukraine into not joining NATO the west will gladly accept that and feel like they've avoided war?

In esscence, Putin walks away with what he wants, without war, and the west is glad to take that deal?
Yes, they've did the same with South Ossetia - until Saakashvili didn't try to get it back Russian army was doing nothing, but when Georgian army have tried to take it back then Russian army was "helping" Ossetians to fight off Georgians. Same story with DNR/LNR until Zelensky won't move his troops Russian army will be stationed and do nothing
 
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Post Ironic

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What’s with Tucker Carlson slobbering all over Putin’s dick for the last month? Had no idea he was such a knob jockey for the Russkie tyrant. Dude says he’s cheering for Russia and that the US should be supporting a Russian invasion. I mean, wat? :lol:
 

s4tch

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What’s with Tucker Carlson slobbering all over Putin’s dick for the last month? Had no idea he was such a knob jockey for the Russkie tyrant. Dude says he’s cheering for Russia and that the US should be supporting a Russian invasion. I mean, wat? :lol:
i bet he's being paid by russians (and some others). a couple of months ago he came to hungary for a tour, he was fled around the country by a military helicopter, offered the best accommodation in the best hotels, treated like a star by orbán and co (and of course the state owned media) and had some nice words about the current hungarian regime. he's just smartly riding a populist wave which pays him very well.

i mean look at this: https://hungarytoday.hu/tucker-carl...rian-documentary-viktor-orban-prime-minister/ he made a "docu" on hungary which miraculously echoes the same agenda that the state owned hungarian media has been pushing for years.
 

Post Ironic

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i bet he's being paid by russians (and some others). a couple of months ago he came to hungary for a tour, he was fled around the country by a military helicopter, offered the best accommodation in the best hotels, treated like a star by orbán and co (and of course the state owned media) and had some nice words about the current hungarian regime. he's just smartly riding a populist wave which pays him very well.
‘Murican media has really turned into a shit sandwich. Fox News and CNN competing to see who can be more batshit crazy. What’s even more obscene is that each have diehard backers and guys like Tucker are treated like celebrities by their groupies.

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I hate this fucktard so much, and everyone else like her.

She’s been watching Tucker Carlson. :lol2:
 

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