Premier League 2023-24 (46 Viewers)
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I think Southgate mistakenly thinks he’s standing by him this way when in reality he is just burning him more by serving him up on a plate like this.
What’s even more remarkable is that Maguire refused to go to Westham where he could have rebuilt his brand or at least become just another somewhat decent defender and get out of this spot light.
it’s as if Maguire is a masochist and Southgate is a sadist
What’s even more remarkable is that Maguire refused to go to Westham where he could have rebuilt his brand or at least become just another somewhat decent defender and get out of this spot light.
it’s as if Maguire is a masochist and Southgate is a sadist
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-66805951
Even his mum had to come out and defend him.
Even his mum had to come out and defend him.
He's become a meme. Like I said in the other thread, I respect him a lot for how he deals with it.
It's simply that he shouldn't be more than 5th or 6th choice for England and he should be at a club like West Ham. Fans realise he doesn't really have a place in elite football because of the mistakes, but the fact he gets on with it and carries on through bloody-mindedness is simply impressive.
Southgate is too loyal and it could be to his detriment. This is a guy who knows what it's like to deal with horrible (and frankly ridiculous) abuse and I think it has affected him ever since, so maybe there is an element of rallying around Maguire because of that.
It's simply that he shouldn't be more than 5th or 6th choice for England and he should be at a club like West Ham. Fans realise he doesn't really have a place in elite football because of the mistakes, but the fact he gets on with it and carries on through bloody-mindedness is simply impressive.
Southgate is too loyal and it could be to his detriment. This is a guy who knows what it's like to deal with horrible (and frankly ridiculous) abuse and I think it has affected him ever since, so maybe there is an element of rallying around Maguire because of that.
But Southgate is actively hurting Maguire.
His intentions might be good, I honestly don't doubt they are. But Maguire's form has been nothing short of horrendous the past few years. Give the man a little break from international duty to catch his breath. The same goes for earlier managers at United by the way. Had they dropped Maguire earlier he'd have recovered much sooner. I don't think Maguire is a top level defender. He will always be prone to errors. But he could have been decent had his managers not constantly exposed him to more pressure than he could handle at the time.
as much fun it is to read, i have very strong tuz/jj vibes here. everyone has his favorite scapegoat, be it ten hag, onana, martial, some other players, while for me it seems like the club is just operating in a terrible way
ten hag did a pretty good job at ajax, didn't he. i think he's competent. the club is shite though since ferguson left them. they just forgot what they were and how they managed to get it working. they can (and will) replace ten hag, he's not doing a good job, but it's more about the state of the club itself
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ten hag did a pretty good job at ajax, didn't he. i think he's competent. the club is shite though since ferguson left them. they just forgot what they were and how they managed to get it working. they can (and will) replace ten hag, he's not doing a good job, but it's more about the state of the club itself
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