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Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Go find the audio recording

If that's not enough to make you think

"Hmmm. Maybe this is a bad idea!" Then I have nothing left to say lmao

I'm all for false accusers getting thrown in jail for 20 years but there's a fucking recording what sounds like textbook rape

Being cleared of rape because "key witness(es)" dropped out doesn't mean you're innocent, it just means they couldn't chase a prosecution.

Basically, as i said before, the girlfriend is a hold digger and a victim. She'd rather put up with this to keep a millionaire lifestyle. Doesn't make Greenwood less of a cunt.
This is what I find troubling, someone willing to get 'abused' and do things against your will just to be financially secure? no thats fucked up and shes a stupid cunt for it if that's her intentions

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In light of the audio recording & fans all over the globe threatening to boycott United if they kept him, this may be the worst suggestion in the history of suggestions.
and yet we signed Adrian Mutu who was on drugs and accused of beating his own wife in 2003... Just sayin'
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Can somebody with twitter or tiktok find the audio recording

It's even better when you hear it. This is the most baffling hill to die on.

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This is what I find troubling, someone willing to get 'abused' and do things against your will just to be financially secure? no thats fucked up and shes a stupid cunt for it if that's her intentions

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and yet we signed Adrian Mutu who was on drugs and accused of beating his own wife in 2003... Just sayin'

Right so let's cap off a bad descision by hiring a man on audio raping his girlfriend. Outstanding suggestion.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,061
Can somebody with twitter or tiktok find the audio recording

It's even better when you hear it. This is the most baffling hill to die on.

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Right so let's cap off a bad descision by hiring a man on audio raping his girlfriend. Outstanding suggestion.
I dont need to listen to the recording. I'm going on purely on the Courts and Man utd's official statement, when even man utd came out and announced that he has done no wrong, so whos wrong here?

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This is a new low, choosing to die on the hill of advocating for a rapist.
well man utd don't seem to think he's a rapist...
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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It was merely a suggestion, you make it sound like im holding the club to ransom to sign him, it would be nice if actually some of you would stop putting words into my mouth.
Fuck berardi get Mason greenwood. Manure are letting him go
I can recall for a few days now you talking about him. This was a suggestion, despite Berardi consistently having numbers over his career that Greenwood could dream of.

Tbh I don't quite know what the fuss is about. The rape charges were dropped, he's still with the woman and they have a child together. That aside he's a very talented player tbh
Thing is he's actually with that girl who dropped the charges a while ago and have a kid together. The whole thing seems weird, but he's a very talented player, I quite like him tbh
It bemuses me how a woman would want to remain in a relationship with someone, even have a child with them if he's as bad as he's made out to be.
And they have a child together. Seems awfully strange for someone to claim abuse and attempted rape but still happily with that person to the point you're starting a family together, suddenly drops the charges too.
The thing is man utd were strongly considering reintergrating him back into the team, it seems that public backlash cause man utd to think otherwise, but you'd think if they took as long as they did with their own internal investigation that there was some element at least that Mason Greenwood is not as guilty as he's made out to be.
As @Seven pointed out in the official statement and likewise as I pointed out earlier that man utd were seriously considering reintergrating him back into the team because they don't seem to think he's guilty of the charges, only a public backlash that made man utd think twice, but in all honesty in the eyes of the law he is innocent as he was never found guilty. I can only base my judgement on that without going into details of the evidence on show. Remember not all of the evidence was made to public domain so we don't really know but in a way I feel its wrong to condemn someone who is deemed innocent in the eyes of the law.

On this basis I see him as an opportunity signing given how talented he is. Either way it would be wrong for his footballing career to be over after this episode, but I highly doubt he will play for another British team.
It was merely a suggestion, you make it sound like im holding the club to ransom to sign him, it would be nice if actually some of you would stop putting words into my mouth.
This is not. This is a concious and deliberate effort to defend him and excuse him.

I'm going to give you some unsolicited advice here. You don't know me, you don't have to take it, but it's ok to admit that you were wrong about something. You don't have to double down, that just makes it worse for yourself. No one's going to give you shit for it, and if they do then fuck them.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,832
Can somebody with twitter or tiktok find the audio recording

It's even better when you hear it. This is the most baffling hill to die on.

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Right so let's cap off a bad descision by hiring a man on audio raping his girlfriend. Outstanding suggestion.
I just found it, hold on. I had to look it up because I knew nothing about any of this.

 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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I can recall for a few days now you talking about him. This was a suggestion, despite Berardi consistently having numbers over his career that Greenwood could dream of.








This is not. This is a concious and deliberate effort to defend him and excuse him.

I'm going to give you some unsolicited advice here. You don't know me, you don't have to take it, but it's ok to admit that you were wrong about something. You don't have to double down, that just makes it worse for yourself. No one's going to give you shit for it, and if they do then fuck them.
you like many are going by some transcript of an audio to claim he is a rapist.

Man utd and the courts think otherwise for whatever reason and based on the evidence they have in both their investigations, it's not about me or you being wrong, I'm looking at the facts here, if you're so certain of his guilt based on this then can I ask you why Man utd have come out to defend his innocence in their statement? It seems to me they're letting him go in fear of a public backlash rather than thinking that he's guilty of his crimes given how long their internal investigation took to conclude, and yes they'd have all the available evidence to analyse including this audio.

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Lmao

"I don't need to listen to the recording"

Okay I'm done. I hope you never have a daughter
The transcript was enough thanks. But like I said in all seriousness why are man utd coming out defending his actions, they will have seen and heard everything in their own investigations.
 
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Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Ah fuck it I'll bite

"Why were man United going to keep him"

Because they're a big business. Their employee worth tens of millions of pounds was cleared in the courts. They don't give two shits about morals they care about balance sheets. Now they have to lose a prospect for pennies.


"Oh so he is innocent then!"

Again, your gold digging partner deciding not to prosecute you doesn't mean you're fucking innocent. NOBODY is trying to say that recording is out of context or faked, but it's not enough to convict him. He's literally in the audio RAPING her.

If I shoot somebody on the street & you're the only person who can place me there and you decide you'd be better off saying nothing, chances are I am not getting prosecuted. Am I innocent?

Until somebody comes out with proof that the recording is fake news, he's just a millionaire who got away with rape.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Ah fuck it I'll bite

"Why were man United going to keep him"

Because they're a big business. Their employee worth tens of millions of pounds was cleared in the courts. They don't give two shits about morals they care about balance sheets. Now they have to lose a prospect for pennies.


"Oh so he is innocent then!"

Again, your gold digging partner deciding not to prosecute you doesn't mean you're fucking innocent. NOBODY is trying to say that recording is out of context or faked, but it's not enough to convict him. He's literally in the audio RAPING her.

If I shoot somebody on the street & you're the only person who can place me there and you decide you'd be better off saying nothing, chances are I am not getting prosecuted. Am I innocent?

Until somebody comes out with proof that the recording is fake news, he's just a millionaire who got away with rape.
Ok I get the first part and I agree, but what I'm asking is if man utd have already decided to let him go for pennies/free on the back of what seems influenced by a public back lash but at the same time defended his actions and innocence in the charges brought against him, why even mention it if the evidence is as clear and apparent as it supposedly is. I don't see what benefits man utd get from even stating that, it wasn't necessary but yet they deemed it so off the back of their own investigation.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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You keep saying shit like "supposedly"

It's a fucking recording bro that nobody is claiming is fake.

You seem to not understand that being cleared of a charge doesn't mean you're innocent it means they don't have enough to go forward with the case.

If you listen to the audio which AGAIN nobody is claiming to be faked, it's the literal textbook definition of a fucking rape. I did not write the countries laws.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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You keep saying shit like "supposedly"

It's a fucking recording bro that nobody is claiming is fake.

You seem to not understand that being cleared of a charge doesn't mean you're innocent it means they don't have enough to go forward with the case.

If you listen to the audio which AGAIN nobody I'd claiming to be faked, it's the literal textbook definition of a fucking rape. I did not write the countries laws.
Well I'm saying supposedly because like I keep reiterating Man utd in their own investigation which took months to conclude don't seem to share your sentiment. I'm not claiming the audio is fake, but does that mean to say off the back of Man utd's official statement that they think otherwise? Like I said there's contradictions that don't add up, I get what you're saying about his girlfriend being a gold digger or so you believe but again that won't have influenced the wording behind Man utd's statement.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Ok I get the first part and I agree, but what I'm asking is if man utd have already decided to let him go for pennies/free on the back of what seems influenced by a public back lash but at the same time defended his actions and innocence in the charges brought against him, why even mention it if the evidence is as clear and apparent as it supposedly is. I don't see what benefits man utd get from even stating that, it wasn't necessary but yet they deemed it so off the back of their own investigation.
Why does it matter at all what Manchester United do? Why do you keep falling back on that?

@Pirlo's Beard already shot down the court decision. Or do you for some reason need examples of other rich people/athletes getting away with things?
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Why does it matter at all what Manchester United do? Why do you keep falling back on that?

@Pirlo's Beard already shot down the court decision. Or do you for some reason need examples of other rich people/athletes getting away with things?
of course it matters! they say he's innocent of the charges, you say otherwise. The fact is they carried out their own independent investigation which has lead to their own conclusion as highlighted in their statement.

Somehow you have debunked the case over an audio recording, man utd have spent months analysing the evidence and after months of investigating say otherwise.
 
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