Paul Pogba (105 Viewers)
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Yeah. I mean Arsenal Ramsey of the last two years was vastly better than this incarnation of Pogba. Far more productive on goals, assists, chances created, etc. Worked far harder. Tracked back harder. There isn’t really an argument that this Pogba is better than that Ramsey. Not in terms of performances in the pitch. And for reference, we bought that Ramseybat 29, Pogba is 28.
He’s turned to shit here, and his injury problems have gotten even worse... but I just don’t see an injury prone player like Pogba, who has performed far worse these past two years for ManU than Ramsey did in the two years prior to our purchase being the answer as a ~60 mil transfer on 25-30mil gross wages. That seems like an insane move to me with possibly disastrous consequences. Add in him being 28, lazy, with poor work ethic, and I don’t really see a win there.
He’s turned to shit here, and his injury problems have gotten even worse... but I just don’t see an injury prone player like Pogba, who has performed far worse these past two years for ManU than Ramsey did in the two years prior to our purchase being the answer as a ~60 mil transfer on 25-30mil gross wages. That seems like an insane move to me with possibly disastrous consequences. Add in him being 28, lazy, with poor work ethic, and I don’t really see a win there.
When I evaluate a performance of a midfielder I don't simply look at the attacking numbers. At United Pogba has played in a double pivot for the past couple of seasons. He's been used as a controlling midfielder who is tasked of building play from deeper positions. Also I seriously doubt that any coach would pick that Ramsey over this Pogba. Imo the two aren't on the same level at all, never have been.
As I've previously said I understand the worries about the financial aspect of any potential deal.
As I've previously said I understand the worries about the financial aspect of any potential deal.
I don’t evaluate only numbers hence the reason I talk about tracking back and work put in, Pogba is lazy as shit. He neglects his defensive responsibilities constantly, which would be great in a team like ours that has struggled defensively for two years. Lol
Coaches would pick Pogba for his upside and potential return to greatness, but it has nothing to do with his past two years. He’s been complete rubbish, and far worse than 2017-2019 Ramsey was at Arsenal. Or 2016 Euros Ramsey when he was team of the tournament and leading assist man. He had some brilliant years, far superior to current Pogba.
ManU hasn’t lost a single match they have played without the dabbing doofus this year. And that’s a major reason they’re in 2nd place in the table. Pogba has contributed a big fat zilch.
Coaches would pick Pogba for his upside and potential return to greatness, but it has nothing to do with his past two years. He’s been complete rubbish, and far worse than 2017-2019 Ramsey was at Arsenal. Or 2016 Euros Ramsey when he was team of the tournament and leading assist man. He had some brilliant years, far superior to current Pogba.
ManU hasn’t lost a single match they have played without the dabbing doofus this year. And that’s a major reason they’re in 2nd place in the table. Pogba has contributed a big fat zilch.
Don't agree. They would pick him because he is the better player between the two. Ramsey would not start over Pogba at United but Pogba would start over Ramsey at Juve, Ramsey would not start over Pogba for France but Pogba would start over Ramsey for Wales. That statement is true for every single season since Pogba broke through at Juve. I feel that many of the negative narratives around Pogba are very much overblown for some reason. I also feel we won't get far here as mr dab seems to make your maple syrup boil. Don't blame you though, mr dab seems to have that effect on quite a few.
Yeah. We disagree. Ramsey at Wales is better than anything we’ve seen from Pogba at club level post-Juve. He doesn’t make my “maple syrup boil”, he’s just an overrated turd, who’s nowhere near as good as some make him out to be. All the talent in the world to be a great, but instead he plays like a lazy, no work ethic pos, and consequently looks more Rabiot level.
Why are we discussing Pogba yet one more time? 
The club is looking for way to slash down the wage bill, not increase it.
De Paul/Pellegrini/Locatelli/Aouar are the names to be discussed, not Pogba.
The club is looking for way to slash down the wage bill, not increase it.De Paul/Pellegrini/Locatelli/Aouar are the names to be discussed, not Pogba.
