Official Azzurri (Italy) Euro 2008 Thread (30 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Look, the whole purpose of national teams is to have players who are from the said nation and have supporters who are from the said nation. What is the point of this tournament if everybody is going to be supporting different nations than the one they're from? It doesn't make any sense and defeats the whole purpose of the event.

Scenario: Turkey vs. Italy in the Euros


"Woo-hoo! My nation Italy is better than yours!"

"Hey, shut up, Turkey is a great nation too, you know."

Yeah man, I know, born and raised in Istanbul, but GO AZZURRI!

Do you know what's annoying?

Agon, AhMeD, Alltagsheld, Azzurri7, Bozi, CORVETTE, Cronios, DelpieroForLife, Flieeekke, ForzaDelPiero10, ghoppa, goggo, gray, Holdon, juve red, Juve Revolution, juve88, Juventino#16, Juventino_NJ, juventus1897, juverm, juve_baby, LexeMan, Loppan, MaNcIn3tt0_14, Marko, marko serbia, mk_khan, mondo1, narchi, Omair, Primadonna, Roman, salman, Señor Canardo, SoulSiick, Stripper, Suhail, swag, The Gigolo, Trigger, Triviggy, Turk_Bianconero, vSnoop, will luvs juve, xcen3x

Out of this long list maybe two are Italians.

I was looking at that list the other day and thought it was pretty annoying as well.

Although, it must be said that Sarah's got family heritage in Italy and has spent some time there. I think she has citizenship, too, if I'm not mistaken. So she's cool.

Effort? Not at all, I copied the list from the other thread


Must one be Italian to support the Azzurri? I am not setting any rules here, you go support whoever you want for all I care but I ain't supporting a country that is not mine. At the same time when I don't like the fact that there are many Turkish, Lebanese, Iranian, etc. Azzurri fan boys, I will do my best to provoke and I have all the right to do that as this forum is not an Azzurri forum.

Very true. This isn't an Azzurri forum, even people want it to be.

Can I touch you? The Italian half, that is.

:rofl2:

I am only supporting Italy because I have bet on them to win.

I would never consider myself an Azzurri fan and, unlike many, I actually go and watch my own national side play.

Good man!

 

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[Daria_Uruguay]

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Do you have the Uruguayan national anthem?

Are you being ironic?

If you dont, of course I have the Uruguayan national anthem, I know it, more than have it... is my national anthem, and starts with Orientales la patria o la tumba libertad o con gloria morir es el voto que el alma pronuncia y que heroicos sabremos cumplir es el voto que el alma pronuncia y que heroicos sabremos cumplir que sabremos cumplir
Hope you know spanish
By the way I will be singing it at the stadium next week end when Uruguay plays with Venezuela for the qualis to 2010 :xfinger:

On the other hand I love Italy for many reasons, more important is my grandparents have borned there...

For those that dont like that the forum has become Azzurro... I think is totally logical that people that usually support Juve support Italy too since many Juve players and Juve legends plays there and have done History with the national team. Juve is the team that has provided more players to Italy, and more world champions.
Juve has always been important for the national team, and is logical that as Juve fans they support Juve guys playing there

 

[Bjerknes]

I totally agree, I share the same thing but I actually have a local team that I cheer for in Lebanon and when I lived there I used to go to all their matches but the league is not professional, almost all the players have another job aside their football team. My team even used to get the jerseys of Saint Etienne's previous season, so you can imagine how low the football level we are talking about is. But when it comes to country it is a total different story.

Yeah, exactly.

I hate it when people use that stupid argument against us. They fail to see the point in all this.

 

[Bjerknes]

Who would you support if Uruguay play Italy at the World Cup final?

Uruguay has a great history in the game FFS.

 

[Snoop]

but you cheered for African teams in world cup no?

 

[Bjerknes]

The whole point of International football loses its meaning if any person from any country would cheer for any team.

Exactly.


And why on earth would a Uruguayan prefer Italy over Uruguay?

Isn't that like an Italian preferring Brazil?

 

[Bjerknes]

but you cheered for African teams in world cup no?

Wanting someone to win and supporting someone are two different things. You can cheer on a nation if you placed money on it, doesn't mean you support them through and through.

 

[sallyinzaghi]

The malaysian league is having its biggest football scandal and funnily enough I think my team will be probably be cleared and our greatest rival are in deep shit.

What a contrast ..

 

[juventus1897]

Do you know what's annoying?

Agon, AhMeD, Alltagsheld, Azzurri7, Bozi, CORVETTE, Cronios, DelpieroForLife, Flieeekke, ForzaDelPiero10, ghoppa, goggo, gray, Holdon, juve red, Juve Revolution, juve88, Juventino#16, Juventino_NJ, juventus1897, juverm, juve_baby, LexeMan, Loppan, MaNcIn3tt0_14, Marko, marko serbia, mk_khan, mondo1, narchi, Omair, Primadonna, Roman, salman, Señor Canardo, SoulSiick, Stripper, Suhail, swag, The Gigolo, Trigger, Triviggy, Turk_Bianconero, vSnoop, will luvs juve, xcen3x

Out of this long list maybe two are Italians.

How you can you be so judgemental without even knowing anyone ? So i guess that is 3 out of that long list cause I am italian. Forza Azzurri

Make that 4. Forza Italia!!

 

[juventus1897]

The whole point of International football loses its meaning if any person from any country would cheer for any team.

They're not cheering for ANY team, they're cheering for ITALIA, greatest team in the world!!

By the way, there are only 16 teams playing in the EURO, so alot of people won't have their country present to cheer for. Everybody picks a favorite tho. Seems only natural that Juve supporters would lean towards Italy in that case.

 

[Daria_Uruguay]

Who would you support if Uruguay play Italy at the World Cup final?

I can tell you what happened when Uruguay played against Italy in the 90 World Cup... I was 9, my cousin 12... we were both crying because Uruguay had lost and my grandmother was doing peperonatta in the kitchen to celebrate Italy´s victory while my grandfather was singing some traditional italian song

Having roots like that is impossible not to become attached with Italy s traditions and of course calcio is one of it

But totally understand your concern about people in your country supporting Italy instead of their nationals team. In any case I think if Lebanon has a very good national team that will probably dont happen. And I dont think none of them feel it as an italian does.
On other hand globalization has done a great impact in what we used to call nationality... Is a deep debate ...

Just I dont know, please try not to be agressive in the comments, and respect those that feels Italy as their own team

Anyway good debate

 

[Snoop]

Not the same thing, Snoop. Everybody has a country, but for instance, the United States did not have a truly professional football league when I became a fan of football.

Everybody has a national team but not everybody has their own league. Don't confuse club with country.

Like I said, you are only mixing nationalism with sport, if your country was the worst football team in the world, you would go and cheer for one of those great national teams. The Turkey example you gave is the same way, doesn't make sense again, because we are talking football here, and not politics or whose nation is better or not.

Andy, you and Jack are mixing those who like Italian football including the league and the national team, and to those who dream to be Italian, with Italian signatures, Italian flags on their avatar, or even that fool who asked the Italian national team anthem. Not all the cases are the same things.

I totally agree, I share the same thing but I actually have a local team that I cheer for in Lebanon and when I lived there I used to go to all their matches but the league is not professional, almost all the players have another job aside their football team. My team even used to get the jerseys of Saint Etienne's previous season, so you can imagine how low the football level we are talking about is. But when it comes to country it is a total different story.

Well the same can be said about Lebanon, they have bad football team, and maybe they will never make the world cup. Just like you picked Juve because that local team is weak and un professional, so why not pick another good NT to cheer for? I am not telling you to become an Italian (or any other Nation's citizen), you probably cheer/ have sympathy to some teams, but you are just denying it to win this argument. I know you have sympathy to African national teams, or others you mentioned before (when you said you like their playing style).

And also, it's the level of being a fan makes this argument different, like I said, those who support Italy just because of their playing style (league and players) is so different than those who dreams to be Italian, or try hard to speak Italian, Italians flags in their avatar, signature etc.. yes! That's is retarded, but you can't put all of them in one side of your argument..

 

[juventus1897]

What are you doing in Germany again?

I'm studying, thanks for asking. You don't know me so don't pretend like you do and stop questioning my nationality. Not all italians live in Italy you know? Please stop talking out of your ass, I have no respect for you.

 

[Snoop]

Wanting someone to win and supporting someone are two different things. You can cheer on a nation if you placed money on it, doesn't mean you support them through and through.

I wanted them to do good but I wasn't supporting them in any way.

I don't know what is the difference between the two exactly (I see it the same way), same things can be said about me I guess, I didn't watch any of Italy's qualifying games, I just watch them on tournaments, I love watching them on tournaments and always want them to win, and it sucks for me to see them lose. Well you name the category I belong (Supporter or "like to see them do good"?).

Deny as much as you want, in the end, Juventus is an Italian team, they represent Torino (the city) in Italy, and Italians when they play in Europe, you see the Italian flags on the stands and all, you see the Italian flag on the shirt, if you are nationalist, then that must annoy anyone who is so..

 

[juventus1897]

I only asked you a question, take a chill pill will you?

No you are the one who needs some sort of pill. It has been pretty obvious that you don't like the Azzurri, don't even try to pretend like it isn't true. But only because your team, whoever that may be, failed to qualify or isn't part of Europe doesn't mean that you should try to anger people by questioning their nationality or their right to support the team they like most, especially when you don't know shit about them.

Listing me in some sort of list of yours without even knowing the first thing about me is simply pathetic, no offense.

 

[Bjerknes]

They're not cheering for ANY team, they're cheering for ITALIA, greatest team in the world!!

I'll give you four for your World Cups.

:melayyanandmessi: :melayyanandmessi: :melayyanandmessi: :melayyanandmessi:

Like I said, you are only mixing nationalism with sport, if your country was the worst football team in the world, you would go and cheer for one of those great national teams. The Turkey example you gave is the same way, doesn't make sense again, because we are talking football here, and not politics or whose nation is better or not.

Yeah, I know we're not talking politics here, because we're talking about international football. And nationalism with sport, something that doesn't hurt anybody and is truly competitive, is not a bad thing. That's why we have the World Cup, the Euros, and the Olympics etc.

My country the US hasn't done anything in the football world, being one of the "worst" in some people's mind not only because of politics. Why didn't I stick with the Azzurri after I saw them play here in the States in 1994? I mean, surely the US is one of the worst World Cup competing nations...

But you don't see me supporting anybody else. Why? Because it defeats the whole purpose of the thing and is just... stupid.

If we want to kick nationalism out of sport, then we have to rid ourselves of these ugly competitions such as the World Cup.

Andy, you and Jack are mixing those who like Italian football including the league and the national team, and to those who dream to be Italian, with Italian signatures, Italian flags on their avatar, or even that fool who asked the Italian national team anthem. Not all the cases are the same things.

We're not confusing anything here. The majority of the people on that list are fans of the Italian National Team.

Well the same can be said about Lebanon, they have bad football team, and maybe they will never make the world cup. Just like you picked Juve because that local team is weak and un professional, so why not pick another good NT to cheer for?

BECAUSE CLUB IS DIFFERENT FROM COUNTRY!

 

[Bjerknes]

No you are the one who needs some sort of pill. It has been pretty obvious that you don't like the Azzurri, don't even try to pretend like it isn't true. But only because your team, whoever that may be, failed to qualify or isn't part of Europe doesn't mean that you should try to anger people by questioning their nationality or their right to support the team they like most, especially when you don't know shit about them.

Listing me in some sort of list of yours without even knowing the first thing about me is simply pathetic, no offense.

I actually like the Azzurri, but I'm with Jack here.

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't know what is the difference between the two exactly (I see it the same way), same things can be said about me I guess, I didn't watch any of Italy's qualifying games, I just watch them on tournaments, I love watching them on tournaments and always want them to win, and it sucks for me to see them lose. Well you name the category I belong (Supporter or "like to see them do good"?).

Fan of the Azzurri.

 

[juventus1897]

I actually like the Azzurri, but I'm with Jack here.

With him on what? Talking about me without knowing me, listing people he has no clue about in some sort of list to make his point?

 

[Bjerknes]

With him on what? Talking about me without knowing me, listing people he has no clue about in some sort of list to make his point?

Not about you, but on his stance on international football and posting that list. Who cares if he posted it... doesn't really matter. Anybody can post it and conclude what they want about it.

Come on here. Don't tell me the majority of those people do not support the Azzurri and are not Italian.