Official Azzurri (Italy) Euro 2008 Qualifier thread (27 Viewers)

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Azzurri7

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Cannavaro - 6 Was really pulled apart at times, thank McFadden for being selfish & missing a sitter.
Zambrotta - 4 He was really bad. All of Scotlands attacks were based on his side.
Pirlo - 4 Where was he?
Gattusso - 4 Didn't even have the energy to argue with the ref today forget about playing football.
Ambrosini - 5,5 Average. The Scots were practically strolling the midfield.
Toni - 5,5 I know he scored a goal but a player with that height should be jumping like a clown when all long balls were directed at him. Yes he ran a lot but like a headless chicken.
I don't recall Canna being pulled apart, I agree with both Zambo and Pirlo, I rated them a bit high maybe because the game was crucial. I disagree though about Rino, probably didnt had the energy like usually but he did add lot of things apart from defending, I saw Rino attacking alot, crossing, passing something we're not used to.


Toni had a good ball control, grabbed lot of fouls and scored a goal. If Toni deserves 5.5 then I don't know why Trezeguet is always rated above 6 when scoring a goal and doing nothing. But you got a point anyway.
 

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Fred

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No seriously, Nocerino isn't as good as Gattuso, aquilani isn't as good as Ambrosini or Perro or even De Rossi.

But none of the midfielders deserve to be more than C. Zanetti in the NT side. and I'm not biased at all. I just don't see Ambrosini ahead of C. Zanetti nor Pirlo, De Rossi.
You are not honestly saying that Zanetti is better than.. Pirlo,De Rossi,Gatusso and Aquilani??
Zanetti is good,but not that good.
 

Zé Tahir

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I've been watching most of Milan games, I don't see how Pirlo deserve a place in the NT more than Zanetti. Only thing he's been better than Zanetti at is his passing abilities. Other than that He's in no where better than him.

Zanetti has proved to be a world class player this year. But Donadoni should be one son of a prick not to pick him up.
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I don't recall Canna being pulled apart, I agree with both Zambo and Pirlo, I rated them a bit high maybe because the game was crucial. I disagree though about Rino, probably didnt had the energy like usually but he did add lot of things apart from defending, I saw Rino attacking alot, crossing, passing something we're not used to.


Toni had a good ball control, grabbed lot of fouls and scored a goal. If Toni deserves 5.5 then I don't know why Trezeguet is always rated above 6 when scoring a goal and doing nothing. But you got a point anyway.
As you have noticed I gave Canna a 6 which is still high but if McFadden had crossed the ball instead of shooting wildly when 3 Scottish players were all waiting it would have been a different story. Where was Canna when the ball was crossed right in the middle of the penalty box & Panucci decided to sidestep it only for McFaden to miss a sitter.
Italy did not attack alot. I caught the game after 5 minutes & it was all scots except for a few italian moments. Rino was to me non existent & the scots easily got the ball to italian 3rd of the pitch but didn't really know what to do with it.
Unlike Trez Toni is known for his beating 1 player or two before unleashing a shot so it was a major dissapointment that he did not spark. When Italy decided to direct the long ball towards him he just started jumping for the sake of jumping. That was quite comical.
 

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The Lads Were Wonderful - Donadoni

Italy coach Roberto Donadoni heaped praise on his players after the 2-1 win in Scotland that sealed the Azzurri's qualification to Euro 2008.

Italy have qualified to Euro 2008. At the moment of triumph, coach Roberto Donadoni chose to give credit to his players rather than complimenting himself, after the incessant criticism he has received ever since coming on the Azzurri's bench, more than a year ago.

"These lads are wonderful, the merit is all theirs," Donadoni said right after the match, "we showed our strength and our heart, and ended up celebrating a completely deserved qualification.

"My best game as coach? We've been playing at very highly levels a whole year now, perhaps I have some merit as coach but tonight it's the players who deserve all the praise."

Italy went into in this highly anticipated clash knowing only a draw would be required to be practically sure of qualification (only needing to avoid defeat to the Faroe Islands in their final home match in case of a draw), while Scotland needed a win.

Luca Toni opened the score after just a minute, before Antonio Di Natale scored what appeared to be a legimitate goal, but it was called off for offside. Scotland captain Barry Ferguson then scored the equaliser around the hour mark in a dubious position, before Christian Panucci broke Scottish hearts with a late header to seal Italy's qualification and knock Scotland out.

There's A Reason Why We're World Champions - Cannavaro

Italy captain Fabio Cannavaro talked about the victory over Scotland, while Luca Toni dedicated the win to Gabriele Sandri, the Lazio fan who was killed last weekend.

He's the captain of the World Champions and tonight he can say it with legitimate pride, after Italy sealed their qualification to Euro 2008 with a deserved 2-1 win in Scotland. Fabio Cannavaro gave his thuoghts after this hard-fought, epic victory.

"We are not the World Champions by chance, when there's a game that matters we always win it with class, heart, and humility. We showed it again tonight," he boasted.

He then talked about the environment the Azzurri had to play in: "It was very loud, and it was made even worse by the bad weather: when it was 1-1 I really got a bit worried for a moment."

Meanwhile, Luca Toni dedicated the victory to the Lazio fan who was shot dead last weekend by a policeman, Gabriele Sandri.

"It's a small thing, but after this tragedy I think it's right to dedicate our victory to Gabriele Sandri," the Bayern Munich striker said, "my goal was important because it silenced the crowd who were very loud from the start."

Cannavaro talked about the sportsmanship of the Scottish fans, who cheered their heroes at the end of the match despite the defeat, an attitude he hopes Italy will take over in the future.

"I hope this type of thing will happen also in Italy, it doesn't take a lot and it would be bad if it didn't: our football wins in Europe and the world, but it must also do so outside the pitch," he concluded.

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Chazz

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You are not honestly saying that Zanetti is better than.. Pirlo,De Rossi,Gatusso and Aquilani??
Zanetti is good,but not that good.
U cant compare pirlo and aquillani with zanetti they play a different game i dont think zanetti is better then gatusso and de rossi but form wise his been the better player and he deserved a call up but with donadoni as coach one shouldnt have high expectation i hope the door hits him where the good lord split him
 

Azzurri7

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You are not honestly saying that Zanetti is better than.. Pirlo,De Rossi,Gatusso and Aquilani??
Zanetti is good,but not that good.
I'm not saying Zanetti is better than Pirlo...and vice versa, he hasn't been better than Zanetti, at least this year.

And believe me has nothing to do with me being a Juventus supporter but If anyone would check back Zanetti's ratings after each game he can figure out that he's on fire.
 

Fred

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I'm not saying Zanetti is better than Pirlo...and vice versa, he hasn't been better than Zanetti, at least this year.

And believe me has nothing to do with me being a Juventus supporter but If anyone would check back Zanetti's ratings after each game he can figure out that he's on fire.
yes i agree Zanetti has been in surprisingly great form this season..but like they say..form is temporary class is permanent..in no way does he deserve to play ahead of any of the italian mids in the meantime imo..

the italian midfield looks like this

------------------------Pirlo---------------

-------------Gatusso---------Ambrosini---

so if he were to play..he would take Pirlo's place..and IMO that is virtually impossible..Pirlo is one of the best players in his position in the world..the same cannot be said about Zanetti despite his current form..because going by that..we can say that Flamini deserves to play ahead of Makelele in the french NT.Because Flamini has been in better form this season

Not to mention Donadoni isnt going to sacrifice Italys only creative spark in midfield for a holding midfielder.
 

Elvin

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The reality is: performing good for your club, doesn't mean that you'll do the same for NT. Zanetti hasn't played for Italy enough, to be chosen over these guys.

TBH, that's one of the main reasons Domenech doesn't call Trez.
 

Fred

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The reality is: performing good for your club, doesn't mean that you'll do the same for NT. Zanetti hasn't played for Italy enough, to be chosen over these guys.

TBH, that's one of the main reasons Domenech doesn't call Trez.
except Trez did prove he can perform well for the NT.
 
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No. There is no justification for arrogance ever.
He's not being arrogant . His team just qualified for Euro 2008 after 2 years of hard work . He's happy , overjoyed , and wants to compliment himself and his mates . there's nothing wrong with that . He has every right to brag .
 

AzzurriGirl

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:yuck: What an arrogant jerk!!
That's not arrogance it is simply the truth. This team is World Champions because they have great heart, play as a solid, cohesive team and they never give up, ever. Despite all the usual turmoil that surrounds them they are always focused on the game and on winning.

Other teams may have more raw talent but the Azzurri are Champions because they have that intangible winning quality and the ability to overcome the odds.

AzzurriGirl
 

Morra10

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it sucks that it came down to a referee decision to turn the game around. Sure that wasn't a foul on chiellni but we took the opportunity we were given. It shouldn't of even come down to that TBH. Di natale scored in the first half and for some reason it was called back due to offside. Pretty bad decision there. Secondly, Feregeson was offside on scotlands goal. So you can't really blame the referee for that call when he was terrible all game. Good job scotland, you played beyond my expectations.
 

ReBeL

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That's not arrogance it is simply the truth. This team is World Champions because they have great heart, play as a solid, cohesive team and they never give up, ever. Despite all the usual turmoil that surrounds them they are always focused on the game and on winning.

Other teams may have more raw talent but the Azzurri are Champions because they have that intangible winning quality and the ability to overcome the odds.

AzzurriGirl
ANd why wasn't he that confident before the match?
 
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