North Korea Apparently Carries Out Nuclear Test (1 Viewer)

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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#41
practically the whole damn world condemned N. Korea's actions...

yet we have a few ppl here who agree with N. Korea

if you guys agree so much about their rights to have nuclear power, and their leaders actions, then go live there !!

you'll end up starving like most of their country...

and they have NO choice to leave...they will be killed if they try

oppose the government ?? your killed if you try

great country they have there....the leader is a real genius...and now he has nuclear bombs
 

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Omair

Herticity
Sep 27, 2006
3,253
#42
Martin said:
Exactly on what platform would that happen? Japan and South Korea have close ties, but China is a completely different kind of political entity.
I know there is no chance for that to happen .. I'm just replying on who's saying that might happen :)
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
8,068
#43
Vinman said:
practically the whole damn world condemned N. Korea's actions...

yet we have a few ppl here who agree with N. Korea

if you guys agree so much about their rights to have nuclear power, and their leaders actions, then go live there !!

you'll end up starving like most of their country...

and they have NO choice to leave...they will be killed if they try

oppose the government ?? your killed if you try

great country they have there....the leader is a real genius...and now he has nuclear bombs
Its not as much as agreeing with N. Korea, but just in spite of a president who alienated the whole world. Anyone opposing him has become more than welcome...

Also, niether you or I could actually give an accurate evaluation on how N. Korean are actually living. But I know that western media portray of my country and what is actually happening on the ground are two different things...
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,870
#44
Bisco said:
my guess would be financial aids being sent to north korea by these three countries infront of north korea giving up there program. i dont know if it will work or not, but thats what i see happening in the near future.
Actually, I don't think this will be the solution as this type of regimes that rules North Korea doesn't really care if the people eat or not...

In the end, it is their reign is what is worth it according to them...
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,870
#45
Wraith said:
One potential problem that may surface is North Korea's ties to Iran and Syria. It would be highly inconvenient if one or two ships with enriched uranium arrived in Iran every year. While North Korea probalby will not attack anyone, Iran is somewhat more aggressively inclined. Bolton has suppposedly drafted a resolution for the Security Council calling for inspections of all cargo entering and leaving North Korea. I hate this guy, but that would be a good resolution. So the UN might do something for once...or not.
Actually, UN should have interfered in more urgent issues since a very long time, but that organization is just the dummy of the Western world. It doesn't represent anybody but those idiot characters sitting on their seats in that building in New York...

You can't make use of anything there except following up the new fashions of formal suits and ties...
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,870
#46
Vinman said:
practically the whole damn world condemned N. Korea's actions...

yet we have a few ppl here who agree with N. Korea

if you guys agree so much about their rights to have nuclear power, and their leaders actions, then go live there !!

you'll end up starving like most of their country...

and they have NO choice to leave...they will be killed if they try

oppose the government ?? your killed if you try

great country they have there....the leader is a real genius...and now he has nuclear bombs
Vinny,

I have to tell you this:

If we don't criticize the right of North Korea to acquire nuclear bombs, that doesn't make us very loyal to everything related to the ruling party there...

Personally, I don't support any of the parties in this issue, but honestly, I'm closer to anybody who challenges G. Bush and Dummy Anan's organization...
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,418
#47
Vinman said:
practically the whole damn world condemned N. Korea's actions...

yet we have a few ppl here who agree with N. Korea

if you guys agree so much about their rights to have nuclear power, and their leaders actions, then go live there !!

you'll end up starving like most of their country...

and they have NO choice to leave...they will be killed if they try

oppose the government ?? your killed if you try

great country they have there....the leader is a real genius...and now he has nuclear bombs
Why does the US have nuclear weapons?
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,978
#51
Wraith said:
Eh, leaders are known for making bad decisions. For example, a couple of years ago Mugabe, the president of Zimbabwe, turned away planeloads of UN food aid. The reason? There was some GM wheat in the bread, and he claimed that Zimbabweans are people not dogs, and therefore shouldn't eat that trash. What can you say.
Same problem happened when Middle Ages Europe lived and died on a grain-based diet that was highly subject to famine, blight, and crop loss -- resulting in starvation, malnourishment, war, etc.

The potato, native to South America, was brought over as a potential answer to all those woes, but many European nation states resisted it -- and many religious leaders flouted that no moral human being would eat something from under the ground. As a result, millions died of starvation for no good reason other than misplaced pride over food sources.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
#53
Rami said:
Its not as much as agreeing with N. Korea, but just in spite of a president who alienated the whole world. Anyone opposing him has become more than welcome...

Also, niether you or I could actually give an accurate evaluation on how N. Korean are actually living. But I know that western media portray of my country and what is actually happening on the ground are two different things...
its common knowledge Rami that they are dirt poor, and most people are living way below the poverty line...so much for communism

Jeeks said:
Why does the US have nuclear weapons?
originally to protect us from the threat of the Soviet Union, who also is heavily armed btw..

and now to protect us from a wack-job who has no regard for his people, let alone the rest of the world, and could fire a missile out of complete paranoia of a "supposed" US attack on his country...and to protect us from a fundamentalist Islamic country who has already made claims to wipe one nation off the map when they are nuclear capable...and may aim to the west immediately after...
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
8,068
#54
Vinman said:
its common knowledge Rami that they are dirt poor, and most people are living way below the poverty line...so much for communism



originally to protect us from the threat of the Soviet Union, who also is heavily armed btw..

and now to protect us from a wack-job who has no regard for his people, let alone the rest of the world, and could fire a missile out of complete paranoia of a "supposed" US attack on his country...and to protect us from a fundamentalist Islamic country who has already made claims to wipe one nation off the map when they are nuclear capable...and may aim to the west immediately after...
In any case, I am sure that your idea and my idea of the living circumstances in N. Korea differ from reality. And for every Korean who opposes there will be a content or proponant of their government...


On the second paragraph vinnie, I believe its a wll known theory in political science that Nuclear arms is merely a defensive weapon and not offensive. No country would dare to nuke another nuclear country. Its just a preventive weapon. Pakistan is now at par with India why? Just because they have nukes, do they have then intention to use them? I don't think so....
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
#55
Rami said:
In any case, I am sure that your idea and my idea of the living circumstances in N. Korea differ from reality. And for every Korean who opposes there will be a content or proponant of their government...


On the second paragraph vinnie, I believe its a wll known theory in political science that Nuclear arms is merely a defensive weapon and not offensive. No country would dare to nuke another nuclear country. Its just a preventive weapon. Pakistan is now at par with India why? Just because they have nukes, do they have then intention to use them? I don't think so....
prevenitive of what, Rami ??

an attack maybe ???

trust me, if/when N.Korea and/or Iran have nuclear warheads, you could see a real possibilty of a nuclear attack by one of those 2 countries

both leaders have little regard for their countries, and have even less for the rest of the world
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
8,068
#56
Vinman said:
prevenitive of what, Rami ??

an attack maybe ???

trust me, if/when N.Korea and/or Iran have nuclear warheads, you could see a real possibilty of a nuclear attack by one of those 2 countries

both leaders have little regard for their countries, and have even less for the rest of the world
If they have no regards to their countries, they would hold theirselves and their interests in high regards....a nuclear strike on america will immediatly trigger total anihilation of their countries, their interests, and the whole country would be dead, including its leaders....
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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#57
Rami said:
In any case, I am sure that your idea and my idea of the living circumstances in N. Korea differ from reality. And for every Korean who opposes there will be a content or proponant of their government...


On the second paragraph vinnie, I believe its a wll known theory in political science that Nuclear arms is merely a defensive weapon and not offensive. No country would dare to nuke another nuclear country. Its just a preventive weapon. Pakistan is now at par with India why? Just because they have nukes, do they have then intention to use them? I don't think so....
Pakistan has been at par with India long before it had nukes fyi.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
#58
Rami said:
If they have no regards to their countries, they would hold theirselves and their interests in high regards....a nuclear strike on america will immediatly trigger total anihilation of their countries, their interests, and the whole country would be dead, including its leaders....
I can confidentally say that Kim Jong Il has no interests !!!:D
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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#59
Cronios said:
What happens when an angry naughty boy gets a gun in his arms,
do you threaten it?

And i dont think that China was surprised...
Me neither. China, a supplier of oil and food for this region, could well have been backing the action. It remains to be seen. Would strike me as odd, though, considering the economic spheres they are operating within. But possible. The rest of the nuclear weapon states and the international community as a whole should now, one way or another, clearly make North Korea understand that nuclear testing is unacceptable. Sanctions are important. If they are not imposed, what message does that send to the other states with nuclear arms, like Iran?
 

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