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PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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They can try things.

- Take country taxes level in account.

- Implement a EU+GB tax on transfers between clubs with a % that differs from league to league based on economic comparison between all the leagues. PL has money, they then should pay bigger taxes per transfer.

- Use above "UEFA tax" to re-inject money equally in leagues that needs more money to improve, and start getting more competitive.

- Implement a salary cap. With a restriction on players that can get bigger salary than the cap. Like 2 players per team, a bit like in MLS, NBA etc.

If we stay with the same rules, lets transfer Real, Bayern, and Barca to PL, and call it a day. Besides those clubs+PL everyone else is $#@!ed by FFP. Do you think football fans are ok with that? If other leagues get poorer, then people will start looking at something else to watch/attend, or in the best case, will spend less money in that hobby named football, which will make clubs even poorer.
I wonder how brexit will affect transfers. It will be interesting to see how much of an impact this has.

I like the UEFA tax and Salary cap idea but UEFA are a bunch of tools, they can barely manage to run FFP properly.
 

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Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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They are alone as they doubled the already insane prices.

Just if Barca spends 130-150 on Coutinho doesn't mean they are crazy as PSG. They are just spending their (PSGs) money while any other club will try to milk the last penny out of them. Just like we did with Higuain when we sold Pogba.
They bought arguably the 3rd best player in the world in his prime. Neymar is at least worth twice as Lukaku, Morata...
And they activated his clause, because Barca weren't willing to negociate, didn't want to sell, so you either pay the clause or they won't be getting him. We did the same with higuain.
 

Dujj

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Jun 4, 2017
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They bought arguably the 3rd best player in the world in his prime. Neymar is at least worth twice as Lukaku, Morata...
And they activated his clause, because Barca weren't willing to negociate, didn't want to sell, so you either pay the clause or they won't be getting him. We did the same with higuain.
True. If shrek Lukaku is worth 100M, then Neymar is worth at least 200.

That's why it's stupid to only blame PSG. UEFA needs to implement new rules to regulate both transfers fees, and salaries.
 

Dostoevsky

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They bought arguably the 3rd best player in the world in his prime. Neymar is at least worth twice as Lukaku, Morata...
And they activated his clause, because Barca weren't willing to negociate, didn't want to sell, so you either pay the clause or they won't be getting him. We did the same with higuain.
No, it's not the same. We sold Pogba and we had the money from that transfer. We didn't sign Pipita for the sake of it as we NEVER buy big without the sales. So we had the money and our books looked and still look totally fine.

PSG didn't sell anyone and they didn't achieve worlds success to spend a profit which they never had to begin with. It was pumping the Arab money out of thin air.

There's no way it can be compared with us. Or basically any other transfer really. This is a new insane.
 

Cheesio

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No, it's not the same. We sold Pogba and we had the money from that transfer. We didn't sign Pipita for the sake of it as we NEVER buy big without the sales. So we had the money and our books looked and still look totally fine.

PSG didn't sell anyone and they didn't achieve worlds success to spend a profit which they never had to begin with. It was pumping the Arab money out of thin air.

There's no way it can be compared with us. Or basically any other transfer really. This is a new insane.
Lol, i'am not defending them. But they have money, wether its from sales, sponsors or fucking qatar. In the end as long as they can afford it doesnt matter.
Do you think we would mind if Elkann decided to pump funds in the team and we startt spending like crazy ? you won't.
This tred started long ago, and the Neymar case it's just the icing on the cake.
 

Dujj

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I wonder how brexit will affect transfers. It will be interesting to see how much of an impact this has.

I like the UEFA tax and Salary cap idea but UEFA are a bunch of tools, they can barely manage to run FFP properly.
The problem is that UEFA brings competition, and rules between EU clubs, but besides that, every leagues are so different that the difference between current top clubs, and others will just get bigger, and bigger.

It's the same problem in the rest of what the EU is btw. We pretend we are all the same, but you have countries that get much more from the EU machine than the rest (Germany for example, or Ireland that have companies taxes so low it fucks over other countries that can't do the same. As a result plenty of companies fled to Ireland. But we still pretend we are on "equal ground" yeah sure, we believe you Brussels)
 

Dostoevsky

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Lol, i'am not defending them. But they have money, wether its from sales, sponsors or fucking qatar. In the end as long as they can afford it doesnt matter.
Do you think we would mind if Elkann decided to pump funds in the team and we startt spending like crazy ? you won't.
This tred started long ago, and the Neymar case it's just the icing on the cake.
But that's the thing. It DOES matter.

1) it's bringing a new high value of players, inflation
2) they are breaking the FFP rules and make the whole thing look funny as it's obvious it's made for big clubs to protect them and destroy the small ones

We never broke the rules when we signed Higuain because what we did was totally 'normal'. What they did is completely insane as they are breaking the mainframe of the rules. 1 year ban for transfers or out of CL for 1 season? lol, mind as well delete the whole FFP thing.
 

Dujj

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But that's the thing. It DOES matter.

1) it's bringing a new high value of players, inflation
2) they are breaking the FFP rules and make the whole thing look funny as it's obvious it's made for big clubs to protect them and destroy the small ones

We never broke the rules when we signed Higuain because what we did was totally 'normal'. What they did is completely insane as they are breaking the mainframe of the rules. 1 year ban for transfers or out of CL for 1 season? lol, mind as well delete the whole FFP thing.
Not delete, but amend it.

UEFA is already talking about a salary cap btw.

They should implement a salary cap like I proposed above., and a transfer fee cap via players value (for example, a player value can't be more than 100M).

If they are talking about it, that means even them knows the current situation is unsustainable, and clearly fucked up.
 

Dostoevsky

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Not delete, but amend it.

UEFA is already talking about a salary cap btw.

They should implement a salary cap like I proposed above., and a transfer fee cap via players value (for example, a player value can't be more than 100M).

If they are talking about it, that means even them knows the current situation is unsustainable, and clearly fucked up.
I'd like that.

However, it's kinda sad you need an actual problem to appear so people become aware of it. The damage can't be undone. Clubs were abusing it for a long time while small clubs were the ones with the most harsh penalties. :tdown:
 

NitK

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Jul 22, 2008
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Juve did the same thing essentially with the number 10 for Dybala announcement.

Can't remember who mentioned wanting Dybala to be a bigger face at Juve...our social media feeds have been all Dybala for the past couple days.
 
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