Nick Against the World (34 Viewers)

Apr 12, 2004
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I knew I could count on you guys. :D
It's what we do.....
Has anybody seen the new Viagra commercial that has a band of five guys singing the lovely tune of, "Viva Viagra"? I don't know about you, but I don't want to be taking viagra and singing about it with four other men. :shifty:
Nope, but that sounds like some hot shit.
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,027
I've gained some more respect for Michael Moore after his interview with Leno tonight. At first I didn't like how I thought he twisted the facts with his movies, but after seeing Roger and Me along with Fahrenheit 9/11 as well as Sicko, I gained much more respect for him. Then tonight he made his case regarding health care in this country, and he truly has a point... this country would be a better place with universal health care.

But what really was astounding is that he brought along three 9/11 rescue workers with him that did not have health insurance, and of course they have had problems recieving care because of that fact. These people risked their lives to help those involved with the attacks, but our government apparently is too busy with other matters to swing an eye towards them. It's really a shame. We always love to praise the heroes of 9/11 and manipulate it to resemble raw patriotism with their efforts, however our government cannot even reward their supposed patriotism with health care. Just another one of the many facets wrong with this country.

After seeing all of the negative light regarding insurance companies, even I'm wondering whether or not it would be a decent moral decision to join them as a weather risk manager. However, we're not toying with people's lives here as does the health insurers, so it doesn't seem anything more than just pure capitalistic activity.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I've gained some more respect for Michael Moore after his interview with Leno tonight. At first I didn't like how I thought he twisted the facts with his movies, but after seeing Roger and Me along with Fahrenheit 9/11 as well as Sicko, I gained much more respect for him. Then tonight he made his case regarding health care in this country, and he truly has a point... this country would be a better place with universal health care.

But what really was astounding is that he brought along three 9/11 rescue workers with him that did not have health insurance, and of course they have had problems recieving care because of that fact. These people risked their lives to help those involved with the attacks, but our government apparently is too busy with other matters to swing an eye towards them. It's really a shame. We always love to praise the heroes of 9/11 and manipulate it to resemble raw patriotism with their efforts, however our government cannot even reward their supposed patriotism with health care. Just another one of the many facets wrong with this country.

After seeing all of the negative light regarding insurance companies, even I'm wondering whether or not it would be a decent moral decision to join them as a weather risk manager. However, we're not toying with people's lives here as does the health insurers, so it doesn't seem anything more than just pure capitalistic activity.
The retarded thing is that we're all paying for the gross inefficiencies of the American health care system. The reason why a Tylenol costs $40 a pop on a hospital bill for the insured is that you're covering for all the uninsured people. And all hospitals and health care systems can't let people die in the streets, but they can't go bankrupt either.

So you have these uninsured people who get their health care primarily through emergency room admissions when they're at death's door -- and things have gotten insanely expensive to fix. An ounce of prevention and a pound of cure.

Problem is that Americans and their health care have become like native English speakers and the EPL: they've become so blinded with their own propagandist bullsh*t about having the best in the world that they have no clue how much they're paying through the nose for comparatively inferior results.

And then you take how public health policy decisions are made -- whether it's research dollars to cure this or that or to prevent this or that -- and you realize that it's not just economically sensible to ensure single-payer plans and some fundamental form of universal coverage, but morally it's also probably the right thing to do. We as a society financially decide what issues and diseases we want to cure and which we want to handle as chronic conditions, and it's just wrong to blame the person with the chronic condition for being on the unlucky side of that financial decision.
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
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The retarded thing is that we're all paying for the gross inefficiencies of the American health care system. The reason why a Tylenol costs $40 a pop on a hospital bill for the insured is that you're covering for all the uninsured people. And all hospitals and health care systems can't let people die in the streets, but they can't go bankrupt either.

So you have these uninsured people who get their health care primarily through emergency room admissions when they're at death's door -- and things have gotten insanely expensive to fix. An ounce of prevention and a pound of cure.

Problem is that Americans and their health care have become like native English speakers and the EPL: they've become so blinded with their own propagandist bullsh*t about having the best in the world that they have no clue how much they're paying through the nose for comparatively inferior results.

And then you take how public health policy decisions are made -- whether it's research dollars to cure this or that or to prevent this or that -- and you realize that it's not just economically sensible to ensure single-payer plans and some fundamental form of universal coverage, but morally it's also probably the right thing to do. We as a society financially decide what issues and diseases we want to cure and which we want to handle as chronic conditions, and it's just wrong to blame the person with the chronic condition for being on the unlucky side of that financial decision.
A couple of remarks here:

the American health care system quite frankly blows. We all know. But prevention has always been widely underrated. That's not an American, but a global issue.

As for the chronic conditions, well, some things really are chronic. Yes, sometimes a society does decide which things can be fixed with a financial decision, but I'd like to know which cases you're talking about here.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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A couple of remarks here:

the American health care system quite frankly blows. We all know. But prevention has always been widely underrated. That's not an American, but a global issue.
Most Americans aren't breathing the same air as you, however. There's a "not invented here" mentality that's very egotistical. My wife sees it in places like Stanford University's medical center. They think they invented everything and are so caught up in the sweet smell of their own noxious farts that they don't even bother to look that po-dunk community hospitals nearby have passed them by in some areas years ago.

As for the chronic conditions, well, some things really are chronic. Yes, sometimes a society does decide which things can be fixed with a financial decision, but I'd like to know which cases you're talking about here.
I'm talking about government decisions to fund things like a cure for some diseases and a decision to just sustain the status quo once an illness becomes chronically treatable. Take diabetes, for example. There are a lot of government and particularly business incentives to keep some diseases as chronic -- so they can focus energies on new things with deadlier outcomes (once the former is treatable) and keep lifetime customers who keep paying for chronic care rather than a less profitable cure.
 
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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

Inferiority complex
Nov 16, 2003
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    In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. They promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no-one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the GAY TEAM

    Tifoso Lou, Seven and the dude that referred to me as CHIMP CHUMP ..oh yeah and the mod that banned me ..prick

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    IncuboRossonero

    IncuboRossonero

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    In case we have any Interista's in the house and for that greek chick...what's her name?? seriously forget..the one that dreams of giving Buffon a prostate massage...



    LILLIANA! (Just remembered)


    :pint:


    (P.S. This is Nick after 8 grappa's ..compliments of Nonino's (the brand)
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
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    The retarded thing is that we're all paying for the gross inefficiencies of the American health care system. The reason why a Tylenol costs $40 a pop on a hospital bill for the insured is that you're covering for all the uninsured people. And all hospitals and health care systems can't let people die in the streets, but they can't go bankrupt either.

    So you have these uninsured people who get their health care primarily through emergency room admissions when they're at death's door -- and things have gotten insanely expensive to fix. An ounce of prevention and a pound of cure.

    Problem is that Americans and their health care have become like native English speakers and the EPL: they've become so blinded with their own propagandist bullsh*t about having the best in the world that they have no clue how much they're paying through the nose for comparatively inferior results.

    And then you take how public health policy decisions are made -- whether it's research dollars to cure this or that or to prevent this or that -- and you realize that it's not just economically sensible to ensure single-payer plans and some fundamental form of universal coverage, but morally it's also probably the right thing to do. We as a society financially decide what issues and diseases we want to cure and which we want to handle as chronic conditions, and it's just wrong to blame the person with the chronic condition for being on the unlucky side of that financial decision.
    Yeah, no doubt. It's all about the money and unfortunately we also have a government that doesn't help matters when they refuse to fund stem cell research due to ridiculous "religious insecurities." We're so quick to start wars and kill off innocent civilians, yet we cannot even put the religious debate aside to help our own people. Stupid fucking ignorant Republicans.
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
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    @Greg: My cousin Matt just accepted a job in San Francisco; he's working with computer software. Should be a good experiance for him after spending 28 years just North of Detroit. There's even a chance of me getting an internship at Risk Management Solutions in Newark, CA, next summer in the field of weather risk management. That would be pretty cool if things work out.

    @Nick: Take Rino's dick out of your hands and post more often!

    Fuck Lilianna. Seriously, make her hurt.
     

    swag

    L'autista
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    @Greg: My cousin Matt just accepted a job in San Francisco; he's working with computer software. Should be a good experiance for him after spending 28 years just North of Detroit.
    He should like it here. Things are more expensive for what you spend on housing, which will make any increased paycheck seem rather small by comparison. But as a native of Chicago myself who has settled in after many, many years here, there's a lot to like. Good for him.

    There's even a chance of me getting an internship at Risk Management Solutions in Newark, CA, next summer in the field of weather risk management. That would be pretty cool if things work out.
    A word of warning: we have the most boring weather patterns on the planet here. The only weather risk in Newark, CA to be managed is if it is 75 and sunny versus 78 and sunny. :p

    @Nick: Take Rino's dick out of your hands and post more often!
    :lol:
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
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    A word of warning: we have the most boring weather patterns on the planet here. The only weather risk in Newark, CA to be managed is if it is 75 and sunny versus 78 and sunny. :p
    :lol2:

    Indeed, and I don't know why RMS's headquarters would be located there. But RMS is not only about weather risk as they also deal with natural hazard risk, terrorism risk and infectious disease risk. Perhaps there is more risk concerned with the Asians floating into the country inside of shipping boxes at the Port of San Franciso complaining of fever, myalgia, and severe coughing.

    :p
     

    The Pado

    Filthy Gobbo
    Jul 12, 2002
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    In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. They promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no-one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the GAY TEAM

    Tifoso Lou, Seven and the dude that referred to me as CHIMP CHUMP ..oh yeah and the mod that banned me ..prick

    :pint:


    'I pity the fool'
    Good shit . . . but Tifoso Lou is not part of that hootnanny.
     

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