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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,356
IncuboRossonero said:
Respond to your posts that have no facts to back up the claim or knowledge of the subject at hand before you SPEAK TO ME


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Nick,

how is Berlusconi not an extremist? Have you forgotten his anti-Islamic comments? Berlusconi owned ridiculously much of the media at one point and nothing was done about. Really, someone like Berlusconi's only possible in Italy and in black Africa.
 

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sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
IncuboRossonero said:
nah the goal was rightfully called offside..even if passive Pippo was in front of the keeper..
the Juve days of contradictory calls are over
well i thought it was a clear goal and so did ur manager....

and ur just gloating abt serie A, cuz u know that ur team is struggling :D:oops:
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
22,708
The largest Dutch footie site (www.vi.nl) asked THE question:

Welke aanvaller moet bondscoach Marco van Basten oproepen als vervanger van de geblesseerde Klaas-Jan Huntelaar? "Which forward should Marco van Basten call up instead of the injured Klaas-Jan Huntelaar?"

2% Collins John
6% Danny Koevermans
9% Roy Makaay
0% Martijn Meerdink
80% Ruud van Nistelrooy

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The plot thickens :lick:
 
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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

Inferiority complex
Nov 16, 2003
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    Seven said:
    Nick,

    how is Berlusconi not an extremist? Have you forgotten his anti-Islamic comments? Berlusconi owned ridiculously much of the media at one point and nothing was done about. Really, someone like Berlusconi's only possible in Italy and in black Africa.
    WHAT DID BERLUSCONI CENSOR?

    You said Berlusconi censored a lot in Italy....WHAT DID HE CENSOR??
     

    Enron

    Tickle Me
    Moderator
    Oct 11, 2005
    75,681
    Erik-with-a-k said:
    The largest Dutch footie site (www.vi.nl) asked THE question:

    Welke aanvaller moet bondscoach Marco van Basten oproepen als vervanger van de geblesseerde Klaas-Jan Huntelaar? "Which forward should Marco van Basten call up instead of the injured Klaas-Jan Huntelaar?"

    2% Collins John
    6% Danny Koevermans
    9% Roy Makaay
    0% Martijn Meerdink
    80% Ruud van Nistelrooy

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    The plot thickens :lick:
    1000 vpoints says he goes with Makaay or Collins John.
     

    swag

    L'autista
    Administrator
    Sep 23, 2003
    84,841
    IncuboRossonero said:
    JACK IS JUST A BITTER FUCK BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MANY 4-0 WINS ITS STILL



    SERIE B
    I have to keep questioning myself if I'm just experiencing sour grapes about this. But I've found more to like about Juve in B this season than Juve in A last season.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
    39,356
    And what do you know..

    Influence on the media
    Berlusconi's extensive control of the media has been linked to claims that Italy's media shows limited freedom of expression. The Freedom of the Press 2004 Global Survey, an annual study issued by the American organization Freedom House, downgraded Italy's ranking from 'Free' to 'Partly Free' [10] on the basis of Berlusconi's influence over RAI, a ranking which, in "Western Europe" was shared only with Turkey (2005). Reporters Without Borders states that in 2004, "The conflict of interests involving prime minister Silvio Berlusconi and his vast media empire was still not resolved and continued to threaten news diversity".[11] In April 2004, the International Federation of Journalists joined the criticism, objecting to the passage of a law vetoed by Carlo Azeglio Ciampi in 2003, which critics believe is designed to protect Berlusconi's alleged 90% control of national media. [12]

    Berlusconi's influence over RAI became evident when in Sofia, Bulgaria he expressed his views on the journalists Enzo Biagi, Michele Santoro [13], and comedian Daniele Luttazzi. Berlusconi said the they "use television as a criminal mean of communication". On August 5, 2002 The board of RAI open a procedure against Santoro due to the content of two transmissions “Sciuscià Edizione Straordinaria”, broadcasted live on May 24, 2002, and the reportage “Sciuscià” aired on July 16, 2002. Enzo Biagi resigned from his position in RAI releasing a statement in which he declared "[...] di non essere stato buttato fuori dalla RAI. Al contrario con la stessa ho raggiunto di mia iniziativa un accordo per me pienamente soddisfacente - I have not been thrown out of RAI. On the contrary with RAI I reached on my own initiative a personally satisfactory agreement..." [14]

    The TV broadcasting of a satirical program called Raiot was censored in November 2003 after the comedienne, Sabina Guzzanti, made outspoken criticism of the Berlusconi media empire [15]. Mediaset, one of Berlusconi's companies, sued the Italian state broadcasting company RAI because of the Guzzanti show asking for 20 million Euro for "damages" and from November 2003 she was forced to appear only in theatres around Italy. The details of the event were made into a Michael Moore-style documentary called Viva Zapatero! produced by Guzzanti.

    In response to such claims, Mediaset, Berlusconi's television group, has stated that it uses the same criteria as the public (state-owned) television RAI in assigning a proper visibility to all the most important political parties and movements (the so-called 'Par Condicio'). It is also true that while the distribution of newspapers in Italy is lower than most other European countries (100 copies per 1000 individuals compared to 500 per 1000 in Scandinavian countries [16]), the majority of national press, which includes the three largest Italian printed dailies, La Repubblica, Il Corriere della Sera and La Stampa, tends to report independently of the Berlusconi government or (in the case of La Repubblica) to be very openly critical of it. Yet the resignations of the director of Corriere della Sera, Ferruccio de Bortoli, were seen as a grasp for more media control from the government. In fact the FNSI, the Trade Union for Italian Journalists, organized a three day long strike to show support to the former director of the newspaper.

    In March 2006, on the Rai Tre, in a television interview with Lucia Annunziata, originally aimed to address Berlusconi's electoral program, the journalist focussed most queries over the possible conflicts of commercial and political interest of Berlusconi and other themes. Berlusconi and Annunziata argued openly because Berlusconi wanted to answer more deeply to a previos question, and as result Berlusconi stormed out of the studio halfway through the show, refusing to answer the persisting questions posed by Annunziata. [17] For the behaviour held in the interview, RAI has been obliged by the Television Authority (which is run by an opposition leader) to take actions against Annunziata as she has violated the par condicio [18]
     

    Azzurri7

    Pinturicchio
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    Dec 16, 2003
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    nah the goal was rightfully called offside..even if passive Pippo was in front of the keeper..
    the Juve days of contradictory calls are over
    tso tso tso....Though Carlo wouldn't agree with you.

    Carlo Ancelotti: “Andrea Pirlo’s goal should not have been disallowed. Incidents like that can be decisive in this type of match, as everything changes when you break the deadlock. We also hit the bar in the first half and it’s a shame. We’ve lost an important opportunity today.”

    http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/oct1h.html
     

    Max

    Senior Member
    Jul 15, 2003
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    swag said:
    I have to keep questioning myself if I'm just experiencing sour grapes about this. But I've found more to like about Juve in B this season than Juve in A last season.
    Yeah I agree, 100%. There's something to prove, and it makes you feel more ecstatic when they win. Maybe it's because every game means something this time.
     

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