'Murica! (155 Viewers)

Jun 16, 2020
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Sure, the idea of it is fine. But when:
- the guy heading it isn't even from your country
- receives government subsidies
- has already stated that he wants to cut a ridiculous amount
- has already stated that he is going to economically harm the average American

Then it becomes a horrendous idea and weakens us as a nation.
Yeah I understand concerns, but the idea alone is good. And it isn’t Elon alone executing everything.

I always found politicians involved in stocks very shady aswel, it’s way more sensitive here than in the US as far as I know
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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It's not surprising, religious people are stupid.
Being religious is not matter at all as long as you keep it in private and don't force others to subscribe your faith and believe, hatred will come once extremists starting apply rules and principles of their religion in public and associate them in social and politic.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,474
Yeah I understand concerns, but the idea alone is good. And it isn’t Elon alone executing everything.

I always found politicians involved in stocks very shady aswel, it’s way more sensitive here than in the US as far as I know
But what use is a good idea if the people executing it are openly out to cause you harm?

Ramaswamy pledged, if elected, to rule by executive fiat to a degree unprecedented among modern U.S. presidents. He pledged to fire 75% of federal employees; dismantle civil service protections, making federal employment at-will; and abolish at least five federal agencies, including the Education Department, FBI, ATF, IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and USDA's Food and Nutrition Service. He called the Food and Drug Administration "corrupt" and vowed to "expose and ultimately gut" the FDA. He asserted that the president has the unilateral power to abolish agencies by executive order, although executive agencies and departments are created by statute, and under the Constitution, Congress has the power of the purse. He called for an eight-year term for all government employees and pledged to revoke Executive Order 10988, an order issued by President John F. Kennedy that gives federal employees the right to collectively bargain.
These are openly harmful. These are horrible ideas.

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Well all this explained why Trump said that you're not really Jewish if you don't vote for me.
Way I see it is that Trump will get Israel to do his bidding, probably go for Iran too.
Other way around.

That X person is doing a good job exposing how all of the appointees are pro-Israel war hawks who want to bomb Iran, worked for Dick Cheney, have military rent-seeking contracts, et cetera. Going to be hilarious when the "WE DONT WANT WWIII" crowd realizes they're going to get it faster now.
They won't care, they will make up some other excuse.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
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Yeah I understand concerns, but the idea alone is good. And it isn’t Elon alone executing everything.

I always found politicians involved in stocks very shady aswel, it’s way more sensitive here than in the US as far as I know
Bill Clinton put Al Gore to the same task. The idea is nothing novel. How you implement it matters.
People bitching about career politicians being out if touch will have to face the reality of a 2 billionaires deciding for them.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,552
That X person is doing a good job exposing how all of the appointees are pro-Israel war hawks who want to bomb Iran, worked for Dick Cheney, have military rent-seeking contracts, et cetera. Going to be hilarious when the "WE DONT WANT WWIII" crowd realizes they're going to get it faster now.
I pointed this out too, but MAGA will somehow blame the Biden administration for this.

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But what use is a good idea if the people executing it are openly out to cause you harm?



These are openly harmful. These are horrible ideas.

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Other way around.


They won't care, they will make up some other excuse.
I disagree, I believe the US will fund Israel to have carte blanche with the Palestinians then move onto the Iranians just so Trump won't look like a war mongerer for sending troops into the region.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,474
I pointed this out too, but MAGA will somehow blame the Biden administration for this.

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I disagree, I believe the US will fund Israel to have carte blanche with the Palestinians then move onto the Iranians just so Trump won't look like a war mongerer for sending troops into the region.
It's Israel that want the Palestinians and Iranians gone, the former are "irrelevant" to us and the latter aren't a real threat to us.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,552
It's Israel that want the Palestinians and Iranians gone, the former are "irrelevant" to us and the latter aren't a real threat to us.
Basically the middle eastern countries don't care for Palestinians, they really don't thats why nobody will take them in anymore given their past troubles.
As for Iran, they've already had their plans to assassinate Trump uncovered in recent days, I'm terms of peace in the middle east alot will depend on Iran who are starting these proxy wars in the region, again it be in US interest to have them dealt with.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,495
Musk is an asshole.

But he did:
- multiply Tesla's worth a couple of times;
- bet on Trump to gain a massive financial advantage.

Dude is a monster and we'd be better off without him. But he does seem to be doing something right for his companies.
I say it in jest but this guy must be getting info from the future or something. He cashes out and goes all in on very risky ventures every single time. The breadth and number of his accomplishments make him imo the most influential human in the last 20 years.
 

Kopanja

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
5,547
I say it in jest but this guy must be getting info from the future or something. He cashes out and goes all in on very risky ventures every single time. The breadth and number of his accomplishments make him imo the most influential human in the last 20 years.
I knew a guy in a previous life who, even before SpaceX existed and any Tesla's success, believed that Musk was from the future and possibly a reptile. The guy was an English teacher, American, crackpot, but quite cool otherwise. Then, he married a Russian, moved to Moscow, and went full retard.
 

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