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BayernFan

Senior Member
Feb 17, 2016
7,138
I don't really think you can talk about him only having one bad game as a Juve coach like the one mentioned against Ajax.

The thing is, when you have to keep doing comebacks then it's because you're doing something wrong. And that was also the reason I said I liked the Allegri football from 2014-17.

His last two years you had too many bad moments in the KO rounds as I remember it, the ones against Tottenham where you let go of a 2-0 lead, the home leg against Real Madrid, the away leg against Atletico and then the Ajax game.

It's always great when you can achieve comebacks, no doubt. But if you have to do comebacks very often, then it means you messed something totally up in the first game and even with the comebacks is it dangerous to put yourself in this situation again and again because you fuck up your tactics and approach in the first leg, at some point you won't be able to bounce back and it bites you in the ass.

Allegri from 2014-17 actually played what I would consider close to flawless CL campaigns, but after your final in 2017 it only went downhill as I see it.
 
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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I don't really think you can talk about him only having one bad game as a Juve coach like the one mentioned against Ajax.

The thing is, when you have to keep doing comebacks then it's because you're doing something wrong. And that was also the reason I said I liked the Allegri football from 2014-17.

His last two years you had too many bad moments in the KO rounds as I remember it, the ones against Tottenham where you let go of a 2-0 lead, the home leg against Real Madrid, the away leg against Atletico and then the Ajax game.

It's always great when you can achieve comebacks, no doubt. But if you have to do comebacks very often, then it means you messed something totally up in the first game and even with the comebacks is it dangerous to put yourself in this situation again and again because you fuck up your tactics and approach in the first leg, at some point you won't be able to bounce back and it bites you in the ass.

Allegri from 2014-17 actually played what I would consider close to flawless CL campaigns, but after your final in 2017 it only went downhill as I see it.
There is a finite amount of possibilities when you keep regressing the midfield so much.

Instead of sacking Allegri, we should have invested in the cm's he needed.


Look at the mess the midfield has been since.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
21,127
Our biggest mistake wasn't sacking Allegri it's who we replaced him with.

You all have poor memory's if you can't remember the shit football we played in his last couple of seasons. Yes our poor midfield didn't help but these boring outdated Italian tactics aren't winning shit in Europe.
 
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Mar 10, 2009
8,758
Our biggest mistake wasn't asking Aleggri it's who we replaced him with.

You all have poor memory's if you can't remember the shit football we played in his last couple of seasons. Yes our poor midfield didn't help but these boring outdated Italian tactics aren't winning shit in Europe.
These 'outdated' tactics got us in the final twice....
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Our biggest mistake wasn't asking Aleggri it's who we replaced him with.

You all have poor memory's if you can't remember the shit football we played in his last couple of seasons. Yes our poor midfield didn't help but these boring outdated Italian tactics aren't winning shit in Europe.
With all due respect, but if you mean that, your not an intelligent man.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,395
Second place is nothing to be proud of. We had one if the best squads on Europe so it doesn't surprise me went that far.

Cruising game in the league at 1-0 with no ruthlessness to finish games off is what killed us in the CL.
Did Barca and Real have better squads?

Of course they did. If the referee calls a clear penalty on Pogba we go 2-1 up against one of Barca's best ever sides that had Messi, Neymar and Suarez in their prime with our patched up defence.

We gave one of the best CL teams of all time a good game for 45 mins in Cardiff then collapsed in the second half, partly due to having no bench.

We overachieved, particularly in the second final season.

Ajax was bad but look at the lineups that we were forced to play in both legs and tell me we had a strong enough squad for Europe that season.
 
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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Second place is nothing to be proud of. We had one if the best squads on Europe so it doesn't surprise me went that far.

Cruising game in the league at 1-0 with no ruthlessness to finish games off is what killed us in the CL.
If you look at the roster off

PSG
Bayern Munchen
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Manchester Shit

But also
Liverpool
Chelsea
Athletico Madrid


it is not a very wise statement to say it wasnt surprising


What in fact wasnt surprising, is the teams we had difficulties against, as it was most clear in these specific games, we struggled an incredibly amount to keep the ball under pressure and drive it forward.

Which again isnt on the coach. But on the roster, when you go against stacked elite balanced teams
 

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