Massimiliano Allegri (263 Viewers)

[Dino_mk]

Most successful period for Juventus has been....
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2014-2018. If you disagree, there is something wrong with you

And if you really believe in this, you r too young or something is wrong with you!

'95-'98 and the way Juve destroyed teams on his way to the finals was soo satisfying. For me' 95-06 decade, and not your convenient chosen 4 years, was more successful period in Juventus history.

 

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[Elvin]

And if you really believe in this, you r too young or something is wrong with you!

'95-'98 and the way Juve destroyed teams on his way to the finals was soo satisfying. For me' 95-06 decade, and not your convenient chosen 4 years, was more successful period in Juventus history.

oh no doubt... 95-99 we were THE team to beat, sadly we did get beaten in two finals and one very close semi-final

 

[Juvepablo88]

Lol I got banned from this forum years ago and as much as I hate to see Juve suffer, I gotta say I’m enjoying watching the likes of post moronic, zizinho, jck, and bianconero aus scramble trying to defend allegri

i also see that antisocial faggot daidevil left the forum too

Imagine getting insulted for wanting your team to play entertaining football…

Hist, Maxi, MikeM, pirlo’s beard, Jagerand Hydde and the others… you’re fighting the good fight. Don’t let these losers put you down

I’ll be banned by the time you see this
- chapin

 

[Siamak]

 

[zizinho]

And if you really believe in this, you r too young or something is wrong with you!

'95-'98 and the way Juve destroyed teams on his way to the finals was soo satisfying. For me' 95-06 decade, and not your convenient chosen 4 years, was more successful period in Juventus history.

Why you cut out 2001-2022
These people

 

[Vlad]

We were a 7th place team, that’s a fact. BBC and MVP wasn’t any reference before Conte, Pirlo was a Milan rejected, Marchisio was played in so many different roles that it was hard for him to shine. Barza was doing okay-ish in Germany.

For instance, Kulu looks horrible with us, it’s looking good and possible great with Conte so it matters a lot in a player and a team mindset

Napoli? Please, I haven’t seen a Milan weaker than those years, Merda are loser by nature, Roma was pushing to get last drop of their reference players. No, I don’t think it was hard to beat the only team could have possible challenge us because 1) we bought their striker 2) they need Maradona to win something 3) they don’t resist pressure, beat example is we finished 4th thanks to them, against who they lost? Verona or something, ridiculous

Max did great in his first stint, but he didn’t “built” that team

Who did? Because after his 1st season mgt dismantled his midfield. Between 2015 and 2016 he integrated 8 new players into 1st team. Da fuk yall talking about?

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And if you really believe in this, you r too young or something is wrong with you!

'95-'98 and the way Juve destroyed teams on his way to the finals was soo satisfying. For me' 95-06 decade, and not your convenient chosen 4 years, was more successful period in Juventus history.

The discussion is I believe which is the most succesful Juve's period in 21st century. So hes right, 2014-2018 was the most succesful.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Lol I got banned from this forum years ago and as much as I hate to see Juve suffer, I gotta say I’m enjoying watching the likes of post moronic, zizinho, jck, and bianconero aus scramble trying to defend allegri

i also see that antisocial faggot daidevil left the forum too

Imagine getting insulted for wanting your team to play entertaining football…

Hist, Maxi, MikeM, pirlo’s beard, Jagerand Hydde and the others… you’re fighting the good fight. Don’t let these losers put you down

I’ll be banned by the time you see this
- chapin

Who?

 

[Clamarc]

Who did? Because after his 1st season mgt dismantled his midfield. Between 2015 and 2016 he integrated 8 new players into 1st team. Da fuk yall talking about?

I'm not trying to discredit Allegri but IMO Conte instilled the grinta that stay with the old core especially the Italians.
Between 2014 til 2018, the strong core was still there to kept the winning mentality in this team. So the integration part is much easier than this Juve right now. What Allegri added was better defensive stability and better approach to UCL games. It all went downhill when Buffon, Marchisio, Barza left the team. Chiellini and Bonucci were still here but they weren't enough

in short Conte laid the foundation but Allegri was the one who finished the house. That house got broken at one point but it just needed some reparation instead of building from the scratch.

 

[duranfj]

We were 7th the year before Conte arrived, but we weren't a 7th place team after the summer mercato. The pieces were there, you just needed a coach to fit them in. As I said already, props to Conte for that, but let's not pretend he was coaching a bunch of Serie B level players. Because Bonucci was there a year only and Barza arrived 6 months prior. Pirlo was WC still, not any reject. By the same logic, Tevez was a City reject, Cuads a Chelsea reject and Mandzukic a Atletico reject. I could go on.

Kulu went to a leage tailor made for him, not saying Conte had no influence but he wouldn't have the same success if he stayed in Serie A, regardless of coach.

Again you are talking about something that's not there. Wasn't Roma and Lazio finishing ahead of the same Milan and inter you mention back in those years as well? Or am I reading the table incorrectly? Fact is, Napoli and Roma pushed us to the end (not because they were as good as us in a direct matchup, but because league competition a marathon where you need consistently above quality) winning record number of points for a2nd place team (Napoli 90, Milan 88, Roma 87, Roma 85) and also for a 3rd placed team. Both finished above 85pts one season and above 80pts in another season. Contes Juve won the league with 84 and 87 points. If you win 90 points out of 114, that means you need to be consistently elite throughout a season. 3 bad nights and you might lose the league if your closest competition is playing at that pace as well. "Legendary Milan and inter" doesn't apply here when they would finish behind Roma or Lazio in a year where we would win the scudetto. It's as simple as that

Now apply the same logic to Max. Getting a team with all those champions, already sync, proper mindset and the right pieces for a jump in Europe. We were attacking Conte because of that, his lack of results in Europe with a team that has everything to succeed. Losing the chance that at least play Europa League final in our stadium was basically the end of everything. Max got that team and we are here now talking about how out of the blue he built such a power team, that’s nonsense.

Max did great, not questions about it, did he build that team? BS. Now in his second term he has the chance to prove he can actually build it by his own and at the beginning of the second year, it looks far from it, specially with fifth positive result while we are in 6th lol

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Who did? Because after his 1st season mgt dismantled his midfield. Between 2015 and 2016 he integrated 8 new players into 1st team. Da fuk yall talking about?

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The discussion is I believe which is the most succesful Juve's period in 21st century. So hes right, 2014-2018 was the most succesful.

MF was dismantled after Max got his first UCL, based on that team. After that almost every player we got almost immediately understood our mindset, the one that gave us 5th title in a row (4 of them won by other guy) so WTH are you talking about it?

now we are here in his second stint and what we got see so far? A soulless team that still looks like Arsenal

 

[Vlad]

I'm not trying to discredit Allegri but IMO Conte instilled the grinta that stay with the old core especially the Italians.
Between 2014 til 2018, the strong core was still there to kept the winning mentality in this team. So the integration part is much easier than this Juve right now. What Allegri added was better defensive stability and better approach to UCL games. It all went downhill when Buffon, Marchisio, Barza left the team. Chiellini and Bonucci were still here but they weren't enough

in short Conte laid the foundation but Allegri was the one who finished the house. That house got broken at one point but it just needed some reparation instead of building from the scratch.

First of all no one needed to instill winning mentality into Buffon or gritt into Chiellini. Buffon was a world champion ffs. Chiellini was always a great defender. What Conte did is kick some grinta into mediocre players during the 2011/12. But those mediocre players were long gone and Max built a new team after 2015 campaign.

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Now apply the same logic to Max. Getting a team with all those champions, already sync, proper mindset and the right pieces for a jump in Europe. We were attacking Conte because of that, his lack of results in Europe with a team that has everything to succeed. Losing the chance that at least play Europa League final in our stadium was basically the end of everything. Max got that team and we are here now talking about how out of the blue he built such a power team, that’s nonsense.

Max did great, not questions about it, did he build that team? BS. Now in his second term he has the chance to prove he can actually build it by his own and at the beginning of the second year, it looks far from it, specially with fifth positive result while we are in 6th lol

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MF was dismantled after Max got his first UCL, based on that team. After that almost every player we got almost immediately understood our mindset, the one that gave us 5th title in a row (4 of them won by other guy) so WTH are you talking about it?

now we are here in his second stint and what we got see so far? A soulless team that still looks like Arsenal

Our winning mentality didnt start with Conte. This club has a history of +100 years of winning. He was given a good group of players prior to 2012 season and he did well with them. He didnt learn old champions some new tricks. If Conte was given the same team that finished 7th 2x in a row, u d have a point but we invested 100s of million during the summer transfer campaign.

 

[Strickland]

Glad that he chose 352 tonight despite his earlier comments this season. Imo he doesnt have the squad, especially the attackers, for a 433 unless everyone is healthy (which is never).

Obv formation doesnt mean shit if the players dont fight on the pitch, but imo this puts a lot of players like Kostic, Cuads, Danilo, Bremer, Bonucci etc in positions they're more comfortable in.

 

[zizinho]

Now apply the same logic to Max. Getting a team with all those champions, already sync, proper mindset and the right pieces for a jump in Europe. We were attacking Conte because of that, his lack of results in Europe with a team that has everything to succeed. Losing the chance that at least play Europa League final in our stadium was basically the end of everything. Max got that team and we are here now talking about how out of the blue he built such a power team, that’s nonsense.

Max did great, not questions about it, did he build that team? BS. Now in his second term he has the chance to prove he can actually build it by his own and at the beginning of the second year, it looks far from it, specially with fifth positive result while we are in 6th lol

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MF was dismantled after Max got his first UCL, based on that team. After that almost every player we got almost immediately understood our mindset, the one that gave us 5th title in a row (4 of them won by other guy) so WTH are you talking about it?

now we are here in his second stint and what we got see so far? A soulless team that still looks like Arsenal

He got a team like that and reached a CL final. Was that Contes winning mentality? The previous year they exited in group stage and the players were made known they're not good enough on every interview. Then he lost key players and kept winning, then he lost more key players and kept winning, again and again. Now you tell me, was that because of Conte? Was only the first season because of Conte? How does this work?

The management built the team, like they did for Conte too. It's their job to field the right pieces and win, and both did to a certain degree. Who did it better? Results say Max. You will say it's because of Conte teaching Buffon, Barza, Chiellini, Pirlo how to win. But reality says Max fixed what Conte couldn't and made the team next level, then repeated the same with no matter how different his teams looked each year. You can't take that away

 

[Clamarc]

Damn Allegri fans are just too delusional
Before Conte took over the whole team were underperfoming not just the mediocre ones. Conte brought back the much needed grinta that lost. So let's not rewrite Conte history like you all Allegri fans always says.
And not only to Juve, he made Chelsea champion, he made Inter champion so it's clear he's good at instilling that grinta, he knows to improve his team to win and he made it in just one season.
If Allegri really built new team from the squad post 2015 and it has nothing to do with the core that Conte built on, then he should be able to win with this squad no?
But so far the result doesn't show that he can do it

 

[JUVEMOOD]

u d have a point but we invested 100s of million during the summer transfer campaign.

Vucinic for probably less than 18ish Mil
Free Pirlo
Vidal for 10ish Mil
Licht for 12ish Mil


Cant really recall who else.. but that was about it if i am not wrong..
How is that 100 mil?

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[Dominic]

Vucinic for probably less than 18ish Mil
Free Pirlo
Vidal for 10ish Mil
Licht for 12ish Mil


Cant really recall who else.. but that was about it if i am not wrong..
How is that 100 mil?

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Giaccherini, Pepe

 

[JUVEMOOD]

I really dont get it how the majority of Football fans all over the world cannot see Allegri is the GOAT Coach, manager, tactician ahead of everyone... he invented football and his man management skills is some devine gift, short term to get immediate results but yet Long long term for building a winning functioning team that no one is seeing the big big big big (as his brain cells) picture like he does



Ah..... and 3-0 vs. Barca..




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[JUVEMOOD]

Giaccherini, Pepe

Yeah.. Giac

Pepe i guess was the season before

And yeah.. this will take total to 100 mil

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[Vlad]

Vucinic for probably less than 18ish Mil
Free Pirlo
Vidal for 10ish Mil
Licht for 12ish Mil


Cant really recall who else.. but that was about it if i am not wrong..
How is that 100 mil?

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He got a team like that and reached a CL final. Was that Contes winning mentality? The previous year they exited in group stage and the players were made known they're not good enough on every interview. Then he lost key players and kept winning, then he lost more key players and kept winning, again and again. Now you tell me, was that because of Conte? Was only the first season because of Conte? How does this work?

The management built the team, like they did for Conte too. It's their job to field the right pieces and win, and both did to a certain degree. Who did it better? Results say Max. You will say it's because of Conte teaching Buffon, Barza, Chiellini, Pirlo how to win. But reality says Max fixed what Conte couldn't and made the team next level, then repeated the same with no matter how different his teams looked each year. You can't take that away

they really believe this shit

 

[Post Ironic]

He got a team like that and reached a CL final. Was that Contes winning mentality? The previous year they exited in group stage and the players were made known they're not good enough on every interview. Then he lost key players and kept winning, then he lost more key players and kept winning, again and again. Now you tell me, was that because of Conte? Was only the first season because of Conte? How does this work?

The management built the team, like they did for Conte too. It's their job to field the right pieces and win, and both did to a certain degree. Who did it better? Results say Max. You will say it's because of Conte teaching Buffon, Barza, Chiellini, Pirlo how to win. But reality says Max fixed what Conte couldn't and made the team next level, then repeated the same with no matter how different his teams looked each year. You can't take that away

These guys thinking Buffon and Pirlo didn’t have winning mentality pre-Conte

 

[JUVEMOOD]

But so far the result doesn't show that he can do it

Well.. normally judgement on team performance and results comes at the end of the season.. and clearly he did not have a full squad at his disposal yet.. more or less.. we are still playing with a team of eq. Stregths to last season.

Myself, with all the hate and lack of respect i have for Allegri style as manager/coach.. I do believe that we have no option but to hope he can get his shit together and shows what the Allegri fan base are seeing that the rest of us the blinds and those who do not share same vision are failing to see..

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