Mario Mandžukić (64 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I dont expect loyalty from our players. They are proffesionels, and as long as they act as proffesionels while they are here and are respectfull after they leave I am Happy with them. I am a supporter of the club and not the individual players. In the same way I want us to keep being smart in the way we do business, so we can stay successfull in the future. Saying no to 35 mio for a 30 year old back up player in some misguided attempt to be "loyal" to a player, who has been here for just over a year while being paid a shit load of money, is not smart business.
Mandzukic a back up player :rofl:
 

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dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
2,599
I completely disagree with you on this matter and so does our management thankfully. Juventus thrives on the fact that the club is more than just a punch of professionals playing for money. Being a supporter of this club you should know and share the values of the club too.

This club values loyalty and sporting objectives over money. These are core values for the club and it makes for a tight knit group which is motivated to share good moments together, a family.
I got news for you. Winning or meeting your sporting objectives as you call it, depends on how well you run the club on a finacial level above all.
I been a supporter of Juve since 1991 and I have seen absolutely no sign that one of the trademarks of the club is loyalty? Not more so than other clubs atleast. Maybe you can explain that one to me.

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Mandzukic a back up player :rofl:
Offcourse he is. He got two players who are much better than him in front of him.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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I got news for you. Winning or meeting your sporting objectives as you call it, depends on how well you run the club on a finacial level above all.
I been a supporter of Juve since 1991 and I have seen absolutely no sign that one of the trademarks of the club is loyalty? Not more so than other clubs atleast. Maybe you can explain that one to me.
You are making this way too black or white. Not selling loyal hard working players who contribute to the teams success doesn't mean neglecting the financial aspect of running the club it just means that every decision is not solely based on money. We have a history of not pushing players out of the door and even when we do so it's usually on the players terms, that to me counts as loyalty. We have guys like De Ceglie and Marrone still on the payroll, we let Llorente go for free just so he could go to a team that he wants and probably get a better wage as well, we let Tevez go and "retire". We definitely have a history of treating players very well, shouldn't be too hard to notice that in 25 years.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I got news for you. Winning or meeting your sporting objectives as you call it, depends on how well you run the club on a finacial level above all.
I been a supporter of Juve since 1991 and I have seen absolutely no sign that one of the trademarks of the club is loyalty? Not more so than other clubs atleast. Maybe you can explain that one to me.

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Offcourse he is. He got two players who are much better than him in front of him.
We play two forwards, he got 1 player in front of him. And in fact, in the biggest game of the season, he played the full game whilst our other striker got subbed

Learn the difference between 'first team' and 'back-up'

You dont sell first team players unless they want out or you can get better
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,025
I wish the fucking chinese would take zaza off our hands at least

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We should refuse and let him go to his Croatian home club for free in summer, when he asks to leave. They will sell him for 30mil to the chinese one year after
its obvious we're going to release mandzukic for free at some point soon. Did it with Tevez and llorente, it's just so marotta
 

X Æ A-12

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Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
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Obvs 35mil for mandzukic is a great deal for us but then we have what? 2 strikers?

Pjaca is not a fw, kean has no experience at this level, and Zaza is sorta decent but overrared around here and he shouldnt be anything above 4th choice which, guessing by the loaning out, he will bitch about.

Tho if we can resign morata for that 35mil im for it:tuttosport:
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
We play two forwards, he got 1 player in front of him. And in fact, in the biggest game of the season, he played the full game whilst our other striker got subbed

Learn the difference between 'first team' and 'back-up'

You dont sell first team players unless they want out or you can get better
He is on the bench when everyone is fit. Thats make him a back up to our starting eleven. That should not be so hard to understand, even for you.

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You are making this way too black or white. Not selling loyal hard working players who contribute to the teams success doesn't mean neglecting the financial aspect of running the club it just means that every decision is not solely based on money. We have a history of not pushing players out of the door and even when we do so it's usually on the players terms, that to me counts as loyalty. We have guys like De Ceglie and Marrone still on the payroll, we let Llorente go for free just so he could go to a team that he wants and probably get a better wage as well, we let Tevez go and "retire". We definitely have a history of treating players very well, shouldn't be too hard to notice that in 25 years.
Treating players, coaches and surroundings with respect is different from loyalty. Marrone and Ashton is probably still on the payroll because their wages are way higher than any other club wants to pay them. The same can be said about Llorente. I think you are being naive here. In the 25 years I have supported, Juve have always been tightly managed, with players coming and going, but with the only aim of winning. If you want to believe some fairytale band of brother story then go ahead, but dont start teaching me stories about what the goals and history of the club is and then get our facts distorted.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Chinese Super League side Beijing Guoan are prepared to offer €35m for Juventus’ Mario Mandzukic, according to reports.

The Croatian striker is a fan favourite in Turin for his all-action style, and has scored five goals in all competitions this season, as well as providing two assists.

However, Corriere della Sera is reporting that Beijing Guoan are ready to test the Bianconeri’s resolve with a €35m bid.

In addition, a huge salary would be put on the table for Mandzukic, who currently earns around €3.5m per season.

Juve would be hesitant to sell, given their lack of depth in attack, but the reported fee for a 30-year-old could prove tempting.
can he be replaced for 35m or less...
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
He is on the bench when everyone is fit. Thats make him a back up to our starting eleven. That should not be so hard to understand, even for you.
You really are a simple person tbh.

Mandzukic is a first team player. They challenge for a spot when they are in great form, and are there exactly to make sure the quality doesnt drop when a player is in poor form, bad shape, or unavailable.

You know, to avoid you'd have to play a backup player.
 

Zzak

Senior Member
Sep 11, 2014
832
First of all...I think the 35 mil is too good to be true.
Second of all...from a business perspective it really makes sense and I think Zaza could cover up for him decently against weak opposition.
He's 30 years old and his value will decrease rapidly. This is almost like free money. All we're sacrificing is a big of sporting advantage as he's a a really good backup striker.

But again...from a business perspective it's a no brainer.

If Real offered us 100 mil for Higuain next summer I'd sell in a heartbeat.

The only players that cannot be sold no matter the price are Buffon, Marchisio, Bonnuci, Dybala and Alex Sandro.
 

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