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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Yaaay. The CL Final, that we lost, yet again. It is a fucking final, not a trophy.

Going by your logic, if we sell Llorente for 8 million it's great business, since we bought him for free. Perhaps getting 30 million for Pogba is also great business, since we got him for free as well :howler:


Holy fuck, he pushed the retard throttle through the bottom of the car!
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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We punched above our weight and got a good amount of luck, we were basically one healthy Modric away from elimination.
Where was this sort of sentiment when things were going against Juve?

I don't recall the 'luck' argument being put forward when Juve were suffering significant misfortune in previous CL campaigns and having to deal with teams driving tractors over pitches and the like.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,385
That's BS. We had an excellent side. Sure, we weren't particularly unlucky when playing Real Madrid, but at that level it's so close you need luck to win it.
Juve didn't drop the cake.

There was one cake left and a customer at another table, who was richer and in a stronger position to get the cake, managed to beat Juve to it.
Regardless, all of that is the past. I think we can do pretty well for this upcoming season, and hopefully we won't shit the bed in the finals again.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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Where was this sort of sentiment when things were going against Juve?

I don't recall the 'luck' argument being put forward when Juve were suffering significant misfortune in previous CL campaigns and having to deal with teams driving tractors over pitches and the like.
We did great. :D
And we've had the same amount of luck that heck barcelona had to make it in the finals too.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,385
But why all the negativity, man?
It's just that everything was going so well last season, everything was so perfect. Until one thing after another starting getting away from us. First the CL, then Tevez and now Vidal. :cry:

And the small luck that we've had, I doubt that we'll be able to get that again, we'll see how things go, specially with an almost entirely new forward line.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,448
It's just that everything was going so well last season, everything was so perfect. Until one thing after another starting getting away from us. First the CL, then Tevez and now Vidal. :cry:

And the small luck that we've had, I doubt that we'll be able to get that again, we'll see how things go, specially with an almost entirely new forward line.

Next season will be tough, since we've rebuilt half a team. But it's not about one season, it's about building a club that competes with the best.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
It's just that everything was going so well last season, everything was so perfect. Until one thing after another starting getting away from us. First the CL, then Tevez and now Vidal. :cry:

And the small luck that we've had, I doubt that we'll be able to get that again, we'll see how things go, specially with an almost entirely new forward line.
I guess some people aren't too perturbed by us losing Pirlo, Vidal, and Tevez in the same Mercato session. Trust the management they say. I trust them enough, but it doesn't mean I can't question their actions or motives. Bunch of obedient servile sycophantic Muppets :howler:
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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As usual, your contribution is superfluous and baseless.
You either posses no self irony or you're trolling me right now

Are you really in a position to project labels such as superflous and baseless on others after your comments on our management during the last four years? Come on buddy. Your opinions are perceived here the same way a german would percieve a greek lecture on fiscal responsibility.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
Look at you. Sucking the proverbial management's cock at every given opportunity. You used to be better than this. What the fuck happened to you? Drinking too much of that blind optimism delusion juice?
It's really simple bro; after all the success this mgt has brought us they deserve some benefit of the doubt, even if some moves might be hard to stomach. Therefore better to wait developments on the pitch before crucifying them, makes more sense. Don't be like JCK, ZoSo or Klin, knee-jerking at every opportunity. You're better than that.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,385
I guess some people aren't too perturbed by us losing Pirlo, Vidal, and Tevez in the same Mercato session. Trust the management they say. I trust them enough, but it doesn't mean I can't question their actions or motives. Bunch of obedient servile sycophantic Muppets :howler:
Pirlo is not that big of a loss, we fucked up on the finals because of him, we would've won if he was benched.


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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,448
You either posses no self irony or you're trolling me right now

Are you really in a position to project labels such as superflous and baseless on others after your comments on our management during the last four years? Come on buddy. Your opinions are perceived the same way a german would percieve a greek lecture on fiscal responsibility.
Or a Greek a German lecture for that matter. Because to be frank that's equally ridiculous.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,613
I guess some people aren't too perturbed by us losing Pirlo, Vidal, and Tevez in the same Mercato session. Trust the management they say. I trust them enough, but it doesn't mean I can't question their actions or motives. Bunch of obedient servile sycophantic Muppets :howler:
I will join you if the mercato is closed and we make totally underwhelming moves.But as of now,everything is just rumors.None of the media have absolutely no clue what we're trying to do or who we're signing,even the reliable sources are reporting crap.
Its better to wait before unleashing.Atleast we can save ourselves from being made to look like fools in the end.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
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Not hard to replace? :howler: Only time will tell how obnoxious such a statement is.

I'm not against selling Vidal (I'm obviously not thrilled about it), but the way we handled the situation, and how much we are getting for him screams desperation. Not to mention that the guy we are potentially replacing Vidal with is no established or accomplished star. Draxler has the potential, but will he realize it? That is another matter entirely.
Draxler isn't replacing Vidal. If that were the case, they would not be looking at Draxler at all.

You have two in house potential replacements for Vidal. One (Khedira) is locked in with his position as a midfielder. The other (Asamoah) is entirely dependent on getting another Left Back. Either one of them, or Pereyra, would be stepping in.

If Juve didn't have this kind of quality lying around after selling Vidal, then I would have lost my mind. But there is still quality there. Different characteristics than Vidal? Yes, absolutely. But we are seeing the beginning of what Allegri is looking for with the squad. More flair, less grinta. And its not as if the club is suddenly bereft of grinta because Vidal and Tevez left. Mandzukic, Lichtsteiner, Chiellini, Marchisio to a degree. It is still there.

Would I have liked to see a bidding war for Vidal? Certainly. But I find it very hard to believe that Marotta and the management would be so short sighted as to believe that no bidding war would have taken place if they placed him on the open market. There was something else at play here, and we may never know. But while it is easy to believe that Marotta didn't want to have a bidding war (for whatever reason), or that he should have made Vidal honor his contract (if that were the case, you would see far less transfers every year), then it is not far fetched to believe that Vidal and his people initiated contact with Bayern, reached agreement with them on a new contract, and then went to Juve to tell them of their intentions, and basically put Juve in a no win situation.

There were several suitors for Ogbonna. There are now several suitors for Llorente. If bidding wars are/were being done for those two, then why would one not be done for Vidal?

Unless the player and his people himself made the first move, and did all of this whilst still under contract with Juve.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
You either posses no self irony or you're trolling me right now

Are you really in a position to project labels such as superflous and baseless on others after your comments on our management during the last four years? Come on buddy. Your opinions are perceived here the same way a german would percieve a greek lecture on fiscal responsibility.
A combination of both you bastard :p

I have questioned the management in the past, and will continue to have doubts and be skeptical, especially after losing 3 of our key players in the same mercato session.

I am grateful for what the team has accomplished, but I fear that instead of building on those accomplishments, we are undermining our achievements by dismantling the winning core.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,882
I guess some people aren't too perturbed by us losing Pirlo, Vidal, and Tevez in the same Mercato session. Trust the management they say. I trust them enough, but it doesn't mean I can't question their actions or motives. Bunch of obedient servile sycophantic Muppets :howler:
The guy who has been throwing nothing but airballs since 2011 os calling others muppets.

Omnomnom the irony tastes good today.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
It's really simple bro; after all the success this mgt has brought us they deserve some benefit of the doubt, even if some moves might be hard to stomach. Therefore better to wait developments on the pitch before crucifying them, makes more sense. Don't be like JCK, ZoSo or Klin, knee-jerking at every opportunity. You're better than that.
I endorse the Dybala move. I'd be happy with Draxler here (for the right price). I am not against all their moves, far from it. However, what irks me is the people who gladly accept everything they do without question. It is too nauseating and saccharine for my liking.
 
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