Mafia 2015.2 - The Game (4 Viewers)

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
Brave move. :tup:

That killed your D.

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What a load of bullshit.

There is no mention of this in the rules because this game used to be played with fun but responsible people. Some of you are neither.

Considering most of the remaining Cs were retards, this game was won by the Gs. Congrats guys.
Why didn't you think Hoori was the D?

I mean she was in as much danger as I was when Ocelot intervened.

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Duh, it's a Juve forum :D
Low blow, thankfully it came from a Juve fan, lessens the effect a bit.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,697
People cheat, that's why there are rules. We have had auto-lynches before, I'm pretty sure we have had people showing their roles via PMs as well. I'm not in no way justifying it but to say that it was not in the rules because people used to respect the game's concepts and basics is absurd. Again, because Joker was a civilian, he was actually more likely to harm civilians by that move so even though I TOTALLY understand why our G team is pissed, they should have continued the game. A last minute auto-lynch can be a strategy only if used by Gs. What Joker did was unacceptable and wrong but the game should have gone on. It would have then been a challenge for Gs (radekas) to find the jailer (revealed to be definitely not recruited after X's lynch) and kill him/her.
I agree. You have no idea how many times Maddy and radekas gave up through-out the whole game. :p

I'm not. I've clearly stated that I found playing as a G boring.
It beats being a clueless dumb C. :p

Why didn't you think Hoori was the D?

I mean she was in as much danger as I was when Ocelot intervened.
At first I did. You just made it too obvious for us not to notice you were the D in the last hour when Ocelot voted for me.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
I agree. You have no idea how many times Maddy and radekas gave up through-out the whole game. :p



It beats being a clueless dumb C. :p



At first I did. You just made it too obvious for us not to notice you were the D in the last hour when Ocelot voted for me.
Really? It was intentional btw, the idea was that I would not have been that bold if I were the D in the last hour on day 3, at first I told Ocelot that I'll just disappear when he asks people to vote for you, but then I thought maybe if I acted boldly they'd think I wouldn;t do that if I were the D. :p
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
61,697
Really? It was intentional btw, the idea was that I would not have been that bold if I were the D in the last hour on day 3, at first I told Ocelot that I'll just disappear when he asks people to vote for you, but then I thought maybe if I acted boldly they'd think I wouldn;t do that if I were the D. :p
Really? :D:D:D

It was because of posts like these in the final hours:

Klin suspects me and I still think he's a C. Or to be more specific, the list forces me to believe he's a C.
- That's bullshit from beginning to end, especially after Ocelot's post.

How is it possible that you get two G's in two days, that has got to be the best detective work in the history of mafia :lol:
- Bragging. Typical you.

@Ocelot,

Where is you nigga? Either you're being slow with your info and its just some strategy, but you need to give us some direction here.
- And a few minutes late, Ocelot comes with the bang. :touched:
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
@Klin, You make it look so simple and in that you take away from the great job done by both yous and Fred. Fred hid himself pretty well. I never suspected him to be the detective so it was a great piece of mafia work by you guys to figure him out.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
61,697
@Klin, You make it look so simple and in that you take away from the great job done by both yous and Fred. Fred hid himself pretty well. I never suspected him to be the detective so it was a great piece of mafia work by you guys to figure him out.
I never did neither. I already said that Fred played it excellently, both publicly and through PMs with the Gs. If I were him I would not have acted the way he did in the last hours though. We didn't have a clue before that about him being the D.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
Really? :D:D:D

It was because of posts like these in the final hours:



- That's bullshit from beginning to end, especially after Ocelot's post.



- Bragging. Typical you.



- And a few minutes late, Ocelot comes with the bang. :touched:
The first post, we hadn't thought you were a G yet.

The other two though :p I initially told Ocelot that I'd disappear when he came and outed you, but then in the heat of the moment I thought why don't I just be bold, so he'd think I'm too bold to be the D and go for Hoori instead. When you guys whacked me, me and Ocelot became convinced that Hoori was one of you guys, and despite the fact that I investigated Maddy because we thought initially he was closer to being a G, we had decided to go for Hoori the next day because she wasn't whacked.

Two errors of judgment on my side in hindsight of course, the first was me being too loud in the last hours even though we expected I might be whacked because Ocelot saved me(and hoori) in the last hour, the second was the assumption we made that if Hoori wasn't whacked we'd go for her instead of Maddy(which wouldn't have happened if you guys didn't whack me:mad:

All in all, the first three days were enjoyable imo, the C's killed it after that being inactive, which I thought was strange, because they should be excited in getting the recruiter and crooked cop in the first three days.

The usual good players, Ocelot, you, Hoori, Maddy and the rest did well of course. But a shout out has to go to Radekas and the underrated Ragazza, she was actually one of the few trying to make sense out of things from the C's side, radekas did very well as a G too.

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I never did neither. I already said that Fred played it excellently, both publicly and through PMs with the Gs. If I were him I would not have acted the way he did in the last hours though. We didn't have a clue before that about him being the D.
It really was supposed to be reverse psychology, in hindsight that was an unnecessary risk that I took, I should have stuck to the initial strategy of disappearing when Ocelot came and made his announcement. I made the assumption that you guys already suspected me, so I tried to use reverse psychology by being too bold to the point you guys would think that it has to be Hoori.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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The first post, we hadn't thought you were a G yet.

The other two though :p I initially told Ocelot that I'd disappear when he came and outed you, but then in the heat of the moment I thought why don't I just be bold, so he'd think I'm too bold to be the D and go for Hoori instead. When you guys whacked me, me and Ocelot became convinced that Hoori was one of you guys, and despite the fact that I investigated Maddy because we thought initially he was closer to being a G, we had decided to go for Hoori the next day because she wasn't whacked.

Two errors of judgment on my side in hindsight of course, the first was me being too loud in the last hours even though we expected I might be whacked because Ocelot saved me(and hoori) in the last hour, the second was the assumption we made that if Hoori wasn't whacked we'd go for her instead of Maddy(which wouldn't have happened if you guys didn't whack me:mad:

All in all, the first three days were enjoyable imo, the C's killed it after that being inactive, which I thought was strange, because they should be excited in getting the recruiter and crooked cop in the first three days.

The usual good players, Ocelot, you, Hoori, Maddy and the rest did well of course. But a shout out has to go to Radekas and the underrated Ragazza, she was actually one of the few trying to make sense out of things from the C's side, radekas did very well as a G too.
If only you could see the panic in our PMs when we saw that Ocelot was protected. :rofl:

Yeah, I liked how Ragazza played. She seems like a natural. :tup: I saw two different sides to radekas. The panicky and hectic one through PMs and the conservative, sneaky and cautious one in the game itself. He's just so unlucky in this game though. :lol: He was whacked as a D in his first day in another game and now on his first whack as a G, we whacked the BG.

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It really was supposed to be reverse psychology, in hindsight that was an unnecessary risk that I took, I should have stuck to the initial strategy of disappearing when Ocelot came and made his announcement. I made the assumption that you guys already suspected me, so I tried to use reverse psychology by being too bold to the point you guys would think that it has to be Hoori.
Yeah, yeah. You overestimated us, right. Fuck you, Fred.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
@Klin, You make it look so simple and in that you take away from the great job done by both yous and Fred. Fred hid himself pretty well. I never suspected him to be the detective so it was a great piece of mafia work by you guys to figure him out.
This game had the advantage of the G's having very good players and a really good team, and the special roles, the important ones at least falling to experienced players as well. Its too bad people weren't active, I really thought this game had the potential to be one of the best.

Oh and btw, as a normal C, sometimes you make very good arguments and do well in general to avoid all the paranoia, but still get lynched because of other people's paranoia. Thats what happened to you, iirc you were the only one to suspect X, you also made very good point on Soren's reaction, you were completely right about Joker and you were right about Klin too on the day he got lynched before Ocelot outed him. So in hindsight you actually did very well, but as a normal C, sometimes that doesn't matter and you get lynched just because you make very good points :D

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If only you could see the panic in our PMs when we saw that Ocelot was protected. :rofl:

Yeah, I liked how Ragazza played. She seems like a natural. :tup: I saw two different sides to radekas. The panicky and hectic one through PMs and the conservative, sneaky and cautious one in the game itself. He's just so unlucky in this game though. :lol: He was whacked as a D in his first day in another game and now on his first whack as a G, we whacked the BG.

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Yeah, yeah. You overestimated us, right. Fuck you, Fred.
I always overestimate everyone ask Alen :D I always think there are elaborate conspiracies behind every small action. But I have to say, you guys didn't fall for the reverse psychology, I thought Hoori must have been a G when you guys got me. I've said it before, but really kudos for seeing through all the bullshit. You show me those posts that made you guys know I was the D, on another day and with other people they could have easily thought a D couldn't be this bold in the last hours, and go for Hoori instead.
 

Ragazza

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Jul 22, 2013
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But a shout out has to go to Radekas and the underrated Ragazza, she was actually one of the few trying to make sense out of things from the C's side, radekas did very well as a G too.
Yeah, I liked how Ragazza played. She seems like a natural. :tup:
Thanks. I got worried at first I was going to be lynched early because people were noticing I was overanalyzing stuff, I'm still getting a hang of the game and how not to make yourself look suspicious. I think a lot of it, especially later in the game when Salvo was going after me, was because I was one of the few who still seemed genuinely interested and I was just trying to spark conversation. And I had five days in a row off from work so I had nothing to do but play mafia.

And a couple times because I was unsure about rules and strategies, I still don't quite get what Salvo was talking about when I was trying to use 89man as an alibi for me being a C :D

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Though I do think I ended up putting myself in a good position to stay alive in the end. I always had one or two people suspecting me, which I imagine kept me from being whacked because there was a greater chance every day I'd be lynched, as opposed to someone nobody suspected. But as long as there was always someone acting more suspicious than me, I was safe from lynching too.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
@Fred

We knew Hoori can't be the D because she was jailed on day 1 and the investigation took place anyway.
Yeah, early in the day it was between joker, enron, salvo and fred as I recall.

As the day went on Fred became more and more clear.

Despite the slight doubt there always is there, I had the impression we were pretty confident Fred was the D.

I did send the whack 30 minutes before deadline as I recall.

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Just found an early PM from the day we whacked Fred :D

By the way: We did recruit between Ocelot, Fred and X, right?

We got X. Obviously a 50/50. Unless Fred is the D. Then it was 1/1 on X.

Doesn't say a lot, but still.. Prefect did return quick with his recruitment :p
 

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