LA COPPA: Juventus - Siena (11 Viewers)

kaizer

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Nov 1, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by dpforever ] ++

Another great performer was Chimenti, he made incredible saves that would’ve made Gigi proud. Our central defence of Tudor-Legro wasn’t really tested but what was Tudor thinking with the handball? He was lucky he wasn’t sent-off.
maybe chimenti shud replace buffon in the starting 11.....:devil:
 

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Hydde

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++ [ originally posted by dpforever ] ++
Fine performance by our boys that led to a deserved place in the Coppa Italia quarter-finals against Cosmi's Perugia. The only setback is that the Delle Alpi was deserted and Di Vaio is back to missing chances!!

On a more positive note, Del Piero looked very sharp in the match, scored a goal, hit the post and made some great moves with the ball. Conte had a good match too and it's not just about that terrific backheel that nearly went in. Appiah and Camoranesi also seem returning to their form and now Lippi will have a serious headache in selecting the team to face Lecce, which is only a good thing (too many available options to choose from).

Another great performer was Chimenti, he made incredible saves that would’ve made Gigi proud. Our central defence of Tudor-Legro wasn’t really tested but what was Tudor thinking with the handball? He was lucky he wasn’t sent-off.

Udinese-Bologna are playing as we speak, but Im looking forward to tonight's Samp-Milan match.
Its cool to see Chimenti doing good averaged performances! :D
Good to see appiah and Camoranesi improving too, specially Camo that was in a slump!.

But the perfect news is that Del Piero is slowing regaining form and soon he will be back, if he is not already back ;) :thumb:
 

kaizer

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Trust me, he IS back!! :)
yea....if not for lippi benching him, IMO he wont be match-fit this fast. maybe all he needed was competition for starting role...and a kick on his back-side :D
 

aressandro10

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++ [ originally posted by dpforever ] ++


Trust me, he IS back!! :)
maybe one match too late.... he is a reserve now ;)

wishing him to win back his place meaning also wishing Miccoli to sucks..
nope... a Juve fan shoultnt couldnt wouldnt do that... and i think the battle is between Dp and Miccoli.. both of them in the same field is just too.. weaklish .... and some excuse to put Dp in coz they know MIccoli's is red hot right now...
 

Hydde

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++ [ originally posted by kaizer ] ++


yea....if not for lippi benching him, IMO he wont be match-fit this fast. maybe all he needed was competition for starting role...and a kick on his back-side :D
My thoughts exactly!!


I just cant imagine those moments in the bench with zalayeta whispering in his ear "Now u know how it feels eh?" :D
 

Hydde

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++ [ originally posted by aressandro10 ] ++


maybe one match too late.... he is a reserve now ;)

wishing him to win back his place meaning also wishing Miccoli to sucks..
nope... a Juve fan shoultnt couldnt wouldnt do that... and i think the battle is between Dp and Miccoli.. both of them in the same field is just too.. weaklish .... and some excuse to put Dp in coz they know MIccoli's is red hot right now...
Definitely a difficult task... but i think that in this upcoming lecce game... Lippi will use both on the field. I think that we have at least to try it. BOth are scoing and it seems like DP want to show something after his days in the bench.


But Micco cannot be benched because he is our most in form attacker now, together with DP.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Which is why all of this talk about Trez going to Chelsea isn't making much sense to me.

Right now, when on form, DP is the most consistent of the strikers that we have. He is also the most creative, so if he's not scoring goals, then he's trying to create chances. The only other one who replicates that is Miccoli, but since they are so alike, I don't think you could play them at the same time. Zala will never get significant minutes in important matches, and he's probably resigned to that.

Di Vaio is too hot and cold, and when he's not scoring goals, he's trying to create chances, but that's not his strong suit.

Trez fills a role. Juve knows that technically speaking, he may not be the strongest out of the bunch, but his height is a big advantage for him, and Juve puts him in a position to succeed. Sure, he misses chances, (Sometimes lots of them), but the Juve attack, IMO, wouldn't be the same if Trez was gone. This is not a very big team, and his height is crucial.
 

dpforever

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++ [ originally posted by aressandro10 ] ++
wishing him to win back his place meaning also wishing Miccoli to sucks..
nope... a Juve fan shoultnt couldnt wouldnt do that... and i think the battle is between Dp and Miccoli.. both of them in the same field is just too.. weaklish ....

why not:

..................... (DV/Trez).................

.......(DP).......(NEDD)......(MICCO)...



either Del Piero or Miccoli could push forward to (ocassionally) partner DV ..
 

Hydde

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--------------Buff----------------
Biri-------Legro---Iuliano----zambrota

--------Apiah--------Maresca--------

Micc---------Nedved-----------DP-

---------------De Vaio---------------

We can at least try :thumb:
 

denco

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Jul 12, 2002
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All that needs to be said has been said already with a few extra from me

Dp was good but thats the way he is anyways , I don't think he has any point to prove to anyone and as the journalist for corriere della sport said , Dp does not get dropped, he is either carrying a knock or has told the manager he does not want to start, before you start crying blue murder its done in every team, you ask your key players if they wanna play or u kindly rest them for their own good but never drop a key player because you feel he is in bad form, that never happens

Davids was excellent for me and its criminal for him not to start our games

Appiah aside from the pass to Dp was poor and if I was the manager , I won't pick him

Tudor was not good and to give away such a needless penalty just makes me wonder why he is highly rated by some ppl as the onlt thing he has going for himself as far as i can see is his height

Leggrotaglie did not feel me with confidence either and has to do a lot better if he wants a first team place back

Di Vaio again was pants, 45 mins of not being able to hold on to the ball or doing anything significant

The most baffling aspect of Juventus is the inability to pass the ball to thier colleagues

Its incredible the amount of players we have that cannot make a 10 yard pass

Camoranesi was alright, showed some lovely skills but still holds on to the ball a fraction too much at times

Zalayeat seems to be better on the wings than anywhere else but still holds on to the ball when he should pass but he did better than Dv
 

kaizer

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Nov 1, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++
Trez fills a role. Juve knows that technically speaking, he may not be the strongest out of the bunch, but his height is a big advantage for him, and Juve puts him in a position to succeed. Sure, he misses chances, (Sometimes lots of them), but the Juve attack, IMO, wouldn't be the same if Trez was gone. This is not a very big team, and his height is crucial.
nicely sed...! :D

like hydde sed, we @least try playing DP and micco together....see how it works out
 

KB824

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nicely sed...! :D

like hydde sed, we @least try playing DP and micco together....see how it works out

What concerns me is playing Appiah and Maresca alone back there in midfield.

Maybe in a year or so, Appiah would be ready to handle that role, but for right now, I would want to see Davids, although his time here is very limited, and to a lesser extent, Tacchinardi, palying alongside Maresca.

Also, wouldn't playing that far back limit the chances for Maresca to create?
 

kaizer

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++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++
What concerns me is playing Appiah and Maresca alone back there in midfield.

Maybe in a year or so, Appiah would be ready to handle that role, but for right now, I would want to see Davids, although his time here is very limited, and to a lesser extent, Tacchinardi, palying alongside Maresca.
since tacchi is out, so davids wud surely be the better option than appiah IMO....


Also, wouldn't playing that far back limit the chances for Maresca to create?
yes it wud, but during that parma game...he still dishes out assist to DP from which he scored :D but then he has to race back to defend as well. IMO it's good to play maresca, coz we have other option for offense rather than just nedved
 

Hydde

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I didnt saw today´s game... but if davids was better than appiah... then dont think twice... lets put better davids.
 
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    The sucky thing about both DP and Micco hitting top form at the same time is that they cannot co-exist in Lippi's new 3-4-1-2 system. Playing both Alex and Fab would mean switching back to 4-2-3-1, and we seem to leak goals most when using that tactic.
     

    Martin

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    The game was a joke to the supporters, the stadium completely empty today. And you can't tell if DP's goal was offside cause there's no footage of it.
     

    aressandro10

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    why not:

    ..................... (DV/Trez).................

    .......(DP).......(NEDD)......(MICCO)...



    either Del Piero or Miccoli could push forward to (ocassionally) partner DV ..

    that would be a 4231.. its a fan favourite tactic as we can put the most attacking talent withour risking defense... but after months of testing i can safely think that tjat tactic is not the best there is...


    both Miccoli and Dp hit their form while played up front...and i am sooo loooking forward for Lippi to tick and see more wih the 3 4 1 2....:undecide:
     
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    Lippi: “We’ll try to win everything”
    18 12 2003

    Marcello Lippi (La Presse)

    Three victories in eight days but also three goals reached in the same time: after the first place in Goup D in Champions League, the return to a victory in Serie A, today Juventus has also reached Coppa Italia quarterfinals, having beaten twice Siena for 2-1.

    It’s the proof that Juventus wants to win all the trophies, as Lippi explained: “Juventus will try to win everything, trying to go on in all the competitions. Today’s team? We have a great group with many players of high level who could have played today, like Del Piero, who scored and did many other good things. A bad December? Now things are getting better, let’s see on Sunday how the month will finish”.

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    well if we DO use alex & miccoli together and use the 4231 formation.. we might leak goals but we might score more too ;) but thats not safe for europe, we could use that probably in serie a
     

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