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GordoDeCentral

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Im not blaming Buffon or Trez for anything. Best in the world so far this season. The fact they have been great for many years or that he is proven in big stages really dont matter when we talk about this season. Its like - Kaka is the best player in the world, but he isnt even in Serie A starting 11. Buffon is the best keeper in Serie A, but he isnt even bench warmer if we talk about this seasons best goalies, cuz he just isnt playing in big games as much as others (Casillias, Chech, VDS, ...). We see how great the player is in big games not against Siena or Empoli, so we have very few Buffon games to compare against the guys listed higher in my post.
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Alen

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but he isnt even bench warmer if we talk about this seasons best goalies, cuz he just isnt playing in big games as much as others (Casillias, Chech, VDS, ...). We see how great the player is in big games not against Siena or Empoli, so we have very few Buffon games to compare against the guys listed higher in my post.
Man, this is really bad argument.

What are the big games Casillas played ? Barcelona, Sevilla, maybe Valencia and Atletico Madrid (i don't think the matches in CL against Lazio, Werder and Olympiacos are matches against big teams).

Are Barcelona, Valencia and Sevilla bigger than Inter, Milan and Roma ?

Chech and VDS play against Arsenal, Manchester/Chelsea and Liverpool. The other English teams are hardly better than Fiorentina or Udinese
 

Oggy

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Dec 27, 2005
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@pitbull: are you high or something???

Every person in the world no matter what team he support will admit that Gigi is world no.1

And I tottaly agree that Trez is best finisher not striker.

However naming Cambiasso as a best DM is simply ridicoulus...
 

Snoop

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he probably missed our games against Lazio and Milan. If you put Casillas Cech and Van der Saar in one goal they wouldn't make those saves!
 

Vinman

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-> juve4eva&fred

Im not blaming Buffon or Trez for anything. Best in the world so far this season. The fact they have been great for many years or that he is proven in big stages really dont matter when we talk about this season. Its like - Kaka is the best player in the world, but he isnt even in Serie A starting 11. Buffon is the best keeper in Serie A, but he isnt even bench warmer if we talk about this seasons best goalies, cuz he just isnt playing in big games as much as others (Casillias, Chech, VDS, ...). We see how great the player is in big games not against Siena or Empoli, so we have very few Buffon games to compare against the guys listed higher in my post.
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Fred

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@pitbull: are you high or something???

Every person in the world no matter what team he support will admit that Gigi is world no.1

And I tottaly agree that Trez is best finisher not striker.

However naming Cambiasso as a best DM is simply ridicoulus...
:agree:
 

pitbull

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oh, seems like here its hard to have other opinions than the pro-juve one :) anyway, my explination will be short and maybe too short, but what i wanted to say is, top goalie is rated after his performances in cl, nt and league. if buffon isnt in cl and plays for league were 6 or 7 teams is in CL level (in EPL this number is 9 or even 10, same la liga), than he misses too much to be rated between guys who plays twice as much games and have to make twice as much stable performances. we can just imagine how would he do. anyway, sounds like i have to improve my english, almost no one got my point. :D
 
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You could argue that there are 9-10 teams at Champions League level in Serie A as well.

Buffon has been in the Champions League many times before as well, like Turk pointed out, and he actually won an award out of it.
 

Fred

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oh, seems like here its hard to have other opinions than the pro-juve one :) anyway, my explination will be short and maybe too short, but what i wanted to say is, top goalie is rated after his performances in cl, nt and league. if buffon isnt in cl and plays for league were 6 or 7 teams is in CL level (in EPL this number is 9 or even 10, same la liga), than he misses too much to be rated between guys who plays twice as much games and have to make twice as much stable performances. we can just imagine how would he do. anyway, sounds like i have to improve my english, almost no one got my point. :D

1) you do realize i am not a juve fan..so i cant possibly be biased to Juve or Buffon for that matter, but he has consistently proven himself to be the best keeper in the world..whether it was the CL, Serie A or the WC..2 years of no CL football, because of a non football related matter...doesnt change that.


2) Are you saying..that Almunia or Victor Valdes for example are better goalkeepers than Buffon this season just because they play in epl\la liga and the CL too??

3) your English is just fine mate:)
 

pitbull

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1) you do realize i am not a juve fan..so i cant possibly be biased to Juve or Buffon for that matter, but he has consistently proven himself to be the best keeper in the world..whether it was the CL, Serie A or the WC..2 years of no CL football, because of a non football related matter...doesnt change that.


2) Are you saying..that Almunia or Victor Valdes for example are better goalkeepers than Buffon this season just because they play in epl\la liga and the CL too??

3) your English is just fine mate:)
1) actually no. arsenal?
2) they are between best goalies this season. buffon isnt, because juve arent between best teams this season (in cl). of course everyone has his opinion and this is just mine, im not trying to be buda or jesus.

about quality teams in england and italy - 7., 8., 9. and 10. place in EPL and Serie A.

Napoli < Pourtsmouth
Atalanta < Aston Villa
Sampdoria ~ West Ham (really havent seen much of these teams this season)
Catania < Blackburn
 
Jul 2, 2006
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1) actually no. arsenal?
2) they are between best goalies this season. buffon isnt, because juve arent between best teams this season (in cl). of course everyone has his opinion and this is just mine, im not trying to be buda or jesus.

about quality teams in england and italy - 7., 8., 9. and 10. place in EPL and Serie A.

Napoli < Pourtsmouth
Atalanta < Aston Villa
Sampdoria ~ West Ham (really havent seen much of these teams this season)
Catania < Blackburn

Palermo>Blackburn
Fiorentina>West Ham
Udinese>Porstmouth
Lazio=Aston Villa
 

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Pitbull, u should be shot and hanged for this blasphemy you're saying. Shot and hanged. To question Buffon's ability? To think for a second he's not the #1 keeper in the world, for a number of years already, is simply ludicrous and it only makes me question your sanity. Sorry for being so blunt and direct but that's the way it is. If there's one player in Juventus currently that's exempt from being questioned over his ability, it's Buffon. No one in the world comes close to this guy. End of story.
 
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L’Equipe Team of the Year in full:


Buffon (Juventus), D. Alves (Sevilla), Vidic (Manchester Utd), Gallas (Arsenal), Evra (Manchester Utd); Kakà (Milan), Fabregas (Arsenal), Gerrard (Liverpool), C. Ronaldo (Manchester Utd); Drogba (Chelsea), Van Nistelrooy (Real Madrid)
 
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