Israeli-Palestinian conflict (1,331 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

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GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Regarding the US-Israel-Iran situation he provides good background on it that I haven't seen before. Maybe others have predicted correctly but he puts it together in a way high school students can get it.

He seems to think the US will want to put boots on the ground in Iran, which will be a trap for them. Among other things.

It's a bit simplistic imo and fails to address who are the real movers and shakers, I mean when he says "the US will want" whats the US? Israel lobby? Military industrial complex? Banks? CIA? A combination? Or a completely shadowy actor nobody knows?

Additionally the map is a game of chess, all pieces are pretty much set in how they can move, it's not like there are numerous possible scenarios, and it would take a catalysmic event to rock the board and reset the pieces.

For reference:

 

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X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Yeah I think so too. It's very convenient how and when they choose to "expose" certain things.

Also, a channel on YT I started binging lately...


It may seem sensational. But it's a Chinese history professor analyzing geopolitics and history, relating to a lot of the stuff going on now. Very knowledgeable and insightful, and popular all of a sudden because predictions he made over a year ago seem to be coming true. Could also be a psyop though lol.

Hopefully he's not right about US civil war predictions though :hihi:
He came out of nowhere, says all the things popular conspiracy oriented folks want to here, just seems a little too engineered. Could be he's just a grifter but idk seems like a lot of folks like him, Danny Jones, Julian Dorey that seem like ops to me.

btw you might like Chris Hedges Youtube channel
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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i have no idea how authentic this clip is. either way, what israel has been doing to the palestine people crossed every possible line already. they should face consequences, just like their enablers
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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i have no idea how authentic this clip is. either way, what israel has been doing to the palestine people crossed every possible line already. they should face consequences, just like their enablers
But they won’t. That is unfortunately the reality. Prime ministers will condemn what a rapper chanted on stage, but not the army that is killing children indiscriminately. The only reason someone like Putin gets called out is because he’s not an ally. Allies can do whatever the fuck they want.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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But they won’t. That is unfortunately the reality. Prime ministers will condemn what a rapper chanted on stage, but not the army that is killing children indiscriminately. The only reason someone like Putin gets called out is because he’s not an ally. Allies can do whatever the fuck they want.
i hope that it changes. bernie has been very vocal on israel's war crimes lately. if (big if) dems take back the house and senate after the mid terms, i expect actions too from them
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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i hope that it changes. bernie has been very vocal on israel's war crimes lately. if (big if) dems take back the house and senate after the mid terms, i expect actions too from them
That's where you and I disagree. Bernie is not a democrat, not in the way the rest of the party is. The democrats won't do shit. Biden gave more concessions to Israel than any president before him. Kamala called for ceasefire once before she was confirmed as the nominee and then shut up. It wasn't the Trump admin that shut down campus protests either. If you read reporting around the inner workings of the Biden administration and Biden himself, you'll find that Biden uncharacteristically didn't give a shit about Palestinian children. I say uncharacteristically because he's supposed to be very fond and kind towards children in general and is by all accounts a very loving father. I don't remember where I read the article, I'd have shared it otherwise. And it's not just the US. It isn't much better in Europe either. Western values, morals and human dignity is brought up when it's convenient, and almost always only applies to people living here. No one (in western government) gives a shit about the Palestinians or the Yemenis for that matter. What was really telling for example was Zelensky coming out in support of Israel's right to defend itself when they were flattening Gaza in the aftermath of October 7th. That irony perfectly sums up the foreign policy of the west.
All that said, I am thankful for people like you here and independent experts and political pundits who despite the gigantic (and to me something that seems insurmountable) task in front of them, continues to stay true to their beliefs and morals and continues to voice their opinion and inform their peers and the public.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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That's where you and I disagree. Bernie is not a democrat, not in the way the rest of the party is. The democrats won't do shit. Biden gave more concessions to Israel than any president before him. Kamala called for ceasefire once before she was confirmed as the nominee and then shut up. It wasn't the Trump admin that shut down campus protests either. If you read reporting around the inner workings of the Biden administration and Biden himself, you'll find that Biden uncharacteristically didn't give a shit about Palestinian children. I say uncharacteristically because he's supposed to be very fond and kind towards children in general and is by all accounts a very loving father. I don't remember where I read the article, I'd have shared it otherwise. And it's not just the US. It isn't much better in Europe either. Western values, morals and human dignity is brought up when it's convenient, and almost always only applies to people living here. No one (in western government) gives a shit about the Palestinians or the Yemenis for that matter. What was really telling for example was Zelensky coming out in support of Israel's right to defend itself when they were flattening Gaza in the aftermath of October 7th. That irony perfectly sums up the foreign policy of the west.
All that said, I am thankful for people like you here and independent experts and political pundits who despite the gigantic (and to me something that seems insurmountable) task in front of them, continues to stay true to their beliefs and morals and continues to voice their opinion and inform their peers and the public.
i hear you but they can't keep opposing their voters forever (and let's ignore the bs that everyone criticizing a genocide is automatically antisemitic)

 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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https://www.dw.com/en/journalist-union-condemns-israeli-settler-attack-on-dw/a-73176492

Israeli settlers chased DW (Deutsche Welle) reporters and threw stones at them. Class. :touched:

"The German Journalists' Association (DJV) expressed concern following an attack on DW employees in the occupied West Bank.

"It is unacceptable that radical settlers are hunting down media professionals with impunity. This must not remain without consequences," said Federal Chairman Mika Beuster on Sunday.

The statement comes after a DW correspondent and cameraman came under attack from Israeli settlers in the West Bank village of Sinjil in the on Friday.
The settlers threw stones and chased the team. Both got away unharmed, but their car was badly damaged.

Several other news organizations were present at the time of the attack, including French news agency AFP, the New York Times and the Washington Post. Palestinian journalists also had to flee.

The journalists were wearing marked press jackets."


Germany's ambassador to Israel, Steffen Seibert, also expressed his concern in a post on X.

"The freedom of press and the safety of journalists must be guaranteed," he wrote.


I'm SURE Israel is gonna look into this :lol3:
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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https://www.dw.com/en/journalist-union-condemns-israeli-settler-attack-on-dw/a-73176492

Israeli settlers chased DW (Deutsche Welle) reporters and threw stones at them. Class. :touched:

"The German Journalists' Association (DJV) expressed concern following an attack on DW employees in the occupied West Bank.

"It is unacceptable that radical settlers are hunting down media professionals with impunity. This must not remain without consequences," said Federal Chairman Mika Beuster on Sunday.

The statement comes after a DW correspondent and cameraman came under attack from Israeli settlers in the West Bank village of Sinjil in the on Friday.
The settlers threw stones and chased the team. Both got away unharmed, but their car was badly damaged.

Several other news organizations were present at the time of the attack, including French news agency AFP, the New York Times and the Washington Post. Palestinian journalists also had to flee.

The journalists were wearing marked press jackets."


Germany's ambassador to Israel, Steffen Seibert, also expressed his concern in a post on X.

"The freedom of press and the safety of journalists must be guaranteed," he wrote.


I'm SURE Israel is gonna look into this :lol3:
Well, Israel has the right to defend herself so the reporters needs to be bombed.
 

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