Israeli-Palestinian conflict (37 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,280
I Am Arabic, and Muslim
USA and all other nations
have the right to work for their own interests

And if there is any one to be blamed for the latest/previous Zionists massacre then its the Arabs themselves
Our weakness is to be blamed
Our easy acceptance to be humiliated is to be blamed


cant expect/ask the others to respect us, while we are masters in self-humiliation
Power is the only tools that can force the others to respect and accept you as a reality that you have to deal with
we have the power, but its not to defend our selves, not to force the others to respect us, not to stop the others from taking away our rights
the power we have is to insure the safety of the royal families rolling our countries
and to assure their ability to survive as long as they can, and most important thing
is to protect Israel and other enemies from the anger of their own ppl when they see the heart-braking photos and videos
coming from Gaza every few minutes

Sorry for my bad English
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,027
When will america get a great president again
@Bjerknes
The next great President will neither be a Republican or a Democrat, I can tell you that much.

I don't trust Rand Paul like his father but he is much better than any alternative out there at this point.

Obama is great. Tea Party Murica is just too dumb to notice.
What exactly do you know about my country? Please stick to your own politics. I don't tell you to vote for one party or another in Denmark or wherever you're from.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
32,051
I"m just pissed off. But if the US had this somehow backfire against them, they shouldnt act as if they were innocent.

Al quaida has to be happy as $#@!, this is excellent for them to recruit new suicide bombers who lost all their family
We all are. Also, as you will see in this thread, our government's actions don't always reflect the will of the people unfortunately.

Israel are just creating another generation to hate them.

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Obama is great. Tea Party Murica is just too dumb to notice.
Why do you think that?
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
71,077
Problem is he still seems among the best America has to offer.

how do you figure? hes a brilliant speaker, but even that wouldnt have gotten him the presidency had he not been half black. He also straight up killed any hope the young people might have for real 'change', the only thing he got over bush is he didnt start any wars, yet...

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Meh.

Every single president since Kennedy has been a total puppet. It's hard to comment on their actual worth because they submit totally to the establishment.

He's a good actor like Reagan, I'll give him that.
clinton was a really sharp guy.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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clinton was a really sharp guy.
He was certainly very intelligent, you have to be to become a Rhodes scholar.

I dislike him though, especially because of his horrible wife.

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how do you figure? hes a brilliant speaker, but even that wouldnt have gotten him the presidency had he not been half black. He also straight up killed any hope the young people might have for real 'change', the only thing he got over bush is he didnt start any wars, yet...
Europeans tend to have a much more positive view of Obama than us North Americans, mostly because they're far away and he's not Bush.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Kinda agree about Clinton beeing the only decent president since kennedy


Europeans like Obama cause he isnt a radical redneck invading country's.













he's a sophisticated one doing it more suptile
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
Kinda agree about Clinton beeing the only decent president since kennedy
Clinton was pretty much as bad as the other ones, he's as part of the establishment as it gets. Just the repeal of Glass-Steagall alone suffices to destroy his 'legacy.' He was successful economically mostly because of the internet boom. NAFTA wasn't great for American workers as well and it empowered multinational corporations, which is bad.

We've agreed that he's a very intelligent guy, which is evident. Unfortunately, he's a corporate tool.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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how do you figure? hes a brilliant speaker, but even that wouldnt have gotten him the presidency had he not been half black. He also straight up killed any hope the young people might have for real 'change', the only thing he got over bush is he didnt start any wars, yet...
From my perspective at least it seems as if Obama is at least trying to do something about issues like health care or inequality, although I am often not sure how much of it is just pure masquerade or if the contrasting forces really are too strong for him to really do anything about it.

Basically Obama talks the talk but doesn't do the walk, however with pretty much everything I hear from other political figures, be it democrats like Clinton or Kerry, and even more so republicans or Ron Paul, it's already the talk I just can't agree with.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
From my perspective at least it seems as if Obama is at least trying to do something about issues like health care or inequality, although I am often not sure how much of it is just pure masquerade or if the contrasting forces really are too strong for him to really do anything about it.

Basically Obama talks the talk but doesn't do the walk, however with pretty much everything I hear from other political figures, be it democrats like Clinton or Kerry, and even more so republicans or Ron Paul, it's already the talk I just can't agree with.
Bingo.

Income inequality will not decrease until Americans destroy Wall Street's, the multinationals' and the defense industry's hold on Washington.
Obama is totally subservient to that system, hence he's not doing anything tangible about it since his masters want to suck the country (and the whole world) dry.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,641
Yeah but that's not something the president by himself can change. There's a system of checks and balances in place, being a president doesn't mean being a king. You represent the country first and foremost and try to work with the House and Congress.

Btw, I think Hillary Clinton would make a great president. I'd rather have the Green Party win obviously but the second best choice would be her.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
Yeah but that's not something the president by himself can change. There's a system of checks and balances in place, being a president doesn't mean being a king. You represent the country first and foremost and try to work with the House and Congress.

Btw, I think Hillary Clinton would make a great president. I'd rather have the Green Party win obviously but the second best choice would be her.
:lol2:
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
Bingo.

Income inequality will not decrease until Americans destroy Wall Street's, the multinationals' and the defense industry's hold on Washington.
Obama is totally subservient to that system, hence he's not doing anything tangible about it since his masters want to suck the country (and the whole world) dry.
I agree with everything you just said, but still think it would be way worse if e.g. two years ago Romney would have won, someone who is very openly and directly supporting the system you just described.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
Yeah but that's not something the president by himself can change. There's a system of checks and balances in place, being a president doesn't mean being a king. You represent the country first and foremost and try to work with the House and Congress.
Yup. The question however is if Obama actually wants and tries to change something and simply lacks the power to make progress against this system of corporate influence and lobbying, or just acts as if.

Btw, I think Hillary Clinton would make a great president. I'd rather have the Green Party win obviously but the second best choice would be her.
While I wouldn't be surprised to see myself preferring her to the eventual winner of the 2016 elections, she still ranks rather low on my list.

Among the at least semi-realistic potential candidates my pick would be Sanders, but I very, very much doubt that he will have an actual chance.
 

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