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Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
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It Turns Out Hamas Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the 3 Israeli Teens After All

When the bodies of three Israeli teenagers, kidnapped in the West Bank, were found late last month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not mince words. "Hamas is responsible, and Hamas will pay," he said, initiating a campaign that eventually escalated into the present conflict in the region.

But now, officials admit the kidnappings were not Hamas's handiwork after all.

Non-plagiarizing BuzzFeed writer Sheera Frenkel was among the first to suggest that it was unlikely that Hamas was behind the deaths of Gilad Shaar, Naftali Frenkel, and Eyal Yifrach. Citing Palestinian sources and experts the field, Frenkel reported that kidnapping three Israeli teens would be a foolish move for Hamas. International experts told her it was likely the work of a local group, acting without concern for the repercussions:

[Gershon Baskin] pointed out that Hamas has earlier this month signed an agreement to form a unity government with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, bridging, for the first time in seven years, the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank and Gaza.

“They will lose their reconciliation agreement with Abbas if they do take responsibility for [the kidnappings],” Baskin added.

Repeated inconsistencies in Israeli descriptions of the situation have sparked debate over whether Israel wanted to provoke Hamas into a confrontation. Israeli intelligence is also said to have known that the boys were dead shortly after they disappeared, but to have maintained public optimism about their safe return to beef up support from the Jewish diaspora. Writing for Al Jazeera, Musa al-Gharbi argued that Israel was deliberately provoking Hamas:

All the illegal and immoral actions related to Operation Brother’s Keeper were justified under the premise of finding and saving the missing teens whom the Israeli government knew to be dead — cynically exploiting the tragedy to whip up public outcry in order to provoke and then confront Hamas. This pattern of deception continues under the ongoing military offensive in Gaza. For example, last week in collaboration with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El Sisi and Abbas, in its efforts to alienate Hamas, Israel announced a bad-faith cease-fire proposal, which Hamas was not consulted on and never agreed to but whose violation supposedly justified Israel’s expansion and intensification of the military campaign into Gaza.

Despite continued negotiations, the violence shows no signs of letting up, and after Thursday night's massive protests in the West Bank, there is still no ceasefire agreement. On Friday, it became clear that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's attempts to broker a seven-day truce were rejected by Israeli officials. Instead, Israel will apparently widen its ground operation in the Gaza Strip, despite international outcry about the civilian death toll. According to unnamed officials, the proposed truce was too generous to Hamas's demands.

Hamas, meanwhile, still hasn't weighed in on the agreement, whose details are being kept secret, but continued to launch rockets into Israel. International peace talks are set to resume in France this weekend, and we're keeping our fingers crossed.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html
i'm not a fan of conspiracey theories however the bolded part in this article feed's the sentiment that indeed this bridging is what is not required at the moment. i might be looking too deep into this point in particular but if the next elections in isreal are down the road it would be a big blow for Netanyahu's chances considering isreal's main objection to sitting down for peace talks was indeed hamas. not to mention should isreal sit on the peace talks table the main topic that will have to be resolved would typically be the settlements which have seen dramatic increase over the past couple of years. to resolve the main issue of settlements would be removing them, which would automatically result in a dive in the popularity of Netanyahu. lets not forget internationally isreal has faced a lot of pressure with regards to the new settlements being built.
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,418
This BBC reporter destroys Regev, the Israeli Spokesman, over this incident.

Broken record from him again of course.

Regev is Goebbels and he loves that role. He probably has pictures of him hanging in his house.

Israeli city council hangs banner: “Israeli soldiers, we are with you! F**k their mom & come home safely to your mom”
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Peace prize material.

Has this been posted: "MSNBC’s Sole Palestinian Voice Rula Jebreal Takes on Pro-Israeli Gov’t Bias at Network & in US Media"?

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/23/msnbcs_sole_palestinian_voice_rula_jebreal
NBC is now the worst of the worst media outlet in the United States. People say Fox News is the worst, but that is complete nonsense now. MSNBC are known for editing tapes in the Trayvon shooting and lying about everyone who has criticisms of Obama. They are the supposed "Liberal" Fox News but on steroids, they are not a serious journalist establishment.

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And what's with all these fuucking traitorous maggot Americans fighting for the IDF over there? Apparently there are like 100 Americans fighting for those fools over there. They should be detained immediately as enemies of the state and water boarded until they develop gills.

Israel's rules of engagement: find a good target with some youngsters, blow it up, send in Regev, claim the Palestinians are responsible for all casualties.

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“All of them have joint citizenship,” Maya Kadosh, Israel’s Houston-based deputy consul to the Southwest United States, told The New York Times. “They are very proud. They are not less American when they serve in the army. They are more American. They feel they protect the values of the place they came from, and they also protect the values of the state of Israel.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/23/1-000-americans-are-serving-in-the-israeli-army-and-they-aren-t-alone.html

Nevermind, it's 1000.

So they are MORE American by serving a foreign military? Really? That makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider the Palestinians are bombing Gaza. These folks are like G. Rossi on steroids and Fukishima fumes.

Disgusting traitors.
 

Tevez10

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2013
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Regev is Goebbels and he loves that role. He probably has pictures of him hanging in his house.



Peace prize material.



NBC is now the worst of the worst media outlet in the United States. People say Fox News is the worst, but that is complete nonsense now. MSNBC are known for editing tapes in the Trayvon shooting and lying about everyone who has criticisms of Obama. They are the supposed "Liberal" Fox News but on steroids, they are not a serious journalist establishment.

- - - Updated - - -

And what's with all these fuucking traitorous maggot Americans fighting for the IDF over there? Apparently there are like 100 Americans fighting for those fools over there. They should be detained immediately as enemies of the state and water boarded until they develop gills.

Israel's rules of engagement: find a good target with some youngsters, blow it up, send in Regev, claim the Palestinians are responsible for all casualties.

- - - Updated - - -

“All of them have joint citizenship,” Maya Kadosh, Israel’s Houston-based deputy consul to the Southwest United States, told The New York Times. “They are very proud. They are not less American when they serve in the army. They are more American. They feel they protect the values of the place they came from, and they also protect the values of the state of Israel.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...n-the-israeli-army-and-they-aren-t-alone.html

Nevermind, it's 1000.

So they are MORE American by serving a foreign military? Really? That makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider the Palestinians are bombing Gaza. These folks are like G. Rossi on steroids and Fukishima fumes.

Disgusting traitors.
I didn't know that, fox is shiit too right :)!
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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I have no world to describe the likes isreal ,usa,england.... I wonder what their response is to events in Gaza?
More than 1,000 Palestinians have been killed in the Israel-Gaza conflict, according to Palestinian medical officials.

 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
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I'm on facebook and this happened when I clicked a link to a blog on the huffington post which was anti-Israel. I'm not screaming conspiracy (or maybe I am :D), but it's mildly interesting. Has anyone else had similar experiences?
 

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