Israeli-Palestinian conflict (170 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

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Apr 12, 2004
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Stop going around in circles. You say in some cases yes? How about this case, were Israel justified in attacking the activists on board?
I don't know, we don't have all the facts, no one does, and no one can say they KNEW ehat happened unless they were on the ship.
Anyone here finds irony in Turkey's condemnation of Israel's acts? Maybe some of the Armenians in the thread have something to say...
Yea, that genocide was not cool either.
 

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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,112
ßüякε;2516149 said:
If a guy comes to your house and says, "I just want to come in and help your sick sister."

And you say, "Dude, I have a gun, and you aren't coming in my house or I'll shoot you."

But the guy starts trying to break into your house and eventually does, and you shoot him, who is at fault?
The ships were intercepted in international waters, you do know that right?

Thats like going over to the guy when he's a block away from your house and shooting him.

Plus thats a bad analogy, how can Palestinians - Israelis be like brother and sister?

You could have made a better analogy by saying, that a thief who has broken and entered into a guys house a long time ago and has a blockade imposed on him, not allowing basic things like food and water in, then come a few people who want to help the rightful owner in the house, the thief, incensed at their desire to help the owner goes over to the street, before the helpers even reach the house and shoots at them.
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,164
The ships were intercepted in international waters, you do know that right?

Thats like going over to the guy when he's a block away from your house and shooting him.

Plus thats a bad analogy, how can Palestinians - Israelis be like brother and sister?

You could have made a better analogy by saying, that a thief who has broken and entered into a guys house a long time ago and has a blockade imposed on him, not allowing basic things like food and water in, then come a few people who want to help the rightful owner in the house, the thief, incensed at their desire to help the owner goes over to the street, before the helpers even reach the house and shoots at them.
And an even better analogy is to say that it benefits the world to kill people.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
Anyone here finds irony in Turkey's condemnation of Israel's acts? Maybe some of the Armenians in the thread have something to say...
If we go by that logic, nobody will be able to condemn anyone else. If France condemns Israel, someone will come out and say, that its ironic of them to do that, because of what they did in Algeria, Tunisia etc. If the US condemns Israel, someone would come out and say its ironic because of Iraq, Vietnam and so on and so on.



ßüякε;2516155 said:
I don't know, we don't have all the facts, no one does, and no one can say they KNEW ehat happened unless they were on the ship.


Yea, that genocide was not cool either.

Going around in circles again. If you're going to take that route, we could use that for about anything, the next time you condemn a suicide bombing, i'll tell you we don't know all the facts too.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Seriously Seven, talk about playing the devils advocate for the heck of it, they are activists against illegal and inhuman city sized prison, protesting against it while coming with human aid ( and they arent som obscecure rebels, the whole international world agrees more or less, Un decreed Gaza blockade IS illegal, the treatment of Gaza IS illegal). How the fuck is it justifiable to kill them??? To boot in International waters????

ßüякε;2516149 said:
If a guy comes to your house and says, "I just want to come in and help your sick sister."

And you say, "Dude, I have a gun, and you aren't coming in my house or I'll shoot you."

But the guy starts trying to break into your house and eventually does, and you shoot him, who is at fault?
Congratulations for the dumbest analogy ever, seriously, so fucking stupid.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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ßüякε;2516155 said:
I don't know, we don't have all the facts, no one does, and no one can say they KNEW ehat happened unless they were on the ship.


Yea, that genocide was not cool either.
Yeah, and an Israeli Knesset member was on board saying that the IDF was shooting at the ship AND wanted a high number of casualties.

Zoabi was on the ship, so she knows what she's talking about.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3897396,00.html

Time to stop making excuses.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
ßüякε;2516178 said:

Are you equating this to a suicide bombing?



Anyway, I don't know that I would condemn any act of killing.

That wasn't my point at all, but now that i come to think of it, why not really?

Both killed innocent people, no? Tell me how the two are different, i'm interested.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
ßüякε;2516183 said:
Why would I do that, I live in an affluent, powerful country.


Shut up, my African.
Well you said more dead people is good for the world. Since you think that way, why not do the world a favor and commit suicide?


You live in an affluent powerful country? What has that got to do with anything?
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,164
Apr 12, 2004
77,164
Well you said more dead people is good for the world. Since you think that way, why not do the world a favor and commit suicide?


You live in an affluent powerful country? What has that got to do with anything?
It means my life is better than many others, so they should commit suicide.

Why don't you and I set up a date and commit suicide together?

:heart:
 

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