Israeli-Palestinian conflict (169 Viewers)
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And in Uganda and Zembabwi, they are internal aproblems too that don't include one people trying to wipe the other one from the Earth.
But some people here just want to keep denying that what is being done by Zionists is something more horrible than anything lese, even more than what the nazis were claimed to do.
But some people here just want to keep denying that what is being done by Zionists is something more horrible than anything lese, even more than what the nazis were claimed to do.
You don't know how wrong you are about that one.
And even if that was the case, it's still not an argument as we are talking about human rights here, right?
I won't insult you for what you said about the Nazis there, ReBeL, but do know that it is a very audacious statement to make. I myself would not quite risk it. A quick look at the sheer number of deaths caused by the Nazis should make you reconsider what you said. Roughly 72 million people died in World War II. The comparison is utterly ridiculous.
And it's not even about the figures. The crimes committed by the Nazis were of quite a different level than the crimes committed by Israel right now. To place them even on the same level is insanity. I don't think you have the faintest idea about the horrors of WWII. Try reading a book about it before you say stuff like this.
The use of the word "claimed" is not smart either.
Do think about what you say next time, please.
And even if that was the case, it's still not an argument as we are talking about human rights here, right?
I won't insult you for what you said about the Nazis there, ReBeL, but do know that it is a very audacious statement to make. I myself would not quite risk it. A quick look at the sheer number of deaths caused by the Nazis should make you reconsider what you said. Roughly 72 million people died in World War II. The comparison is utterly ridiculous.
And it's not even about the figures. The crimes committed by the Nazis were of quite a different level than the crimes committed by Israel right now. To place them even on the same level is insanity. I don't think you have the faintest idea about the horrors of WWII. Try reading a book about it before you say stuff like this.
The use of the word "claimed" is not smart either.
Do think about what you say next time, please.
Well, I intended to use that word to make you go out of the closet as usual because you have disappeared since the articles about killing the Palestinian children and feeding them to dogs were posted. You just claim to care about humanity and treating people respectfully and equally but you clearly rate jews' lives as much higher than Muslims' which is really a very bad thing from somebody that claims to be civilized. When anybody speaks about the holocaust, you come out as if somebody harrassed your ass, but when we talk about chidren being humilated and killed right now live on tv and without any montage, you just come to say: "There are worse things" as an attempt to justify what the Zionists are doing.
Seven, excuse me, but you are nothing but a coward who was all the time filled with the Westren media rubbish and coming here to claim that Western values are much better than anything else although everybody know the West has never brought to the humanity anything but disasters and tragedies from Indonesia in the east to California in the West.
Seven, excuse me, but you are nothing but a coward who was all the time filled with the Westren media rubbish and coming here to claim that Western values are much better than anything else although everybody know the West has never brought to the humanity anything but disasters and tragedies from Indonesia in the east to California in the West.
No its you who has to think about what u say, Pls
Its not about figures you are right
the population of Gaza is about 1500000
Martyrs = more than 1300
Wounded = more than 6000
1300+6000=7300
0.0048 of the total population
Lets assume that the population of the USA is 300 million
then 0.0048 of that number will be 1.400.000
during 3 weeks only
Oversimplification or denying the facts will not change the truth
recalculation done
Its not about figures you are right
the population of Gaza is about 1500000
Martyrs = more than 1300
Wounded = more than 6000
1300+6000=7300
0.0048 of the total population
Lets assume that the population of the USA is 300 million
then 0.0048 of that number will be 1.400.000
during 3 weeks only
Oversimplification or denying the facts will not change the truth
recalculation done
How can you say that I rate jewish lives higher than muslims lives when it's clearly you who rates muslim lives higher? I come up with numbers exactly because I think all lives are equal. If that is the case there is simply no way that you can compare World War II to what is happening in Gaza right now. And come on, you know you can't do that. It's not even close.
I also don't justify the Israeli behaviour. I never did, you just keep on saying I do. But that doesn't have any actual meaning. Don't put words in my mouth. I also never used "worse things happen" as an excuse for what the Israelis are doing now. What I did say is that it seems convenient to me that the muslim world should pick out this one conflict and state that because of this one conflict Israel is the biggest human rights violator on the planet, while it's so painfully obvious that human rights have been violated in the DRC on a daily basis for the last 10 years. But you ignored that. In fact, you didn't even know what I was talking about.
It's funny that you should say that it is wrong of me to rate western values so highly while you are claiming that the Israelis should be punished because of human rights violations. We all know which culture is responsible for that list. Make up your mind, mate. Either you rate western values highly and get to be annoyed when human rights are violated or you don't rate them at all, but don't get to complain.
That is not a correct analogy. Doesn't even merit a response to be honest.
I also don't justify the Israeli behaviour. I never did, you just keep on saying I do. But that doesn't have any actual meaning. Don't put words in my mouth. I also never used "worse things happen" as an excuse for what the Israelis are doing now. What I did say is that it seems convenient to me that the muslim world should pick out this one conflict and state that because of this one conflict Israel is the biggest human rights violator on the planet, while it's so painfully obvious that human rights have been violated in the DRC on a daily basis for the last 10 years. But you ignored that. In fact, you didn't even know what I was talking about.
It's funny that you should say that it is wrong of me to rate western values so highly while you are claiming that the Israelis should be punished because of human rights violations. We all know which culture is responsible for that list. Make up your mind, mate. Either you rate western values highly and get to be annoyed when human rights are violated or you don't rate them at all, but don't get to complain.
That is not a correct analogy. Doesn't even merit a response to be honest.
Iraq
Afghanistan
Palestine
are live examples
Its the democracy from the western point of view
Occupy, and you dont need to justify if
just do it and our media will do the rest
Kill and kill and keep killing, dont worry about it you are a westerner from the other part of the world , the democratic's half
But dont worry bro
whatever they take they give it up next day
Look at what is happening in Afghanistan
The USA army is not controlling more than a small part of Kapul
and its a matter of time to see them quiting out of that country just like the soviets before them
Its a matter of wepons and how powerfull you are
Its about good and bad, right and wrong and thats why they can't win a single war because they are always wrong
Vietnam is another example
dont worry bro
one day that wetern world will realize that their democracy doesnt suites our world
its true that we need to be part of that world "the democratic one" but the western world have to know that we r the one who is responsible and will take of it not them
Afghanistan
Palestine
are live examples
Its the democracy from the western point of view
Occupy, and you dont need to justify if
just do it and our media will do the rest
Kill and kill and keep killing, dont worry about it you are a westerner from the other part of the world , the democratic's half
But dont worry bro
whatever they take they give it up next day
Look at what is happening in Afghanistan
The USA army is not controlling more than a small part of Kapul
and its a matter of time to see them quiting out of that country just like the soviets before them
Its a matter of wepons and how powerfull you are
Its about good and bad, right and wrong and thats why they can't win a single war because they are always wrong
Vietnam is another example
dont worry bro
one day that wetern world will realize that their democracy doesnt suites our world
its true that we need to be part of that world "the democratic one" but the western world have to know that we r the one who is responsible and will take of it not them
I advise you to re-calculate
Edit: Or not
Re-Edit: that makes 1 400 000
Re-Re-Edit: that's a big number
Re-Re-Re-Edit: What is the point?
Edit: Or not
Re-Edit: that makes 1 400 000
Re-Re-Edit: that's a big number
Re-Re-Re-Edit: What is the point?
7 is saying that the number of the palestinians killed and wounded by israel in this conflict is to small to be considered as a genocide and comparing it to the millions killed during WWII
and i just gave him an imaginary example to wake him up
(7300) of Gaza's population got killed and wounded in this conflict so far in 3 weeks only
and that number sounded to small for him
so i wanted to tell him that its not about how many, its about %
so the 7300 = 1.4 million
you are right about the calculation issue i am sorry
I hope u got the point now
Let's do basic maths here. As I am accused of rating muslim lives quite low, I'd like to take a closer look at what ReBeL is presenting us:
a) What the Israelis did now is far worse than what the Nazis did.
b) I don't rate muslims as high.
This is very interesting. Let's say 72 million people died in World War II (it's difficult to get a hold of the true numbers, but this is one of the estimates). The Nazis are of course more or less responsible for these deaths. The latest figures I saw of the Gaza conflict indicated that 1024 Palestinians were killed.
This means that one Palestinian is worth 59 800 normal people according to ReBeL.
And he's accusing me.
Dear god.
a) What the Israelis did now is far worse than what the Nazis did.
b) I don't rate muslims as high.
This is very interesting. Let's say 72 million people died in World War II (it's difficult to get a hold of the true numbers, but this is one of the estimates). The Nazis are of course more or less responsible for these deaths. The latest figures I saw of the Gaza conflict indicated that 1024 Palestinians were killed.
This means that one Palestinian is worth 59 800 normal people according to ReBeL.
And he's accusing me.
Dear god.
check this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
what is happening to the Palestinians is simply up to the task to be qualified as a genocide , no doubts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
what is happening to the Palestinians is simply up to the task to be qualified as a genocide , no doubts