Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (254 Viewers)

[Osman]

Hehe, fucking retarded last pages. Most amusing is that Alen of all people joined this absolutely embecile conspiracy angle. Feeble minded BS.


And oh, fantastic post Hoori. Its pretty sad you even need to say the obvious.

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[SABSAB]

Cancer!

Only after he retires expect a great Juve. He couldn't take the super sub role and that destroyed our season. We had to sell the guy who took his spot so the cancer could play. Now enjoy his incredibly fat ass playing 90 minutes and killing this team.

Used to be gold, now he's murdering Juventus.

I'm really curious about this, the whole cancer talk, is that supposed to be sarcasm? With people like Angela around who actually have cancer?

 

[VicCB]

* Regardless if it is true or not, Diego was considered to be a flop by a large part of the Italian audience (both fans & press)
* We needed some real income from outgoing transfers, selling Diego was one of the only real possibilities.
* For many (myself included) Diego is not an SS. Not a good one anyway. Therefore he was not a perfect fit for our "preferred" formation.
* From the looks of it, we are trying hard to reduce the wage bill & Diego was a pretty big earner.
* ...

Let me go through those explanations:

1. Diego, despite not being a Messi type of revelation, was still the best player we had last year and provided flair and creativity. He became a fan favourite because of it.

2. A paltry 15 million euro for Diego is insulting, we were willing to eat a 10 million loss for nothing. This one doesn't make sense.

3. He was doing really well as a second striker in the pre season games and Del Neri commented on how he provides us with the quality we otherwise don't have, so that explanation goes out of the window.

4. This could be it, I concede that. It would only underline Marotta's incompetence though, getting rid of quality players just because of their wages? Are we Catania?

There are plenty of possible reasons behind his departure. None of us will ever know the entire truth though.

But I really don't think Del Piero played some (active or inactive) role in this entire thing.

Though I do think you have a point when you're talking about certain things that happened in the past, when Del Piero was in his prime. Even though DP's influence was probably mostly subconscious, rather than it being something he asked for or decided.

It isn't difficult to see Del Piero runs the locker room, and with such a big influence outside of the club, I'm sure the board saw it necessary to keep Del Piero happy, compounded with the fact Marotta is a retard, he didn't saw the pre season games and still thought Diego didn't fit into the system.

Whatever, I just want to see this old bastard play well because there's literally no other choice now. May his inexistent pace lead us to something.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He played poorly last match! Sell him off, or send him home!

PS: He looks overweight!

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Let me go through those explanations:

1. Diego, despite not being a Messi type of revelation, was still the best player we had last year and provided flair and creativity. He became a fan favourite because of it.

2. A paltry 15 million euro for Diego is insulting, we were willing to eat a 10 million loss for nothing. This one doesn't make sense.

3. He was doing really well as a second striker in the pre season games and Del Neri commented on how he provides us with the quality we otherwise don't have, so that explanation goes out of the window.

4. This could be it, I concede that. It would only underline Marotta's incompetence though, getting rid of quality players just because of their wages? Are we Catania?

1. You (& others) think he was the best player. Doesn't necessarily make it true. I, for example, don't think he was. And that also does not change the fact that Diego was considered to be a flop by a big part of the (Italian) audience. Like I said, regardless if it was true or not, it's what happened. Fan favourite? Sure, just like Grosso was a fan favourite for some. Or Iaquinta. Or ...

2. First of all, it's not a 10 million loss. Second, we had (& have) very few players who would bring in real money from a transfer. Diego was one of them, maybe that's why he was sacrificed.

3. I haven't seen every game in preseason & I missed one of the EL qualifiers, so I obviously don't have the complete picture. What I did see however was more of the same: Diego trying hard, achieving some success from time to time, dropping back deep and ultimately hurting our attack (no balance whatsoever) as much as helping it. For me, he's no support striker. I've been saying that for a while now, and I don't think I'll ever change my opinion.

4. Would indeed be a weird reason, but who knows.


Look, like I said, I don't know the reasoning behind the deal & I don't claim to either. Alen asked what other reasons there might be for his departure, besides the DP thing, and I gave him a few possibilities.
Now you may not agree with them (neither do I for some), but there's no denying that these are indeed valid possibilities.

 

[Salvatore]

I strongly disagree with those claiming Diego was our best player last season.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It was Del Piero, of course!

 

[icemaη]

Sarcasm detected!!!

Yeah, Diego was hardly our best player last season.

 

[Azzurri7]

It's quite impressive. I've never heard of a dictator who has successfully been able to hide the fact that he's a dictator from the public while still successfully oppressing his political opponents.

Strange what Del Piero is capable of no?

 

[VicCB]

1. You (& others) think he was the best player. Doesn't necessarily make it true. I, for example, don't think he was. And that also does not change the fact that Diego was considered to be a flop by a big part of the (Italian) audience. Like I said, regardless if it was true or not, it's what happened. Fan favourite? Sure, just like Grosso was a fan favourite for some. Or Iaquinta. Or ...

2. First of all, it's not a 10 million loss. Second, we had (& have) very few players who would bring in real money from a transfer. Diego was one of them, maybe that's why he was sacrificed.

3. I haven't seen every game in preseason & I missed one of the EL qualifiers, so I obviously don't have the complete picture. What I did see however was more of the same: Diego trying hard, achieving some success from time to time, dropping back deep and ultimately hurting our attack (no balance whatsoever) as much as helping it. For me, he's no support striker. I've been saying that for a while now, and I don't think I'll ever change my opinion.

4. Would indeed be a weird reason, but who knows.


Look, like I said, I don't know the reasoning behind the deal & I don't claim to either. Alen asked what other reasons there might be for his departure, besides the DP thing, and I gave him a few possibilities.
Now you may not agree with them (neither do I for some), but there's no denying that these are indeed valid possibilities.

1. You're only equating Diego's status with the fans to Iaquinta's and Grosso's just to suit your argument. Juve forums around the world were going fucking nuts about Diego's sale, Grosso leaving would be met with praise or indifference. If you take a look at the goals last season, Diego was involved in most of them, his play was effective and beneficial to the team, so he was in fact our best player last year.

2. Yes it is a 10 million loss. Bought for 25 million, sold for 15, we made a loss for nothing. So we couldn't afford 5 million for the loans of Quaglalalala and Traore? And what about a proper replacement for Diego? That would certainly cost more than 15 fucking million, it's an insulting sum.

3. Despite your personal perception of him, he added to the flow of our game, and the few times he dropped too deep was because our wingers sucked. Del Neri thought he was an element that gave something extra to the team and wanted to keep him, so it's not like sporting wise he was a liability (like old ADP has become).

I'm not even sure it was a question of ego, if Marotta wanted to get rid of Secco's transfers, Melo, Amauri and Sissoko would have been out the door as well.

 

[VicCB]

Sarcasm detected!!!

Yeah, Diego was hardly our best player last season.

Seriously, if not Diego who was our best player? And please don't say Del Piero, he looked pitiful and played like shit last year.

 

[Salvatore]

Seriously, if not Diego who was our best player? And please don't say Del Piero, he looked pitiful and played like shit last year.

Chiellini and Buffon were far more important. Seriously, if you don't think Chiellini was absolutely heroic last season in comparison to Diego then there is something very wrong.

I'd also say Del Piero contributed more to the team in less game time than Diego.

 

[VicCB]

Chiellini and Buffon were far more important. Seriously, if you don't think Chiellini was absolutely heroic last season in comparison to Diego then there is something very wrong.

I'd also say Del Piero contributed more to the team in less game time than Diego.

Buffon, are you kidding? He was in the hospital ward for so long and never got his form back. Chiellini was ok, but the negativity got to him and started doing way too much and forgot about defending at times. As for Del Piero, he did nothing but lose the ball, and "run" with laughable pace, just like against Bari. It's going to be a long season for the old bastard.

Are you sure you don't rate Sissoko highly as well? They both lose about the same amount of balls, maybe that's a metric you are fond of.

Actually, if I remember correctly, the 4 2 3 1 formation was working wonders until Del Piero came back from injury, and the old bastard just had to play. That's when our form began to go but I'm sure people were happy to see him on the pitch, just like yesterday.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Sarcasm detected!!!

Yeah, Diego was hardly our best player last season.

Then who was the best player for Juventus is 2009-10? Poulsen?

 

[icemaη]

Then who was the best player for Juventus is 2009-10? Poulsen?

Yup.

 

[Salvatore]

Buffon, are you kidding? He was in the hospital ward for so long and never got his form back. Chiellini was ok

I give up.

 

[icemaη]

The guy who ran a one man defence and made the scorecard look decent is 'okay'.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

1. You're only equating Diego's status with the fans to Iaquinta's and Grosso's just to suit your argument. Juve forums around the world were going fucking nuts about Diego's sale, Grosso leaving would be met with praise or indifference. If you take a look at the goals last season, Diego was involved in most of them, his play was effective and beneficial to the team, so he was in fact our best player last year.

2. Yes it is a 10 million loss. Bought for 25 million, sold for 15, we made a loss for nothing. So we couldn't afford 5 million for the loans of Quaglalalala and Traore? And what about a proper replacement for Diego? That would certainly cost more than 15 fucking million, it's an insulting sum.

3. Despite your personal perception of him, he added to the flow of our game, and the few times he dropped too deep was because our wingers sucked. Del Neri thought he was an element that gave something extra to the team and wanted to keep him, so it's not like sporting wise he was a liability (like old ADP has become).

I'm not even sure it was a question of ego, if Marotta wanted to get rid of Secco's transfers, Melo, Amauri and Sissoko would have been out the door as well.

1. You're really not going to convince me he was the best player last season. Because he wasn't imo.

2. Review your facts. Bought him for 24,5 (to be paid over 3 years), sold him for 15,5 (to be paid at once). It's not a 10 million loss, still a bad piece of business obviously
http://www.juventus.com/site/filesi...cesensitive/comunicato_26052009_diego_ita.pdf
http://www.juventus.com/site/filesi...cesensitive/comunicato_27082010_diego_ita.pdf

3. I see. My personal perception < your personal perception. You may have liked him as a SS, I did not. Simple as that.


Look man, I don't even know why I keep replying. Alen asked for possible reasons, I gave them. Whether you or Alen or I or Numbnuts from the Drughi agree with them doesn't really matter. But there's no denying that they are indeed possible reasons.

And seeing how difficult is appears to be (for some) to actually read what's being posted, I'm done with this.

 

[VicCB]

I give up.

How many clean score sheets did we have last year for Buffon to be the best? How many points did he earn for us by keeping away goals last year? Not many.

Chiellini had a lot of passion last year, but not having an adequate companion made him lose his cool, gradually lost form and was defending like shit during the last third of the season because he insisted on bombing forward.

 

[icemaη]

Now I know why JCK does what he does.