Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (85 Viewers)

[delp_07]

i totally agree and i still have a strong feeling he will make the trip to germany next year. He has so much to give but little time, i think he wants to retire after he wins world cup and champions league.

 

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[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Excuse me Andy, but I am free to think and state whatever I want.
Besides, Zidane, who did NOT play well during the entire WC 98 (and even got a two-match ban), was HAILED as the hero in his country for his display during the final (Let me draw a parallel with San Siro's showdown - even Lapo Elkann, like everyone else, acknowledged it, that DP was the hero there), even if players like Thuram, Barthez, Djorkaeff, Blanc, Petit gave massive contributions to France's triumph.
You may disagree. But you certainly cannot state that what I said was stupid.
Del Piero is statistically the most decisive player in Serie A, although statistics do not mean everything. I admit that I exaggerated Del Piero's merits, but that was just to emphasize Don Bes's incongruous claims. You find it normal when someone says "Del Piero did nothing the last 5 years", whereas you find my comments "stupid" and not worth debating... What a pity you are so biased, Andy. I had respect for your ideas.

Sure, saying Del Piero did nothing in the past five years is absurd, however I don't care what Don Bes says about this matter because I know he's just fooling around, not being serious. He's tired of this debate, and so am I. The same cannot be said about you and others who sure do a good job of getting the debates going, acting extremely serious and talking nonsense at the same time. That's whats going on here, and it could be avoided if people wouldn't talk such nonsense all the time. Including you, no offense. Why? We wouldn't have to waste time on this shit anymore, unless people like to argue over Del Piero for every minute of their lives.

So Del Piero basically handed us the Scudetto, hmmm. I think that's an insult to the entire squad that played their hearts out this season, having a huge part in our success or just a little, all the way from Zalayeta to Olivera. But that's just my opinion and I'm sure others agree.

It seems like Del Piero is the only person that matters around here.

And every time I come here I have to criticise Del Piero despite my liking for him. See what people can do to others when they talk absolute rubbish? I'm sure I wouldn't be talking nonsense if I said some fans around here make others hate Del Piero, however trivial it sounds.

 

[olkiller]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Sure, saying Del Piero did nothing in the past five years is absurd, however I don't care what Don Bes says about this matter because I know he's just fooling around, not being serious. He's tired of this debate, and so am I. The same cannot be said about you and others who sure do a good job of getting the debates going, acting extremely serious and talking nonsense at the same time. That's whats going on here, and it could be avoided if people wouldn't talk such nonsense all the time. Including you, no offense. Why? We wouldn't have to waste time on this shit anymore, unless people like to argue over Del Piero for every minute of their lives.

So Del Piero basically handed us the Scudetto, hmmm. I think that's an insult to the entire squad that played their hearts out this season, having a huge part in our success or just a little, all the way from Zalayeta to Olivera. But that's just my opinion and I'm sure others agree.

It seems like Del Piero is the only person that matters around here.

And every time I come here I have to criticise Del Piero despite my liking for him. See what people can do to others when they talk absolute rubbish? I'm sure I wouldn't be talking nonsense if I said some fans around here make others hate Del Piero, however trivial it sounds.

I have already admitted I didn't MEAN Del Piero was the only reason why we won the scudetto. It was mere exaggeration. I'm not that blind.

 

[ZAF3000]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



the 97 game had nothing to do with it

Well I was qouting your own words.. Del Piero has played really good seasons after his injury in 1998. The injury was a big blow for his career. Many spectators did not think he will return to even 1/4 of what he was. His first season after the injury he couldn't score any goal if it was not from the spot. I am sure that many Juventini, including myself, believed in him (I have been sporting Juve from late 80s), and scoring that header in the end of the season made us all have tears in our eyes because we knew that our stalion was back.. He never let us down.
Ok I agree he played many games under par, but hey there isn't a player in the world who didn't, including Maradona.

Totti is a very talented player. He has all the physical abilities to become the #1 player in the world, but he lacks the mental or psychological abilities.
The difference between Del Piero and Totti, is that Del Piero get cretisised more when his shot goes of target than totti when he spits on a player.

I am biased torwards Del Piero, thats is just a fact, but I am not blind. When he doesn't play well I say he didn't play well, and I too hail him when he plays well. He is a player that I would not want to leave, not because he will be Juve's top scoere when he scored 8 or 9 more goals, and nor that because he is our captain, and nor that he can intertain you like no-one else.. I want him to stay because he is an idol. Currently, Del Piero is JUVENTUS. He is the SOLE of the team, now this is a fact whether you like it or not. He might not be our best man on the field,, but he represnts to many supporters the sole of the team. And they have all the right to keep him inside their hearts because since he joined Juve back in 1993 he didn't do anything wrong with the team, infact he's been producing wonderful, creative, non-selfish, football, productive football ever since.
Thanks my opinion you are free to disagree.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by ZAF3000 ] ++
Del Piero is JUVENTUS.

here we go again

 

[gray]

Juventus was succesful before Del Piero, and we shall continue to be succesful without him

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
Juventus was succesful before Del Piero, and we shall continue to be succesful without him

but gray, del piero is the most decissive player in seria a. how can we possibly fathom our team without him

 

[Amash]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



but gray, del piero is the most decissive player in seria a. how can we possibly fathom our team without him

We will find someone who will replace him

 

[ebraheej]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



here we go again

Its just an expression, and if you think about it he is Juve's symbol for the past 8 years or so. Also saying that Del Piero is Juventus is not the same as Juventus is Del Piero. The first one just means that he is only a faithful Juve player, and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



but gray, del piero is the most decissive player in seria a. how can we possibly fathom our team without him

And being NOT the most decisive player in Serie a is enough reason to get rid of him....

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by ebraheej ] ++
Its just an expression, and if you think about it he is Juve's symbol for the past 8 years or so. Also saying that Del Piero is Juventus is not the same as Juventus is Del Piero. The first one just means that he is only a faithful Juve player, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Oh please, it's the same thing FFS.

 

[gray]

++ [ originally posted by ebraheej ] ++
Also saying that Del Piero is Juventus is not the same as Juventus is Del Piero.

They are both folly and way off the mark

 

[kthx]

No, I beg to differ.

Del Piero is Juventus whether anyone likes it or not. If any person hears the name Del Piero, the first thing that springs to mind is Juventus. So, over the past decade his name has been associated with Juventus.

Juventus is not Del Piero though. Juventus is bigger than just one player. Whenever anyone hears the word Juventus, some think Del Piero but not all... There was Juve before and there will be Juve after.

But unless Del Piero spends another 7 or 8 years in some other club, his name will always be the main indication of something related to Juve.

 

[gray]

++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++
No, I beg to differ.

Del Piero is Juventus whether anyone likes it or not. If any person hears the name Del Piero, the first thing that springs to mind is Juventus. So, over the past decade his name has been associated with Juventus.

Yes, but association is a very different thing from being.

Again, Del Piero is not Juventus, he's a symbol/icon/hero of the club, but that does not make him the club.

Whoever thinks Del Piero = Juventus is a different thing from Juventus = Del Piero needs to revisit primary school equations

 

[ZAF3000]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



here we go again

dude.. you left the whole post and highlighted this statement.. If you read the post carefully, I was stating from a psychological and emotional point of view. We were successful before Del Piero, we were successful with Del Piero, and hopefully we will be successful after Del Piero.

People always like to blame Del Piero for Juventus's bad performance is certain matches, thats ok if Vice versa is the case. Unfortunately, its not. When Juventus plays well, even if Alex plays well people will say that it was and odd match or they will also say he did not perform.

In my opinion, I think Del Piero should stay, not just because of what I stated before, because he is one of our best forwards.

 

[ZAF3000]

++ [ originally posted by ebraheej ] ++
Its just an expression, and if you think about it he is Juve's symbol for the past 8 years or so. Also saying that Del Piero is Juventus is not the same as Juventus is Del Piero. The first one just means that he is only a faithful Juve player, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Thank you.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++

Yes, but association is a very different thing from being.

Again, Del Piero is not Juventus, he's a symbol/icon/hero of the club, but that does not make him the club.

Whoever thinks Del Piero = Juventus is a different thing from Juventus = Del Piero needs to revisit primary school equations

1+2=2+1

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Excuse me Andy, but I am free to think and state whatever I want.
Besides, Zidane, who did NOT play well during the entire WC 98 (and even got a two-match ban), was HAILED as the hero in his country for his display during the final (Let me draw a parallel with San Siro's showdown - even Lapo Elkann, like everyone else, acknowledged it, that DP was the hero there), even if players like Thuram, Barthez, Djorkaeff, Blanc, Petit gave massive contributions to France's triumph.
You may disagree. But you certainly cannot state that what I said was stupid.
Del Piero is statistically the most decisive player in Serie A, although statistics do not mean everything. I admit that I exaggerated Del Piero's merits, but that was just to emphasize Don Bes's incongruous claims. You find it normal when someone says "Del Piero did nothing the last 5 years", whereas you find my comments "stupid" and not worth debating... What a pity you are so biased, Andy. I had respect for your ideas.

PS: Lapo Elkann said yesterday: "Ma il vero momento da incorniciare e' "la vittoria a San Siro. Splendida, esaltante, che mi ha trasmesso euforia. Ho visto la grande forza morale di Del Piero, quel tocco di gioia, quella meravigliosa piroetta che ci ha permesso di vivere in maiera piu' serena il resto del percorso."

Well Said....

 

[nedved34]

Del piero sux

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++

Yes, but association is a very different thing from being.

Again, Del Piero is not Juventus, he's a symbol/icon/hero of the club, but that does not make him the club.

Whoever thinks Del Piero = Juventus is a different thing from Juventus = Del Piero needs to revisit primary school equations

x=1

1=x

1+x=x+1

All the same shit.