Gsol against the world (2 Viewers)

[Bisco]

Gsol please take your hateful bile and be quiet, i am sure even turk finds your views extreme! everyone here was sickened and saddened by what happened at hesel, just as we were at hilsborough. basically NO football club should have to endure a tragedy on these scales but I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOUR it is extremism of a high order!
i tend not to come down hard on things but i am gonna keep an eye on this thread and any more of this and i will send you for a period of deep reflection. an eye for an eye never solved anything, it only makes us blind to the original problem

i must admit never seen u this pissed off before but i def agree witht he last two sentences in yr post not to mention that book is just class!!!

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

A shirt has writing on it because it's meant to be read. And Inter's a big club in Europe and also teh biggest flop in Europe for the last 20 years. They have been soccer's punchline for as long as I've followed the sport.

And they are stupid for signing a shirt without reading it.

They did steal a title...any jokes you want to crack about that?

Books have writing in them...do you own books you've not read....have you passed books without reading them?

Here: We're so good we don't need to finish first to be first!

My father is an Interista. Two of my friends are as well. We were friends as children though long before we knew what soccer was (like 3 or 4 years old). They aren't allowed to talk to me about soccer including my father.

Any newcomers who tell me they are anything but Juventino will get the cold shoulder. I have a special hatred for Interisti and Liverpool fans though.

Why do you ask?

That explains the hatred, then. All the years of forced sexual misconduct, gang rapes by your pops and his other bear-man friends.

they are undead,you must rip their heads off if you want exterminate them.

That's just not even scientifically possible you retard.

So Turk, are you with killing Inter fans?? i mean would you be happy if you heard that, a few Inter fans were killed in todays match??

I actually would be, but I love death of others, my name is GSOL!

So you think 95% of this forum are better people than your Father...

I hope you were being sarcastic, and that i just didnt get the sarcastic tone, because if that isnt the case..then you are one troubled human being(no offense)

I know I'm better than his family, I just know this.

no he is not troubled person,he choose his own path despite his father.this makes him wiser.gsol's story is similiar of Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker's.

I think same.interisti are special kind of creatures.they have very very ugly soul and this affect their face.I will never forget their celebrations of Agnelli's death.

"and this affect their face" You are a retard.....

none taken

My father is my father. Can't expect me to just throw him into a fan base category.

Frankly I'd rather be troubled than have to associate with Interisti.

So you can't do it to your father, but you do it to everyone else you meet? Not hypocritical at all...

Disgusting thing to say, really. So what if our fans got killed by them? You are prepared to go down to their level to prove that you are no better than what you hate yourself, in that they deserve to die.

You beat me to saying this...

He will now call you an Inter fan.

What a wanker he is....

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

never heard of Juve fans murdering an 11 year old boy. I never said kill all reds either...When they had their tragedy I didn't celebrate it. but if those responsible paid with their life I would call it justice...not low

You are so full of hatred it is disgusting.

disgusting thing is reckless fans

Do you know the meaning of reckless? Because this describes you very well.

hate or don't hate.at least be aware of what they did in past.

Something happened in the past, I am aware of it and I don't want it to happen to anyone anymore. And this will not make me hate them.

Go on and criticize me for hating animals that couldn't hold their liquor and killed Juventus fans ranging from 11 to 55 both male and female.

If there's a god let him forgive those pieces of shit because I won't.

I won't go further with that, as I said, you are so full of hate it is disgusting. You even call them animals.

Everything above here is straight-up direct OWNAGE...

gsol your logic is terrible...so the Liverpool fans 'killed' the juve fans in Heysel, that means you think that if Liverpool fans were killed it would be 'justice'. So using your logic if the Jews had to kill millions of Germans, you'd think it would be justified cause of what happened in the 2nd world war?
Some people take hate of clubs to a different level. If i'll be discussing football it can be a friend and it may be a complete stranger and i'll tell them the same thing, but when its normal activites, i don't really care what team they support. My best friends support Utd, Liverpool and Milan, cause of that do you think I shouldn't be friends with them? I can have a footballing discussion, and know that 10 minutes after we can go get pissed together, thats the unity of football, not fighting.

0wn3d, +rep...

Maybe one of the busier threads here actually.

Don't put words in my mouth.

I specified that if those responsible for heysel paid with their lives that it would be justice, it seems that some here will stop at nothing to oppose me.

I know plenty of Liverpool fans and work with several. I haven't slit any throats. If one ever stated that he was at the game in '85 and charged section Z he would take a vicious beating to say the least.

All else you guys added I didn't even finish reading. Where did I state that ALL reds should die? Make a decent argument or back away from it.

And yes those pricks were animals. I hope each one of those piece of shit animals THAT CHARGED SECTION Z die slowly and painfully.

this is stupid. its an eye for an eye. in the end every 1 is blind. its a very stupid logic

Word...

this is the kop saying "amicizia" freindship. the people responsible are horrible people. but not all liverpool fans are. it is the same with any team. catania fans are not all violent. i hope you understand my point.

Good post...

http://bianconeri.tripod.com/pictifo/juve289.html
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http://www.cooperativa.cl/p4_noticias/site/artic/20050413/imag/FOTO200120050413170256.jpg

That's what we think of their friendship.

I was laughing in this thread too. Then I was asked a question and I answered it honestly. Next thing I know everyone is criticizing me.

Sorry next time I'll lie and tell everyone what a hippy I am and how I dream of a world in harmony.

I know that the ones responsible were few...yes I think them dying would be fitting. No I don't think all Liverpool fans should pay for it because they can't all be douchebags but the reason that tragedy occured was because of an environment that Liverpool fans allowed to get out of hand at the time.

Hooligans were destroying everything and frankly it's coming back. Now it's everywhere and I'm sick of it. No one learned.

Dude, your being the way you are is exactly what I highlighted, you are a hooligan for saying you would beat someone because they were in a stadium for 2 hours during something terrible.

I don't want to turn this into a debate on Heysel, but poor segregation and a shitty stadium were just as responsible for what happened.

Also, running at the opposition fans was seen as harmless fun by British fans back then, the problem was that the Juve fans didn't understand what was happening.

The Liverpool fans will not have set out to do serious damage, it was an unfortunate set of circumstances that caused it and too easy just to totally blame Liverpool.

Finally a realistic post...

No one went there with the intention of killing, something happened and people were killed, it's not like a bunch of maniacs got some Liverpool jerseys, traveled to Brussels only to kill some Italians.

no matter.they are still murderers

They are not murderers.

Murder is the unlawful killing of a human person with malice aforethought. Murder is generally distinguished from other forms of homicide by the elements of malice aforethought and the lack of lawful justification.

from wikipedia.

An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external event which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent cause but with marked effects. It implies a generally negative probabilistic outcome which may have been avoided or prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence.

also from wiki

Turk got owned...over and over....

are they murderess

No!

Jack,

don't bother. There can only be two reasons for Turk's behaviour. Either he's just an 8 year old kid or he's simply not that intelligent. It is quite obvious that his world view is limited to say the least and that he's incapable to think in a more complex fashion.

Everything is black and white for this guy, there's no such thing as grey. One is good or one is bad, there's no in between. I was reading an article about it the other day and they said that in some cases intellectual and emotional growth would simply stop due to traumatic events. Even so, one would have to be very averagely intelligent to come up with Turk's assessment of things.

Word.... to both of you...

well,they are not murderers.they are slaughterers

I think that is what you are.

No I only approve of violence for self defense.

I agree that the stadium was a disaster and that UEFA used Liverpool fans as a bit of a scapegoat to avoid responsibility for choosing that place. A friend of mine was there and said that he regretted paying for a ticket since many went on through holes in the walls. That doesn't mean that it's ok to charge at another terrace.

Jack many Liverpool fans were determined to avenge the beating they took in Rome the previous year by Roma fans and police. I don't think they wanted to kill...but many wanted to fight.

You and Mahatma would get along well.

 

[Enron]

Take a look at this Burke. I'll be ready.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Because you are a zombie.....your soul is so dirty "it affect your face"

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I apologize to all members of the Juventus nation. My actions at Heysel were unforgivable.

When you threw your fat stomach at the stands and went hotdogs.

May you burn in hell.

YEA, ENRON!

Whatever, criticize me if you want to but yes I do think they were animals and yes those responsible do deserve death. I'm not alone in thinking that way. When you watch the videos and pictures of a dead Andrea Casula at the age of 11 lying next to his father it hits you. What did Mrs. Casula do to deserve that phone call?

Just hope it wasn't long distance. That would blow to get charged for that call. Phone companies always nickling and diming, the bastards.

Good post, Andries, except for the fact that there is no grey for you whatsoever in the discussion of religion and people who practice it. Those people, for you, would basically be the Inter fans Turk abhors.....

Well, they are to me, the true hard-core ones, the ones that are "Turk"ish about gays and those who oppose the war. Those people should be killed.

she raised a piece of shit

....so you and Liverpool fans do have something in common.....

You are right, gsol, we apemen must stick together.

GSOL the Apeman...

If you weren't there than you shouldn't be

But he was, look above...

Gsol please take your hateful bile and be quiet, i am sure even turk finds your views extreme! everyone here was sickened and saddened by what happened at hesel, just as we were at hilsborough. basically NO football club should have to endure a tragedy on these scales but I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOUR it is extremism of a high order!
i tend not to come down hard on things but i am gonna keep an eye on this thread and any more of this and i will send you for a period of deep reflection. an eye for an eye never solved anything, it only makes us blind to the original problem

I love you.

I'll gift that book to him.

i must admit never seen u this pissed off before but i def agree witht he last two sentences in yr post not to mention that book is just class!!!

You should call Bozi at 4am and see what happens then...

 

[gsol]

you guys sound like tree hugging hippies you know that. Killing doesn't solve anything? Who said it would solve anything? It would be deserved if they suffered like they made others suffer. I think that of all criminals. If it wasn't a soccer game and if it wasn't Juve and Liverpool fans I would have said the same. When someone commits such a violent and senseless act it is fitting that it be done to them.

Stop sounding like a bunch of pussies and admit at least to yourselves that if your mother or brother or friend was killed for a stupid reason that you would all want justice.

People just like trying to piss me off and debate about everything. When Liverpool went to Torino 20 years later hospitals reported countless Liverpool fans being admitted after taking beatings for two days and nights...evidentally someone agreed with my view.

 

[Salvo]

by killing others its not gonna make me or any 1 feel better.if it would make you feel better you have serious problems

 

[Bjerknes]

People are indeed sounding like a bunch of pussies. I'm not condoning violence here, but if you might have known someone who died due to a drunken revenge act, you'd want them killed as well.

Someone such as Seven thinks that all religious extremists who threaten other people's lives should be killed. Maybe they should.

Don't be a bunch of hypocrites. You're just taking the high ground because it's gsol.

 

[Enron]

I am not a hippy. You want some fucking revenge? Gsol and Andy. I will let each of you have your best shot at me. Name the meeting place and I'll show up. I'd kill a Liverpool fan if he tried to take my life. Bring your best fellas, knives, sticks, whatever. Name your DC corner if you must and we will find out who the real pussy is.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

People are indeed sounding like a bunch of pussies. I'm not condoning violence here, but if you might have known someone who died due to a drunken revenge act, you'd want them killed as well.

Someone such as Seven thinks that all religious extremists who threaten other people's lives should be killed. Maybe they should.

Don't be a bunch of hypocrites. You're just taking the high ground because it's gsol.

....and you call yourself a Christian.

Like school on a Sunday, no class.

Grow up....

Andy, you didn't even know about this shit until like 1997, so please, you shut up too....it's all bullshit.

GSOL, fuck you too.....

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I wish twice as many Juve fans died, and all of them were 11 year-olds.....

No, I wish they were 9 year-olds.....

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Forza Liverpool on this one, you Juve fans piss me off with this "holier than thou" fucking cock suck bullshit.

 

[Bjerknes]

....and you call yourself a Christian.

Like school on a Sunday, no class.

Grow up....

Andy, you didn't even know about this shit until like 1997, so please, you shut up too....it's all bullshit.

GSOL, fuck you too.....

Tical... tical... hypocrite.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

...about what?

i claim to be a Christian forgiving all? NO!

I have no class? Yea, I know that, and I like not having class....

What then? I might be an asshole, but I'm not arrogant....

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

If anyone replies to me, don't write more than ten lines because I just won't read it.

 

[Bjerknes]

...about what?

i claim to be a Christian forgiving all? NO!

I have no class? Yea, I know that, and I like not having class....

What then? I might be an asshole, but I'm not arrogant....

All I'm saying is that if someone you loved died in Heysel after a bunch of Pool fans only had Italian revenge on their minds, you'd probably want those murderers killed as well. Don't say you wouldn't.

This only applies to the fools who wanted revenge for the Torino fights and ended up killing Juventus supporters in the process. It was those drunk Liverpool supporters AT THE MATCH who would deserve punishment, not any other Pool fan. Not every Pool supporter should be punished for the act of a few as they had nothing to do with it.

What... do I want Enron killed? I love him. Don't be ridiculous, Burke.

And if gsol wants Enron killed, gsol is an idiot.

 

[Bjerknes]

Forza Liverpool on this one, you Juve fans piss me off with this "holier than thou" fucking cock suck bullshit.

Funny stuff when pretty much everyone here is defending Liverpool through all this.

"Holier than though?" Come on, man. All top clubs have those fans.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

That's not what I'm talking about, Enron killed? Joker.

But I didn't have anyone I loved die at Heysel, neither did you.

The point is, for me, I would live and let live, I know this because I just don't care about a lot of shit, and for a Christian, you are being very un-Christian.

 

[Zé Tahir]

That's not what I'm talking about, Enron killed? Joker.

But I didn't have anyone I loved die at Heysel, neither did you.

The point is, for me, I would live and let live, I know this because I just don't care about a lot of shit, and for a Christian, you are being very un-Christian.

Erm..I'm with Andy on this one. Forget that this was a football match. A group of people killed people. Isn't that a crime? They don't deserve to die for it imo, but they do deserve to be blamed and be brought to justice for it. It's simple as that.

Live and let live? We aren't talking about the gayness of Liverpool here