Gonzalo Higuaín (47 apps, 8 goals in CL and 43% chance conversion rate) (26 Viewers)

[Klin]

Diamanti I agree with, as I said in his thread.

Zaza is different, that's an investment and shouldn't be related. You already know what I think about that A + B = AB³ argument.

Getting Zaza's type of players was understandable in the past when even without such transfers, we couldn't afford Higuain type of players. But do you think paying €5M in such a critical time for the club would be a good investment when every little detail seems to count right now?

 

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[JuveJay]

I already said I don't think they are linked or relevant.

I don't read 'too expensive' as 'don't have the money'. We just won't pay that fee if it's above our valuation. I'm sure their reasoning for that is to do with the accounts and putting it into one asset, but you do have to also look at the technical side.

If the goals of the club include creating a more competitive team then it goes hand in hand. Big forwards cost a lot of money, are complicated deals, and others want them. If they don't want to deal in that category then try to look for a Vidal or Pogba equivalent up front.

 

[Klin]

How are they not linked? Isn't it still transfer money?

So you think we value Higuain less than €30M? That'd be weird.

I don't really understand what's so complicated with signing someone who we apparently already agreed personal terms with and the player himself already said he wants out. Once Real appoints their new coach, I don't really see much excuses for Marotta.

 

[ZoSo]

I already said I don't think they are linked or relevant.

I don't read 'too expensive' as 'don't have the money'. We just won't pay that fee if it's above our valuation. I'm sure their reasoning for that is to do with the accounts and putting it into one asset, but you do have to also look at the technical side.

If the goals of the club include creating a more competitive team then it goes hand in hand. Big forwards cost a lot of money, are complicated deals, and others want them. If they don't want to deal in that category then try to look for a Vidal or Pogba equivalent up front.

You have to at least agree they don't exactly help the top transfers.. I'm sure if the club deems them absolutely necessary they could wait until the most important transfer(s) is/are finished.

 

[JuveJay]

I already explained.

Why would it be weird to value Higuain less? Don't people have different opinions? Even if they did, doesn't mean to say they want to pay €30m for him.

 

[Cheesio]

Higuain isn't worth 30 mil, he's a bench player coming from an average season, chokes is in big games, we already have a new CF. 25 mil should be our last offer.

 

[JuveJay]

You have to at least agree they don't exactly help the top transfers.. I'm sure if the club deems them absolutely necessary they could wait until the most important transfer(s) is/are finished.

Then those players go elsewhere. Then imagine Higuain goes elsewhere. Then we end up missing out on all of our targets

These deals are easier to complete, but like any deal if you want a good one you take it when it presents itself.

 

[Xperd]

If the goals of the club include creating a more competitive team then it goes hand in hand. Big forwards cost a lot of money, are complicated deals, and others want them. If they don't want to deal in that category then try to look for a Vidal or Pogba equivalent up front.

But this is where i believe our approach is wrong especially when it comes to attacking players.

Before people jump at my post ,look, Tevez seems like that kind of market opportunity deal that we always do and no doubt he would be a massive upgrade to our attack but again there's this distinct possibility we might be looking for a replacement in a short period of time.I'm not talking it as a fact but i see this as a big possibility.

When the club is in a financial situation not comparable to clubs like Bayern or Madrid ,resale value is also important.All im suggesting is once for all i think we are and should be capable of pulling off this one big signing(lets take Higuain as an example) and settle our forward line for once.I'm not suggesting we should follow this route in other departments.A top striker is the only missing piece in this team and for once our approach must be different.Like i said this is a tiny sacrifise which the club could well afford to or should be making.

 

[ZoSo]

Higuain isn't worth 30 mil, he's a bench player coming from an average season, chokes is in big games, we already have a new CF. 25 mil should be our last offer.

Then those players go elsewhere. Then imagine Higuain goes elsewhere. Then we end up missing out on all of our targets

These deals are easier to complete, but like any deal if you want a good one you take it when it presents itself.

Let's be honest, they aren't exactly amazing talents, unlike Verratti for example. They will just be used for decent profit in the future. I don't think they should come before a massive signing for the first team, unless we have more than enough cash to afford one (which I hope is the case).

 

[aaron ramsey]

Both Marca And AS Sunday covers are reporting that Arsenal are offering €30million for Gonzalo Higuain. The price Real Madrid is asking.

 

[Xperd]

Both Marca And AS Sunday covers are reporting that Arsenal are offering €30million for Gonzalo Higuain. The price Real Madrid is asking.

And both are quoting Guardian which has zero quotes in it.

 

[JuveJay]

Let's be honest, they aren't exactly amazing talents, unlike Verratti for example. They will just be used for decent profit in the future. I don't think they should come before a massive signing for the first team, unless we have more than enough cash to afford one (which I hope is the case).

I don't think the date we sign a player has any bearing on their importance. Teams make big signings on the last day of the mercato.

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And both are quoting Guardian which has zero quotes in it.

The Italian papers do that as well. They quote The Mirror, as if they aren't just making it up. It was only when Marotta came out with his statement having visited Madrid that The Mirror even mentioned Juventus as a contender.

 

[aaron ramsey]

Had a look at the Juventus account. I don't believe you have the financial power to buy top players unless you sell your stars players.

Cash flow is very low and the transfer fees are amortised but are often written off as expenditures which means you make very small profits.

 

[Tommy]

this clown still here?

 

[ZoSo]

I don't think the date we sign a player has any bearing on their importance. Teams make big signings on the last day of the mercato.

Then those players go elsewhere. Then imagine Higuain goes elsewhere. Then we end up missing out on all of our targets

 

[j0ker]

Had a look at the Juventus account. I don't believe you have the financial power to buy top players unless you sell your stars players.

Cash flow is very low and the transfer fees are amortised but are often written off as expenditures which means you make very small profits.

You guys are known for breaking transfer records.

 

[aaron ramsey]

You guys are known for breaking transfer records.

We have more than £140millions as cash reserved for transfers only. We can break our transfer record three times over easily tbf

 

[baggio]

Yep, we'd rather spend that difference on Zazas, Zuzus and what nots of the world, than getting into bidding over something our team really needs. Our terms

It's becoming a bit of a pattern, that's a little more worrying for me, than us actually doing it as a one off.

We'll spend 30 million on two players, one half decent and one crap....it's more about quantity than quality with Marotta.

just like my uncle who buys tomatoes to make the sauce, wont pay for the expensive boxes that have 100% usable tomatoes, but travels an hour to some bloke he has always bought off and buys boxes for half the price but has to throw 50% of them away cuz they are rotten.

That's embarassing if it is true.

Midtable mentality if you ask me, but people tend to disagree.

With this rate, we'd be able to sign such players in 2035 then. We're coming from 2 Serie A titles and a 1/8 elimination in the CL. There probably would also be some income from sales. We have offloaded Iaquinta (€3.5M / year) from our wage list. What better chances do you see us getting in the future than this without capable players upfront?

When and if FFP kicks into effect, and Uefa grow a pair and actually ban the likes of City, PsG and the oil clubs from competing in the CL as punishment. But when I last checked, City has already found some loopholes with the way they're going about it. Malaga hasn't yet, so they're easy prey.

I don't really understand what's so complicated with signing someone who we apparently already agreed personal terms with and the player himself already said he wants out. Once Real appoints their new coach, I don't really see much excuses for Marotta.

I don't either. But the society has all the answers.

Why would it be weird to value Higuain less? Don't people have different opinions? Even if they did, doesn't mean to say they want to pay €30m for him.

Don't disagree with not valuing a player, but when identifying him as a prime target there are already certain market conditions that exist that are going to drive his price up or down. Which we are aware of at the time we even start thinking of that player. if what's reported is true, and we don't want to get into an auction, then we have no business identifying a player who has a fair reputation and is likely to have others interested.

Hmm.

 

[Hust]

Higuain isn't worth 30 mil, he's a bench player coming from an average season, chokes is in big games, we already have a new CF. 25 mil should be our last offer.

Ah Cheese, come on man.

 

[Zacheryah]

Ah Cheese, come on man.

You cant expect better from such people