JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,967
Cavani, Jovetic, Palacio, Milito, Pazzini, El Shaarawy, Cassano and Di Natale are all better than our usual Borriello, Bendtner, heck even Osvaldo, Pandev, Klose, Gila and Destro are better too,
If we had signed 7-8 of the players mentioned here we'd be no better off, and you'd be complaining about them.

No one wanted SES when the transfer window was open, funny he is now someone we should have bought.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
It's the ones that keep feeling the urge to defend Marotta at every fucking opportunity that need an extended break. It's like those guys are on his payroll or something; frankly, it's bothersome and disgusting.
Forza Marotta. I wish he'll buy another Martinez come January so that you can watch him lift the Scudetto next Summer.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
If we had signed 7-8 of the players mentioned here we'd be no better off, and you'd be complaining about them.

No one wanted SES when the transfer window was open, funny he is now someone we should have bought.
Ppl had unrealistic expectation for RVP and Higuain, then natyrally they would consider them a compromise.
But from there, till the Boriello and Bendtner we got, there is quite a lot of middle ground.

The transfer director should know better than the average dreamer fan, he should his priority right.
Marotta is keep making elementary mistakes and as a result we end up with the Borriellos...

In the end of the day, what the fan expectations were and what rumors the press published dont matter,
what matter is what we actually signed.
Milan and Inter fans also had sky high expectation and the media also posted flirts with world class forwards as well.
They have failed to get them, but none did as bad as Marotta, we have been looking for a finisher almost two years now and Marotta cant do any better than Borriello or Bendtner,
these are the hards facts, rumors, expectations and speculations hold no water.
Most of the serie A, who are facing similar issues with us do better though, as they can find at least better compromises than Borriello and Bendtner...
 

David01

Senior Member
Aug 20, 2006
2,825
Ppl had unrealistic expectation for RVP and Higuain, then natyrally they would consider them a compromise.
But from there, till the Boriello and Bendtner we got, there is quite a lot of middle ground.

The transfer director should know better than the average dreamer fan, he should his priority right.
Marotta is keep making elementary mistakes and as a result we end up with the Borriellos...

In the end of the day, what the fan expectations were and what rumors the press published dont matter,
what matter is what we actually signed.
Milan and Inter fans also had sky high expectation and the media also posted flirts with world class forwards as well.
They have failed to get them, but none did as bad as Marotta, we have been looking for a finisher almost two years now and Marotta cant do any better than Borriello or Bendtner,
these are the hards facts, rumors, expectations and speculations hold no water.
Most of the serie A, who are facing similar issues with us do better though, as they can find at least better compromises than Borriello and Bendtner...
you talk about all these Italian teams with better strikers but I can only see three
Milan who bought Pato at a young age but his career is being wrecked by injuries and now they have this pharao dude
you have Cavani at Napoli, if I recall correctly we opted to sign Amauri instead of him when he was at Palermo
we all know how that went
and you have Jovetic from Fiorentina, he also arrived at a young age and he is now out of reach
you say Millito? good player but I don't count him, he has Inter written all over him and that is a smell he can never lose
so basically we have three strikers who were all bought at a relatively young age and that is what we should be doing
buy a young player with lots of potential and groom him because our world class player buying days are over
Juve have scouts to do this, all we need is the patience
that is what I liked about the last mercato, we bought youngsters
maybe they make it maybe not but that is the road we should be taking
who would have thought SES would be such a prolific striker, the Milan scouts did and I believe our scouts can do the same
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
There we are, I knew it was in there somewhere.
You know it's true though :D Scroll a couple of posts below yours to see the evidence ;)

- - - Updated - - -

Forza Marotta. I wish he'll buy another Martinez come January so that you can watch him lift the Scudetto next Summer.
Stagnating, lame, and silly. Obviously, you don't mind us wasting money on mediocrity.

Pfff, and you call yourself a fan? :howler:

- - - Updated - - -

:howler:

What a typical post by you.
I never liked, and never will like Marotta :sigh:

To each his own ;)
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Nope. I don't. I appreciate some of his work, but it doesn't mean I have to like him.

Conte, the hunger of the players, and weak competition are also contributing factors to that success, the main component in fact.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
Stagnating, lame, and silly. Obviously, you don't mind us wasting money on mediocrity.

Pfff, and you call yourself a fan? :howler:
Honestly, I should start calling you Useless Thesaurus from now on. Actually, what I don't mind is to see us winning without heavily spending on certain players. But you're too dumb to get that.

And to answer your question, I guess I should start questioning every move the club makes so you can consider me a bigger fan, right?
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,113
I never liked Moggi and he brought much more success to the club.
Fair enough, but Moggi had many unlikeable qualities as well. Marotta isn't a mafioso wannabe like Moggi.

- - - Updated - - -

Nope. I don't. I appreciate some of his work, but it doesn't mean I have to like him.

Conte, the hunger of the players, and weak competition are also contributing factors to that success, the main component in fact.
This excuse again...anyway, you do agree that Marotta's transfers were a significant reason we have had so much success lately?
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
This excuse again...anyway, you do agree that Marotta's transfers were a significant reason we have had so much success lately?
It's not an excuse seeing as it's an actual reality we are confronted with. However, I do agree that his transfers are/were a significant reason for the success we enjoyed last season, and are currently experiencing as well. Having said that, he is not without his flaws, and I don't have to like him now, do I? :D

- - - Updated - - -

Honestly, I should start calling you Useless Thesaurus from now on. Actually, what I don't mind is to see us winning without heavily spending on certain players. But you're too dumb to get that.

And to answer your question, I guess I should start questioning every move the club makes so you can consider me a bigger fan, right?
I am not saying you should question every move the club makes, but you don't have to leap to Marotta's defense every time someone criticizes him like you are on the club's payroll or something. It's the same when anyone attacks one of your beloved players. You are so blinded by bias sometimes, it's practically revolting.

If anything, you are the idiot for failing to see that I accept Marotta but acknowledge his flaws. I don't have to like him to appreciate his work.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
If you're able to read, in my previous post I admitted that buying Martinez was a fuck up of his, so stop making up bullshit, but I guess that's too much to ask from you.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
you talk about all these Italian teams with better strikers but I can only see three
Milan who bought Pato at a young age but his career is being wrecked by injuries and now they have this pharao dude
you have Cavani at Napoli, if I recall correctly we opted to sign Amauri instead of him when he was at Palermo
we all know how that went
and you have Jovetic from Fiorentina, he also arrived at a young age and he is now out of reach
you say Millito? good player but I don't count him, he has Inter written all over him and that is a smell he can never lose
so basically we have three strikers who were all bought at a relatively young age and that is what we should be doing
buy a young player with lots of potential and groom him because our world class player buying days are over
Juve have scouts to do this, all we need is the patience
that is what I liked about the last mercato, we bought youngsters
maybe they make it maybe not but that is the road we should be taking
who would have thought SES would be such a prolific striker, the Milan scouts did and I believe our scouts can do the same
I understand compromises, more than most of the day dreamers in here.
But consider this, all those superior choices from our Borriello and Bendtner, i ve mentioned, are NOT ideal options for the current clubs either.
They were likewise hoping for smth better and they are still searching on the market for better solution.
However, when they had to accept a compromise and sign a lesser finisher to RVP, they have secured a decent one, unlike us.
Thats the difference there, all of the players i mentioned are better than our options, considering our financial momentum, we have the worst performance of them all.
And there are no excuses, we are looking for a Treze replacement before Marotta joined us, we ought to come up with a solution of our caliber, either by direct funding, co-own, scouting etc.
Esp after the Borriello fiasko, there are no more excuses, since last x-mas we are looking for a starter finisher and the best we can do is Bendtner, thats unacceptable,
if they are incompetent enough to scout the next Cavani, Falcao and Jovetic, they should at least focus at signing the Militos and Di Natales from the smaller Italian clubs.
Heck even a Klose would and when Lazio bought him, they did not spend a stellar ammount, neither serie A's prestige was significantly better, or could they offer more titles hopes and CL glory than we do now.

None of the teams of our caliber, who face the same conditions with us and yet more challenging financial conditions had to compromise as low as Borriello and Bendtner for the starter slot.
Even some mid-table teams have coped better!
This is a clear proof of transfer managing incompetence in many levels (scouting, domestic infuence, negotiating skills with clubs, bargain skills with players and managers, domestic market awareness, budget managing, gift to sniff talents, priorities allocation, international transfer market awareness, etc) just one of those traits would have offered as a better option than Borriello and Bendtner, but unfortunately our transfer director has none he is completely incompetent...
and on the top of that, he gets owned with deals like the one with Giovinco, which ended up with us spending, one of the largest serie A mercato ammounts, just to take half of our player back...
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 1, Guests: 63)