JuveJay

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Why not? Come mid season and we are suffering, Cronios will have to tell you that he already warned us and but we did not listen.
I think we're all prepared for failure, we don't accept it but know it is one possibility because of what we work with on and off the field. But seeing the dark side of every single aspect of the club - even when overwhelmingly incorrect - because of this potential outcome, takes a special kind of person.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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I think we're all prepared for failure, we don't accept it but know it is one possibility because of what we work with on and off the field. But seeing the dark side of every single aspect of the club - even when overwhelmingly incorrect - because of this potential outcome, takes a special kind of person.
He's not the only one here who's like that.
 

deggen10

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Jul 27, 2011
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Someone needs to get off Melo's d*k. FFS almost no-one was convinced by him and players like him and Diego shape how the team plays. Just because they're not the worst players on the team, doesn't mean you keep playing them. That's why Barca gets rid of Zlatan.

It's got nothing to do with scape-goating non-Italians or else they wouldn't have cut Aquilani(national team player) just as quickly and i don't see him bitching about it.

Anyway i'd be more critical of Marotta(this season) if someone could actually name all the champions he failed to get. Which is usually ridiculous claims like Aguero, Ozil, Affellay, Nani, Ribbery, Vidic, Kolarov, Neymar, Tevez.
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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He has a right to say what he wants. A lot of people don't agree with him, but it's his right to voice his opinion.

He very rarely ever slanders anyone or insults them, and will only do so when he is insulted.

look, I don't agree with a good portion of what he says, but sometimes he gets slated for no reason.
He's not writing his opinion. He only write the facts.
 

Alessandro

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Sep 13, 2002
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My opinion on Quaq since his injury is that he is unreliable and we should rather buy a new starter and scrap him, because we already have too many squad players for the SS position (DP, Iaq, Amauri) we bought him too.
We commit one mistake behind the other and you ignore them all because you just prefer to see the good part, of a new and more promising arrival.
You easily forget that the same arguments were again used when Amauri was brought and he was fresh and promising.
Again i asked for a better LB, LW and CB instead, again the priorities were overlooked, again the mediocre unproven player failed to become world class, again our investment was wasted, again our sacrifices on the defense and left wing came back to haunt all this long and again we overlook them and commit the same mistakes for some fools hopes...
Iaq and Amaury are SS??? :sergio:
We don't look for CB and LKW :sergio:

You're incompetent.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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By the end of august 31, all of you wishful thinkers dellusionists hide in your wormholes or stubbornly avoid/forget any logical argument made in the mercato and just hope for the best.
I believe our development is made on the transfer window and once it closes, we can only go as far, as the available material and coach can get us.
We are setting the standards here and now.
ATM, considering that the transfer window is about to close in window, i believe that the moves we have made thus far were terrible and unwise. Thats a fact based on the transfers made so far.
You are the ones who assumes that we will buy more useful players and you judge that our mercato is far is great, because you have faith that Marotta will make up for his mistakes and buy in the last days, the players that didnt bought in 3 months.
Typical delusional thinking and you dare to flame my objective assessment on the transfer actions that were made, that are real and irrevocable.

As far Melo, that the BS you want to believe, Melo knew that they were going to offload him and thats he RIGHTFULLY made those comments.
The intend to sell him, no matter the cost was proved by the disastrous deal Marotta made, that deal proved that Melo was right all along and the decision to ditch he was already made, despite the fact that he was one of our best players in the past season, and that he has given his all for our jersey.
This is not the first time such a thing occurs, Diego, Giovinco and many other players were also ditched in the shame way and the collective loss of those sale outs, has a HUGE economic impact on our economy and our effort to build a competitive squad.

Now you can be a hypocrite and blame the players all you want, by ignoring the pattern that is present throughout all our recent history, a pattern that i have recognized and pointed out through the very beginning, a pattern that undermines our efforts to grow and condemn us to waste our limited resources and remain a mediocre club with higher capabilities...

I raise the question again, do you think that it is random that we are wasting the largest part of our resources and attention at acquiring a new SS and a new CM each and every season, since our return from serie A??
Do you think that it random that we have avoided to invest on the defense as much as possible?
Do you think that the choices of the puppet coaches is also random?
Do you honestly fail to see the pattern that is repeated each and every year?

FFS i ve pointing it out since the first year, five years this thing has been repeated and you still fail to see it?

Ang again, you still instist that Vucinic and Vidal were the player we needed the most?
You still insist that a CB better than Bonucci wouldnt help our cause more.
You still insist that LB better than Ziegler wouldnt hhelp our cause more.
You still insist that a LW better than Martinez wouldnt help our cause more.


You still believe that Vidal and Vucinic are so much more superior than Melo+Quaq, that will be able to compensate for Bonucci's, Zeglier's and Martinez lapses.
If you actually believe, then excuse me, but you are just an idiot who is not only clueless about football, but also a moron who was learned nothing by the Iaq, Amauri, Tiago, Almiron, Poulsen, Quaq, Diego etc mistakes...
If our board fools you once, by giving you false hopes by hyped players who can only make the difference on papers, shame on them, but fool you twice, thrice or indefinitely, only proves that you are mentally challenged and never learn from your mistakes.

As for the forward situation, Marotta has failed to sell/release/swap/loan them.
Not all, but not even one of them and yet you are hurry to forget him about that.
Thats ok, lets hope that he knows what he is doing and blame everything on Secco, everybody was supporting up until yesterday, when i was the pessimist who were bashing him...

But how can you forget him for the Acquisition of a whole new pack of forwards, when we already have so many available options.
Marotta fails to offload Secco's mistakes Amauri and Iaq, ok but why not keep them as squad players and add yet another squad in Toni last year then? He has just added one more problem to the equation now, is this Secco's fault as well?
Why add Quaq, when he sees that he is not reliable enough to make the season and is still stacked with Seccos squad players and his squad player??
The decision to buy Vucinic automatically turn Quaq into our 4th forward sub, wtf, is he interested on a 5th now??
Seriously, thats totally insane and no matter how biased to eternal optimism one may be, the acquisition of yet another forward and a failure to buy a LW/CB starter, should verify the incompetence and complete failure of this mercato.

Thats exactly what i said. Based on my exp, ii believe thats possible, because i believe that Marotta is that incompetent.
Just like i said before we buy Vidal, that if we buy him, it will be a tragic mistake with catastrophic consequences to our economy.
That was my opinion before it happened, as it did happened, i will not change my mind now, because you or any other delusional fan will call me negative.
My opinion on the Vucinic acquisition before we bought him, was that it would be a tragic mistake, that will undermine our chances to buy a competent winger starter like Vargas and so far it seems that i was spot on, our limited resources were wasted, our inability to sell confirmed and the end result is that we will end up with someone like Perotti, or even worse and suffer again from the very same issues we have been suffering since Neddy's retirement and for the same stupid reason again (to add yet another dribbler SS, to appease the fans and ignite their hopes)
My opinion on Quaq since his injury is that he is unreliable and we should rather buy a new starter and scrap him, because we already have too many squad players for the SS position (DP, Iaq, Amauri) we bought him too.
We commit one mistake behind the other and you ignore them all because you just prefer to see the good part, of a new and more promising arrival.
You easily forget that the same arguments were again used when Amauri was brought and he was fresh and promising.
Again i asked for a better LB, LW and CB instead, again the priorities were overlooked, again the mediocre unproven player failed to become world class, again our investment was wasted, again our sacrifices on the defense and left wing came back to haunt all this long and again we overlook them and commit the same mistakes for some fools hopes...
I'm such a dumb, delusional shit, aren't I? Felipe Melo is really a player we could have relied on when the going gets tough!!!!! Let's throw away our season when our midfield falls to bits!!!!!! You're not changing you mind? Well neither am I!!! Let's just sell the unsellable Vincenzo 'Glass' Iaquinta and Amauri the '€4m a year bench warmer'! Easy tasks!! But I'm sure you as mr. post calciopoli negativity expert would be able to do it easy!! Iaquinta to Anzhi for €15m and swap Ayew with Amauri right?




And before you say anything, no our post-calciopoli hasn't been acceptable by any standards. Only this season do I see a true improvement.


I don't get you, there's two weeks left in the mercato yet you say 'you asked for a better LB, LW and CB'. THE MERCATO IS NOT FINISHED. I know you think I'm some ridiculous, dumb, unknowledgeable Marotta fanboy but guess what? I'm not. I wanted Marotta's head on a stake not that long ago but I see now that this guy has a decent plan to get us into CL. It's not without flaws but this is our BEST MERCATO SINCE CALCIOPOLI. I guarantee you 100% that a CB and LW will be bought. But oh no, you'll just blah blah 2006-7 this and 2009-10 that and Marotta didn't buy any last season so he won't buy a CB and LW.


Ang again, you still instist that Vucinic and Vidal were the player we needed the most?
You still insist that a CB better than Bonucci wouldnt help our cause more.
You still insist that LB better than Ziegler wouldnt hhelp our cause more.
You still insist that a LW better than Martinez wouldnt help our cause more.


I never said these things, I said that we needed Vucinic and Vidal, but to be a pessimistic annoying little fuck, you just understood what I said to mean that I think that we need those two more than a CB, LB or LW. Well honestly, I would trade Vucinic for Alex, Vucinic for a good LW (Vargas etc) but not for a LB. You underestimate Ziegler hugely, I think you also forget that we have PAOLO DE CEGLIE, who believe it or not, is actually decent and when not injured produces good performances.


Quagliarella is not our 4th sub at all. You just make things up to be negative. He'll be a starter for a lot games and will get plenty of playing time. I think it's unfair to call one of Matri, Quag or Vucinic a bench watmer since they are all capable starters.

One thing I also don't understand about you, you are ALWAYS negative, I don't think I've ever seen you praise Marotta for buying Lichtsteiner, who in case you didn't know plays RIGHT-BACK. Which was probably our worst position last season and now we have one of the top 2-3 right backs in Serie A. You never praised Marotta for getting Pirlo for free. There's not much difference in passing up Pirlo for free than there is Xavi for free. Pirlo is the best passing regista in the world. Surely that's an improvement over Aquilani.

The team you it seems like you suggest we buy is far more unstable than our sqaud right now with our current team plus + Alex and LW.


JUST TELL ME ONE THING: WHO WOULD YOU HAVE BOUGHT?

AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT CAPS!!!!

Also, if we didn't buy any CMs this year what would our midfield look like? Marchisio-Melo with a backup of Sissoko? Sounds like a plan man!!!!
What about our fowards? Matri-Quagliarella. Don't get me wrong that's great, but what if Quag gets injured again? Let's kill Del Piero and make him play full matches! But of course with all the money saved on CM we could have bought Rossi! This is looking even better now! That midfield looks sexy! Claudio 'Casper' Marchisio and Felipe 'The Quitter' Melo! And we all know how last season went with no good regista (Aquilani mostly failed, not his fault, he plays best in 3 man mid).


But alas, I am a fool, our mercato is a complete failure, we have added no good players, no weaknesses have been addressed, we bought useless shit CMs and a SS with no talent (Vucinic), and for some strange reason, Juve's mercato closes 2 weeks earlier than everyone elses.
 

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