Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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It is a difference between being interested in a move abroad and wanting to leave.
Draxler is still a young guy , of course he is open to moving if the right offer comes but dont expect him to start jumping around and running towards the exit , right now nobody can say he isn't settlet at Schalke , it's his home but that doesn't mean he won't leave it if his demands are met. Obvious is the fact he is interested in a move to Juventus but its down to the clubs to reach a agreement.
 

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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Willing to come with a player agreement in place is different. He is now in a position to request the transfer, and there's concrete evidence to suggest that he should. A ready contract. If he doesn't push for the move, then you can argue that we still don't have that international appeal Marrotta spoke of, although the league should take a majority of that blame rather than the club alone, because Juve are far more forward thinking entity than the rest of the Italians.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Not going to get into the first part of your post, as a lot of that has been addressed through this thread and others. Though my take about the examples of the big names you share as Mandzukic, Khedira and Dybala is as below:

Mandzukic was making a move up from Atletico Madrid, and was not enjoying an ideal situation there. Had he had a better season and was getting along with Simeone, the situation could be different. As a player and value for money deal, I think we did well on this one and he is definitely a continental name.

Khedira as Matthaus also correctly said, only came to Serie A because Madrid didn't want him anymore, the player himself mentioned how he was ill treated in the latter half of the season and wasn't given the chance to play despite being fit. Youd think a big name in its true sense would have clubs bigger than Schalke having approached him to close a deal. That too, when he was available on a free. Khedira is a high profile player mainly because of the teams he plays for, but he is far from being a world class player. This was an opportunity signing rather than a statement of intent.

I don't think you can call Dybala a top player yet. He is a good prospect and we ended up overpaying a bit, but I don't blame the club for that. The situation was a fine line and we did pretty decently in the circumstances. Although, again, the player was coming from within the league and moving to the biggest team in the same league. If Dybala was playing at Wolfsburg, and it was the EPL vs Serie A, good luck with him signing for Juve ahead of Bayern or United. That's where you could say our attraction is truly continental. He's kind of said it himself, that he needs to grow as a player and Juve will give him that.

Not being ungrateful here for the work done by the management, but we need a marquee player to help bring out the best in the likes of Dybala and Mandzukic. You'd think a signing like Goetze would kind of speak for our international profile as well as make a statement of intent after the sale of Vidal.
they are still big names we attracted. how it happened is irrelevant in this case
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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How comes Schalke didn't sell? They are stupid to keep a player who clearly doesn't want to be there anymore. He won't play with all his heart and go for peanuts next year. Schalke's hands were tied, what happened?
Please always mention @Zacheryah in these posts.
I have actually answered this question before. It seems like you are becomming weak on your trolling game. I suggest to stop shaving.


Tbh, if you find that a funny question, and cant see the obvious answer, then there is no hope.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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I have actually answered this question before. It seems like you are becomming weak on your trolling game. I suggest to stop shaving.


Tbh, if you find that a funny question, and cant see the obvious answer, then there is no hope.
Is this random or am I missing something?

Care to explain it again though? I know it's difficult to believe, but I don't read much of your posts.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
How comes Schalke didn't sell? They are stupid to keep a player who clearly doesn't want to be there anymore. He won't play with all his heart and go for peanuts next year. Schalke's hands were tied, what happened?
Is this random or am I missing something?

Care to explain it again though? I know it's difficult to believe, but I don't read much of your posts.

It strikes me, on pictures you look like a friendly chap, a kind wally that gets along with everyone. Yet everything you post is cynical and mocking, without wanting to be constructive. Such a contradiction tbh.
Maybe if you'd shave less, you'd look less kind, more to your nature when the people you are talking to arent sitting in front of you.


To go back on topic. What reputation do we have in the eyes of draxler ?
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
61,692
It strikes me, on pictures you look like a friendly chap, a kind wally that gets along with everyone. Yet everything you post is cynical and mocking, without wanting to be constructive. Such a contradiction tbh.
Maybe if you'd shave less, you'd look less kind, more to your nature when the people you are talking to arent sitting in front of you.


To go back on topic. What reputation do we have in the eyes of draxler ?
You're honestly going to lecture me about contradictions, Zach? You of all people here? I do get along with anyone unless they're (insert any adjective which would warrant an infracton but for someone who is already on 8 points and plans to play haxball tomorrow does not really seem worth it) like you, then yes, I will point and single you out as the hypocrite that you are, each and every opportunity I get.

I'm not Draxler. I wouldn't know, but something tells me you do.

And why are we even talking about beards? Stop stalking me.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
You're honestly going to lecture me about contradictions, Zach? You of all people here? I do get along with anyone unless they're (insert any adjective which would warrant an infracton but for someone who is already on 8 points and plans to play haxball tomorrow does not really seem worth it) like you, then yes, I will point and single you out as the hypocrite that you are, each and every opportunity I get.

I'm not Draxler. I wouldn't know, but something tells me you do.

And why are we even talking about beards? Stop stalking me.
Cmon klinnie, its not like i'm the only one you behave against like this.
You dont like me because i support unpopular decisions by the management. And because i have a short temper when it comes to tactics. And a very short one when it comes to suggestions that go in against what juventus stands for.

I'm a bit on a short temper today i admit. I had to do an extra arms training, wich i fucking hate, with a headache cause Belgium has retarded weather,.


And that shaving thing was a randomn joke. Its your head. You look like a friendly guy. If you would read what you are posting some days, then you would agree that its not really that friendly.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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You're honestly going to lecture me about contradictions, Zach? You of all people here? I do get along with anyone unless they're (insert any adjective which would warrant an infracton but for someone who is already on 8 points and plans to play haxball tomorrow does not really seem worth it) like you, then yes, I will point and single you out as the hypocrite that you are, each and every opportunity I get.

I'm not Draxler. I wouldn't know, but something tells me you do.

And why are we even talking about beards? Stop stalking me.
good to see you got your priorities in order :D
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
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Beppe deserves a lot of respect for what he has done in the past years, but i want to add there is a reason in football that teams in general dont succeed for consecutive years and thats mostly down to poor management and bringing in the wrong people. I am not implying here is the case , but by no means we'll let ourselfs foolled that everything is alright when right now just isn't , there is still time in this mercato to improve but untill that moment i am very dissapointed so far with his recent comments and actions. .I still trust Beppe and i know even in the worst scenario we will still at least be winning a scudetto , which is a great achievement and might be culminated with a new Serie A record of 5 straight scudetto's. But as everyone here , we want more than that! C'mon Beppe!
 

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