PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Pretty sure I read something that said Tevez told the Juve management months ago that he wanted to go to Boca. Juve just signed Dybala before the public knew Tevez was leaving.

My point with Vidal and his replacement is that I don't feel that pattern is quite pieced together yet as we don't know when first contacts occurred between Vidal and Bayern, at what point Juve knew of Bayern's interest/Vidal's desire to leave or when Juve started making moves for a trequartista.

It's the lack of information as yet regarding the gap between what was going on in private and what has come out publicly that means I don't think Marotta can be criticised at the moment.

It's entirely possible that you are correct, but we don't know that yet, so it's better to hold off on passing judgement.
My criticism is based on 2 well known facts: Vidal is sold; a trequartista is not signed yet.
 

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Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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My criticism is based on 2 well known facts: Vidal is sold; a trequartista is not signed yet.
Two facts: Vidal isnt sold yet, we havent signed a trequartista yet.

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As far as I know he is widely considered one of the best of the world. So you can have an idea, here in Brazil where people don't give a shit about Serie A, he is considered world class.

I'm sure in England it's the same, specially between United supporters.

From what I've read on internet, Bayern fans are ecstatic about the deal, in all senses - sportive and economic. This is telling.

About the leverage, it's hard to say.

My problem here is not even the price, it's the lack of an adequate replacement as a condition to make the deal, because at this point in preseason there might just be none.
Most EPL fans dont rate him that I've encountered. They all seem to be enamoured with Pogba.
 

JuveID

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Feb 5, 2015
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Two facts: Vidal isnt sold yet, we havent signed a trequartista yet.

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Most EPL fans dont rate him that I've encountered. They all seem to be enamoured with Pogba.
That's why I think 40 million for Vidal is good enough.
EPL club who has the money do not rate him.

even according EPL fans , Vidal = poor man Ramsey :sergio:

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Bayern munchen pay what they will get for next 5 years not for what vidal achieved in previous 4 years.
In the next 5 years, there is big probality Vidal would not be one of the best of the world.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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then why not wait until the transfer-window is closed before you judge him?
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I see what you're saying but then it's a forum, a football forum. All of that is expect.
I understand that. 'tis only that it gets a little irritating sometimes. I've worked 850 hours in the last 3 months. I guess I'm lacking a little patience for that nonsense at the moment. TO be perfectly honest, I'm super fucking excited to see how Juventus looks with Dybala, Morata, and Mandzukic up front in whatever combination. I think Morata is going to be a beast this year, and I really see Dybala exploding down the stretch. His assist numbers are going to be huge imo, and Morata and Mandzukic will benefit greatly from this. This forward group has me really excited. If we get a good CAM, man... our attack is going to be scary.
 

CrimsonianKing

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I understand that. 'tis only that it gets a little irritating sometimes. I've worked 850 hours in the last 3 months. I guess I'm lacking a little patience for that nonsense at the moment. TO be perfectly honest, I'm super fucking excited to see how Juventus looks with Dybala, Morata, and Mandzukic up front in whatever combination. I think Morata is going to be a beast this year, and I really see Dybala exploding down the stretch. His assist numbers are going to be huge imo, and Morata and Mandzukic will benefit greatly from this. This forward group has me really excited. If we get a good CAM, man... our attack is going to be scary.
Apart from Zaza (still think it was a waste of money but we'll see) we had a hell of a mercato. We're still following the same path; getting top players for good prices (apart from Dybala, he's the one we had to go balls in) and Marotta so far is doing a superb job.

So yes, i think people are too harsh and should just cool down a little and wait until the mercato's over to pass judgment. Vidal is gone but we still could bring someone huge.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Two facts: Vidal isnt sold yet, we havent signed a trequartista yet.

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Most EPL fans dont rate him that I've encountered. They all seem to be enamoured with Pogba.
Vidal is sold, Marotta referred to him as he referred to Tevez, Storari, Pirlo, Ogbonna. I mean, the negotiation is over, only pending is medicals.
 

JuveID

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Feb 5, 2015
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I think it again, and i found something interisting.
It is related the idea about vidal and tevez should stay at juventus for one season.
And maybe it is related to pirlo too.

In 2016 :
-Barzagli and Evra contract will be expired.
-there is probability pogba would left us in 2016 because because his price would increase significantly after euro.
-There is probability morata would come back to real madrid.

Losing vidal,pirlo and tevez in one summer would effect us significantly.

But if tevez, vidal ( you can add pirlo) stayed for one season, could you imagine we lose tevez, vidal, pogba, morata ( you can add barzagli, evra and pirlo) in one summer?

That is more way way scary. :sergio:
 

Valentino

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I think it again, and i found something interisting.
It is related the idea about vidal and tevez should stay at juventus for one season.
And maybe it is related to pirlo too.

In 2016 :
-Barzagli and Evra contract will be expired.
-there is probability pogba would left us in 2016 because because his price would increase significantly after euro.
-There is probability morata would come back to real madrid.

Losing vidal,pirlo and tevez in one summer would effect us significantly.

But if tevez, vidal ( you can add pirlo) stayed for one season, could you imagine we lose tevez, vidal, pogba, morata ( you can add barzagli, evra and pirlo) in one summer?

That is more way way scary. :sergio:
You're crazy. :facepalm2:
 

Lion

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all i am ask for is a civil discussion. we are all adults here, and even in tough times we should be able to have an adult discussion.

i think i will stop now. sorry to bother you
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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all i am ask for is a civil discussion. we are all adults here, and even in tough times we should be able to have an adult discussion.

i think i will stop now. sorry to bother you
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