Ghana Apologises To Arab Diplomats Over Israel Flag (25 Viewers)

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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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Andy said:
Ghana should not be apologizing at all. The only people who should be giving apologies in this matter are the Arab countries who wet their panties just because somebody waved an Israeli flag. Now, if that flag so-happened to be that of Palestine, they would obviously applaud it. The Ghana player should wave his flag in their faces all day long.
Israel would have done the same, and Ghana would have apologized for Israel...

No difference at all...
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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#64
Seven said:
:howler: Don't act like that. Don't tell me every Palestina citizen wants Ghana out of the World Cup, because of something like this. Please, ReBel's history has got nothing to do with this. He's just being very very intolerant and extremely agressive.
My history??

Extremely Agressive??

Yes, and I was banned 15 times...
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
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#65
ReBeL said:
Israel would have done the same, and Ghana would have apologized for Israel...

No difference at all...
To tell you the truth, I don't think they'd even care more or less. Israel has better things to do like build more walls and kill some innocent Palestinians then argue about some stupid flag being waved around.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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#66
The thing everyone forgets is that fans of the player's club had treked all the way to Germany just to watch him play. Should such love not be returned? The flag was the player's symbol for the love of his club and its fans, not his preference of religions. Such actions require no apologies and any reasonable person can see that. But alas not everyone is reasonable as we saw with the Denmark/muhammed issue.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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#67
As I am in germany this world cup showed me one thing, just come to germany and watch how different people, from differnt countries, with differnt relligions and colors are enjoying together and are just friends.
the player of ghana just showed one flag, he did nothing bad to palastinan people or moslems, we should try to solve our problems and not to create problems from such things.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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#68
Maresca said:
As I am in germany this world cup showed me one thing, just come to germany and watch how different people, from differnt countries, with differnt relligions and colors are enjoying together and are just friends.
the player of ghana just showed one flag, he did nothing bad to palastinan people or moslems, we should try to solve our problems and not to create problems from such things.
I'll give you +rep as soon as possible,mate.

These were the great thoughts you shared with us.:tup:
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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#69
Seven said:
:howler: Don't act like that. Don't tell me every Palestina citizen wants Ghana out of the World Cup, because of something like this. Please, ReBel's history has got nothing to do with this. He's just being very very intolerant and extremely agressive.
No, I wasn't supporting him in that opinion. That was honestly pretty pathetic. People should never mix politics with the World Cup.

I'm not even saying I agree with ReBel, I'm just saying that 99% of you have no idea what a Palestinian goes through on a daily bases; what you read is not even half of it, so for you to come here and accuse and criticize him is very ignorant.

Lemme put it in terms you'll understand in...

Can you blame 2 Pac and Biggie for their lyrics? No? Why? because they grew up in that kind of environment. You don't support it, you know it's wrong, but you understand them what their coming from. Because anyone who goes through such conditions is bound to be a in a certain way. Yet, when someone like ReBel says something just as similar, he's straight up accused of all kinds of shit.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,176
#70
Rami said:
Oh don't bring America into this.

You two are asking for the killing of who wants to kill others. Whats the difference between you and him? Two wrongs don't make it right.
When you have gun-toting thugs who cannot even tolerate the sight of a flag that stands for the people they want to exterminate, carried by an athlete who just wants to show mere appreciation, yes it does.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,176
#71
ReBeL said:
Why am I not surprised??
No, I don't support Israel, so your typical notion regarding Americans and our poltical beliefs falls flat once again.

And unfortunately for you, FIFA will not ban us from the next World Cup. :weee:
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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#72
Enron said:
The thing everyone forgets is that fans of the player's club had treked all the way to Germany just to watch him play. Should such love not be returned? The flag was the player's symbol for the love of his club and its fans, not his preference of religions. Such actions require no apologies and any reasonable person can see that. But alas not everyone is reasonable as we saw with the Denmark/muhammed issue.

spot on !!!


Can you blame 2 Pac and Biggie for their lyrics? No? Why? because they grew up in that kind of environment. You don't support it, you know it's wrong, but you understand them what their coming from.

not a good example Ze, because both grew up in middle class families. Neither was really a street thug, only pretenders....but they paid anyways
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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#74
Zé Tahir said:
That's fucking pathetic, let the guy show what ever flag he wants. Stupid arab politicans at it again, no fucking back bone at all, so they go at silly issues such as these. :disagree:
Take it from Zé: he'll sport any flag on a given day. :agree:
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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#76
Vinman said:
not a good example Ze, because both grew up in middle class families. Neither was really a street thug, only pretenders....but they paid anyways
I wonder what a middle class family from Harlem is like. But, forget that, take anyone you know out there, doesn't have to be those two.

swag said:
Take it from Zé: he'll sport any flag on a given day. :agree:
what's that supposed to mean? :p
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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#77
In an era and sport where waving a national flag has far more to do with player identities than with national politics (see: the coming lack of Ukranian flags at the San Siro), this incident underscores a couple of things where an event like the WC can play a role.

On the one hand, you have trigger-happy people who will jump at any opportunity to intepret someone's expression of familial or club allegiance as an overt endorsement of human rights violations. Sorry to say, but that's one big DUH. An incident like this holds up a mirror to those who make no attempt to recognize the right for pluralist societies to exist -- and these people can show a great intolerance for anything other than their own way of life and own way of thinking.

On the other hand, I appreciate the fact that the World Cup provides a true world stage. That the whole world can witness goal celebrations with bows to Mecca in the world's grandest sporting stage shows that the pluralist question goes for everybody. And while it would be simplistic to say that there are those who view everything in the world through Israel-or-Palestine-tinted glasses, and they need to get over themselves and recognize that other realities exist beyond their own narrow thinking ... it also goes that it's a bit clueless and culturally insensitive for an Israel flag-waver to think that there won't be people who will interpret that as some sort of political statement.

Hey, we have people waving Mexican flags at U.S. rallies in support of more liberal immigration laws. :confused: Which is clearly their right to express how they feel personal solidarity to a cause. But at least try to get a clue as to how others will interpret it. It may not stop you from doing it, but at least do what you can to not be all dumbfounded by the reaction from some circles. It really isn't brain surgery to get clued in about the world on such a visible level.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
84,786
#78
Zé Tahir said:
I wonder what a middle class family from Harlem is like. But, forget that, take anyone you know out there, doesn't have to be those two.



what's that supposed to mean? :p
Hey -- not that there's anything wrong with that. :p
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
#79
Andy said:
No, I don't support Israel, so your typical notion regarding Americans and our poltical beliefs falls flat once again.

And unfortunately for you, FIFA will not ban us from the next World Cup. :weee:
I'll enjoy seeing your team humiated gain, then...
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
#80
Zé Tahir said:
No, I wasn't supporting him in that opinion. That was honestly pretty pathetic. People should never mix politics with the World Cup.

I'm not even saying I agree with ReBel, I'm just saying that 99% of you have no idea what a Palestinian goes through on a daily bases; what you read is not even half of it, so for you to come here and accuse and criticize him is very ignorant.

Lemme put it in terms you'll understand in...

Can you blame 2 Pac and Biggie for their lyrics? No? Why? because they grew up in that kind of environment. You don't support it, you know it's wrong, but you understand them what their coming from. Because anyone who goes through such conditions is bound to be a in a certain way. Yet, when someone like ReBel says something just as similar, he's straight up accused of all kinds of shit.
Exactly...

How many of those criticized me watched news in the same day whan that Ghanaian player did what he did??

Did you read somewhere that a family with 8 members were bombed while spending their day on a picnic on Gaza beach?? Did you see the only alive daughter of this family crying on the body of her father and yelling sadly??

When you watch something like that, and some ignorant man comes at night to waive the flag of those who did the massacre in the morning, then you'll understand why people here were annoyed by that...
 
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