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[Osman]

The problem with Mr Robot is that it isn't weird. It is incredibly mainstream actually. Not only is the actual premisse a simple modern Robin Hood, the protagonist also holds a worldview that is increasingly common among young people and that is filled with halftruths at best.

Don't get me wrong, I actually quite like the show. But it is something that was obviously created with the reddit generation in mind.

Take this entire conglomerates are bad thing they've got going on. That's an idea that is very prevalent these days, but I don't agree with it at all. Conglomerates are simply amoral. There is no good or bad, there's just profit. A smart show would also say you need to fight them, but wouldn't link it with morality.

As always, not nearly as good as The Wire.

I don't disagree, but I don't hold it to high standard (not like wire level lol), but it's entertaining drama with some really interesting scenes.

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[Seven]

If you use that standard for every show, you're gonna be incredibly disappointed every time

Agree mostly with you, it's a great show and I really like it, but not in the GOAT category. A little bit too pretentious at times, tries to be too critically socially for its own good, it just isn't all that deep as it pretends to be.

I know .

And you're right. It just isn't as deep as it thinks it is. That's what made The Wire so great. It showed society in all its complexities and subtleties and at times was generally insightful. The very first dialogue (if Snotboogie always stole the money, why did you let him play? - Got to, this is America man) was brilliant and you could write entire essays about it.

Compared to that, Mr Robot is incredibly crude. It's like how a good book shows you situations and lets you draw conclusions, while a bad one tells you what just happened.

 

[Seven]

I don't disagree, but I don't hold it to high standard (not like wire level lol), but it's entertaining drama with some really interesting scenes.

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Yeah sure. Like I said, I like it, it's entertaining. But the way Elliot talks closely resembles the storyteller in Fight Club and if you're going with that concept you need some actual deep and intelligent shit to back it up and I feel like it's not enough in this show.

Maybe I just expect too much though.

 

[Seven]

Twin Peaks > The Wire

Twin Peaks got lost in its own mystery and was always more about atmosphere than true storytelling. It was a brilliant show and one of the best ever, but I much prefer the Wire. Completely different types of series though, so I can understand someone would prefer Twin Peaks.

 

[Post Ironic]

Twin Peaks got lost in its own mystery and was always more about atmosphere than true storytelling. It was a brilliant show and one of the best ever, but I much prefer the Wire. Completely different types of series though, so I can understand someone would prefer Twin Peaks.

By Twin Peaks, I mean Season 1, the first couple episodes of Season 2, and the last episode... That shit in the middle of the second season after ABC forced Lynch to reveal the murderer and he walked away from the show until the last episode, it should just be forgotten.

Super excited to see Season 3 after all these years. Especially with the cast he has, and complete creative control.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The problem with Mr Robot is that it isn't weird. It is incredibly mainstream actually. Not only is the actual premisse a simple modern Robin Hood, the protagonist also holds a worldview that is increasingly common among young people and that is filled with halftruths at best.

Don't get me wrong, I actually quite like the show. But it is something that was obviously created with the reddit generation in mind.

Take this entire conglomerates are bad thing they've got going on. That's an idea that is very prevalent these days, but I don't agree with it at all. Conglomerates are simply amoral. There is no good or bad, there's just profit. A smart show would also say you need to fight them, but wouldn't link it with morality.

As always, not nearly as good as The Wire.

 

[swag]

And sometimes we disagree

Not everything can be a Utopia.

The problem with Mr Robot is that it isn't weird. It is incredibly mainstream actually. Not only is the actual premisse a simple modern Robin Hood, the protagonist also holds a worldview that is increasingly common among young people and that is filled with halftruths at best.

Don't get me wrong, I actually quite like the show. But it is something that was obviously created with the reddit generation in mind.

Take this entire conglomerates are bad thing they've got going on. That's an idea that is very prevalent these days, but I don't agree with it at all. Conglomerates are simply amoral. There is no good or bad, there's just profit. A smart show would also say you need to fight them, but wouldn't link it with morality.

As always, not nearly as good as The Wire.

The main storyline isn't that complicated, but for it's about proper execution of the material. It's groundbreaking in that it bothers to get the details right. Which is a far cry from all the programs before it with their big screens that show a line of text and a search box for everything.

But before you simply the show as flat transparent glass, I dare you to do that with the Angela Moss character for example. She's the best character on the show this season.

 

[Klovn]

Twin Peaks > The Wire

Klovn is GOAT

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The finale airs tonight or tomorrow night. Have you seen the original series from BBC Criminal Justice?

I saw only the first episode of The Night Of yesterday but I found myself thinking about it all day and I will watch as much as my eyes can handle this evening. The amount of good in that episode was way too much, story line, script, acting the whole thing....

That first episode . Already starting second right now

 

[icemaη]

Just finished watching the finale of The Night of. I think the series started of extremely strong, but didn't really stay on that level throughout. Still a really good show with great performances by the usual suspects. I'm glad it's a 8 episode run and they didn't milk it dry.

 

[Völler]

The problem with Mr Robot is that it isn't weird. It is incredibly mainstream actually. Not only is the actual premisse a simple modern Robin Hood, the protagonist also holds a worldview that is increasingly common among young people and that is filled with halftruths at best.

Don't get me wrong, I actually quite like the show. But it is something that was obviously created with the reddit generation in mind.

Take this entire conglomerates are bad thing they've got going on. That's an idea that is very prevalent these days, but I don't agree with it at all. Conglomerates are simply amoral. There is no good or bad, there's just profit. A smart show would also say you need to fight them, but wouldn't link it with morality.

As always, not nearly as good as The Wire.

I don't agree with the bolded part. Mr. Robot is a character driven show with an unreliable narrator. It's not trying to give us nuanced social commentary, but to put us in the place of the main character. To me, linking conglomerates with morality is the writers showing us Elliot's point of view and not necessarily their own opinion. That doesn't mean that there isn't anything to learn from the show: It's just that the information we get is deliberately very biased.

 

[Seven]

I don't agree with the bolded part. Mr. Robot is a character driven show with an unreliable narrator. It's not trying to give us nuanced social commentary, but to put us in the place of the main character. To me, linking conglomerates with morality is the writers showing us Elliot's point of view and not necessarily their own opinion. That doesn't mean that there isn't anything to learn from the show: It's just that the information we get is deliberately very biased.

I've thought about that too, but I disagree. Elliot simply isn't flawed enough. Especially in the first few episodes, he seems like the only reliable and trustworthy person on Earth. If you're looking for a show that deliberately gives you a fucked up main character, watch Netflix's Love. Gus is the biggest asshole I've ever seen on TV.

 

[Völler]

I've thought about that too, but I disagree. Elliot simply isn't flawed enough. Especially in the first few episodes, he seems like the only reliable and trustworthy person on Earth. If you're looking for a show that deliberately gives you a fucked up main character, watch Netflix's Love. Gus is the biggest asshole I've ever seen on TV.

How many episodes have you watched?

 

[Seven]

How many episodes have you watched?

Just 5 so far. Maybe it gets better, but I just don't find any of it subtle enough. For example Elliot has issues, but they're presented as being tremendously socially awkward and suffering from hallucinations. That's the equivalent of saying 'hey, this guy is fucked up real bad'. In the meantime he seems to make okay moral choices and despite his assumed social awkwardness he seems quite comfortable talking to people and even beds a girl without any real effort.

 

[Völler]

Just 5 so far. Maybe it gets better, but I just don't find any of it subtle enough. For example Elliot has issues, but they're presented as being tremendously socially awkward and suffering from hallucinations. That's the equivalent of saying 'hey, this guy is fucked up real bad'. In the meantime he seems to make okay moral choices and despite his assumed social awkwardness he seems quite comfortable talking to people and even beds a girl without any real effort.

That makes sense. You need to watch a bit more before I can elaborate.

 

[swag]

I don't agree with the bolded part. Mr. Robot is a character driven show with an unreliable narrator. It's not trying to give us nuanced social commentary, but to put us in the place of the main character. To me, linking conglomerates with morality is the writers showing us Elliot's point of view and not necessarily their own opinion. That doesn't mean that there isn't anything to learn from the show: It's just that the information we get is deliberately very biased.

See: the Occupy movement. This isn't some randomly brand new stuff we're talking about here.

 

[Völler]

See: the Occupy movement. This isn't some randomly brand new stuff we're talking about here.

???

 

[Seven]

See: the Occupy movement. This isn't some randomly brand new stuff we're talking about here.

Well, no, it's not. That was my main point inititially. It presents itself as a deep show, talks about a world order, rich v. poor, the influence of social media... all that sort of stuff, which has been adressed in so many other shows and movies by now.

 

[Lion]

Not in the way Mr robot does it.

Mr robot makes it relevant.


And saying it's been done before is a poor argument. I can use that logic and say the wire is a cliche show because law and order did cops way before it did

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[Seven]

Not in the way Mr robot does it.

Mr robot makes it relevant.


And saying it's been done before is a poor argument. I can use that logic and say the wire is a cliche show because law and order did cops way before it did

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Yeah. You're the kind of guy I expect to like this show.

 

[Lion]

And what kind of guy is that?

Cuz I work for a big conglomerate.

I work in finance sector

And I am a capitalist pig.

And I don't reddit


So which aspect of me is it targeting?

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