Gay Adoption (3 Viewers)

[Fred]

@ Fred
Meh, consentual cannibalism is pretty much impossible anyway (except that stuff that happened in Germany a while back), so that's not even worth discussing.
The consentual incest thing is more difficult imo.

Regardless, the gay adoption discussion is a very difficult one, but also a very interesting one. A discussion where both sides can come up with strong arguments.
Sadly, half the people in this thread, if not more, treat it as nothing more than a joke.


@ Gay Elvin
What is there to explain? It's a shady spot underneath a tree.

I understand their may be complications with cannibalism by killing someone and then eating him ala the German case. But what if someone gives you signed agreement that you can have him for lunch after he dies?

Something like incest is frowned upon by society, much more so than homosexuality. Whose to say that people won't come out of the closet if it all of a sudden becomes accepted and people are allowed to marry their sisters, brothers or mothers. It sounds twisted just thinking of it, but if we're going to go by the logic that we should allow any two consenting adults to have sexual intercourse if they choose to. Then why don't i see you guys fighting for the rights of those who want to commit incest?

 

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[Elvin]

I think a 12 year old boy having sex with a male family dog should be legal.
They should also have a right to get married and adopt puppies.

 

[IrishZebra]

Fred has a point, biologically speaking, Incest> Gays in terms of propagating the species. The problem is Gay Sex and Incest aren't the same thing, Incest can be either Gay Sex or Heterosexual Sex. It like to idiots here who equate homosexuality to bestiality or necrophilia without realising that you could use that logic for straight sex just as easily, primarily because Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon and not a Human Abberation.

 

[Fred]

Fred has a point, biologically speaking, Incest> Gays in terms of propagating the species. The problem is Gay Sex and Incest aren't the same thing, Incest can be either Gay Sex or Heterosexual Sex. It like to idiots here who equate homosexuality to bestiality or necrophilia without realising that you could use that logic for straight sex just as easily, primarily because Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon and not a Human Abberation.

Don't worry, i didn't leave the gay chaps out of my incest argument. See the bolded part

I understand their may be complications with cannibalism by killing someone and then eating him ala the German case. But what if someone gives you signed agreement that you can have him for lunch after he dies?

Something like incest is frowned upon by society, much more so than homosexuality. Whose to say that people won't come out of the closet if it all of a sudden becomes accepted and people are allowed to marry their sisters, brothers or mothers. It sounds twisted just thinking of it, but if we're going to go by the logic that we should allow any two consenting adults to have sexual intercourse if they choose to. Then why don't i see you guys fighting for the rights of those who want to commit incest?

 

[Zlatan]

I understand their may be complications with cannibalism by killing someone and then eating him ala the German case. But what if someone gives you signed agreement that you can have him for lunch after he dies?

Something like incest is frowned upon by society, much more so than homosexuality. Whose to say that people won't come out of the closet if it all of a sudden becomes accepted and people are allowed to marry their sisters, brothers or mothers. It sounds twisted just thinking of it, but if we're going to go by the logic that we should allow any two consenting adults to have sexual intercourse if they choose to. Then why don't i see you guys fighting for the rights of those who want to commit incest?

Exactly what we should do, we should allow any two consenting adults to have any kind of sexual intercourse they want.


And if it were up to me I'd decriminalize/allow such relationships. I dont think there would be a huge surge even if it were allowed anyway.

 

[Azzurri7]

Gays should have the same rights as all. The US preaches to the world that "all men are created equal" and that we all share the same human and civil rights, but then passes legislation to ban gay marriage and gay adoption. What hypocrisy! I live in North Carolina, the only state in the South that does not have a Constitutional ban on gay marriage, but sadly an Amendment to ban gay marriage will now be on the ballot in November. Our motor vehicle registration plate used to read "First in Freedom", forgetting that this was a slave state and needed a 4-year civil war to change that.

Personally I couldn't care less about gay marriage. But I'm against gay adoption. I have a total different view about gays adopting a baby. If so much gay couples are in-need of a baby then why marry someone from same sex when you know you can't get him pregnant from his anus? Some would tell me it's how they were born it's how their body is created, I say this can be treated. Gays can be treated just like any Cocaine addict that can be treated.

Let's make it really simple, one of the purposes of this life is making a family, man marries woman, penis goes inside a vagina not a penis hitting another penis or an anus. I would understand a normal couples adopting a baby, some women can't get pregnant for obvious reasons and some men's sperm isn't as sufficient to get their women pregnant, that I totally understand.

 

[Fred]

You can't know that. For all we know, the only reason we might think its not common is because its so unaccepted in society. At least you're consistent though. Twisted yes, but consistent

 

[IrishZebra]

Personally I couldn't care less about gay marriage. But I'm against gay adoption. I have a total different view about gays adopting a baby. If so much gay couples are in-need of a baby then why marry someone from same sex when you know you can't get him pregnant from his anus? Some would tell me it's how they were born it's how their body is created, I say this can be treated. Gays can be treated just like any Cocaine addict that can be treated.

Let's make it really simple, one of the purposes of this life is making a family, man marries woman, penis goes inside a vagina not a penis hitting another penis or an anus. I would understand a normal couples adopting a baby, some women can't get pregnant for obvious reasons and some men's sperm isn't as sufficient to get their women pregnant, that I totally understand.

You're leaving out lesbians? why are you leaving out lesbians?

It saddens me that you think it is a rare disorder that can be treated, that attitude has led to numerous suicides

 

[Salvo]

What do you mean with the cocaine treatment? Gay people do not choose to be gay,they are born.

 

[Zlatan]

You can't know that. For all we know, the only reason we might think its not common is because its so unaccepted in society. At least you're consistent though. Twisted yes, but consistent

And even if it were common, would it make a difference? It would only mean you would be making more peoples' lives easier and arguably happier. Wouldnt make a difference whatsoever to me the number of them.


And I'm not twisted, I'm just very open minded

 

[Elvin]

What do you mean with the cocaine treatment? Gay people do not choose to be gay,they are born.

Isn't it strange that more gays are being 'born" in countries where it is OK to be gay? I don't see many gays in African tribes.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I understand their may be complications with cannibalism by killing someone and then eating him ala the German case. But what if someone gives you signed agreement that you can have him for lunch after he dies?

What makes you think I'm into that stuff?

Still, if both persons think this would be "fun", who am I to stop them? It's surely not going to bother the dead guy, is it? Sounds a bit sick though.

Something like incest is frowned upon by society, much more so than homosexuality. Whose to say that people won't come out of the closet if it all of a sudden becomes accepted and people are allowed to marry their sisters, brothers or mothers. It sounds twisted just thinking of it, but if we're going to go by the logic that we should allow any two consenting adults to have sexual intercourse if they choose to. Then why don't i see you guys fighting for the rights of those who want to commit incest?

Like I said, consentual incest is an even more difficult subject. In theory, I don't have anything against it, in practice however there are a number of complications.

Regardless, the gay adoption discussion is a very difficult one, but also a very interesting one. A discussion where both sides can come up with strong arguments.
Sadly, half the people in this thread, if not more, treat it as nothing more than a joke.

Case in point =>

I think a 12 year old boy having sex with a male family dog should be legal.
They should also have a right to get married and adopt puppies.

 

[Salvo]

Its not about more gay people being born there. It is about people feeling safer coming out.

 

[Azzurri7]

You're leaving out lesbians? why are you leaving out lesbians?

It saddens me that you think it is a rare disorder that can be treated, that attitude has led to numerous suicides

I'm not leaving them out, they're too in my category. Though they're helpful on the weekends when you need a change

 

[Salvo]

Homosexuality is not a condition, it can't be changed just like someone cannot be changed into a gay man.

 

[Azzurri7]

What do you mean with the cocaine treatment? Gay people do not choose to be gay,they are born.

I don't believe it's how they were born. I don't believe a boy was born to fuck/sleep/screw a boy or a girls were born dreaming of having some dog penises.

I believe they can all be treated, I know there are special treatments for this. What I meant by coca treatment is that even the hardest thing in this life can be treated even if you think one is born with a defect.

 

[Salvo]

Homosexuality is not a disease, does that mean I can convince you to be gay?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Case in point =>

No, it's not. It's a point of how can some ask for equal treatment, even if some ask incest to be legalized. They can say 'hey, we were born like this, we love our mothers... but a bit differently than others'. No, it's just a twisted mind.

 

[Azzurri7]

Homosexuality is not a condition, it can't be changed just like someone cannot be changed into a gay man.

Not really. I know women have been screwing each others, doing all Lesbian kind of stuff for some years, a threesome with me and some other times with my friend. One of them has settled down and got married to a Romanian guy I happen to know. How about that?

It can be changed. It's just the treatment isn't common and gays usually do not want these kind of help.

 

[Salvo]

Incest should not be legalized in close blood relationships because of the higher chances of birth defects.