[ENG] Premiership 2008/2009 (23 Viewers)

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Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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the final in which he scored a goal, and made a mockery out of Essien on the right side???


You said it, i'm not in the mood to look for it now though. You do admit to saying Paro is better than Cesc though right?

thats not the point, the point is Juve always had top class players with DP, stop making it sound like he was playing with average players.
yes and almost cost man utd the cl with the penalty miss, fact is he is a big game choker.

the fact is you can look where i said palladino is better than ronaldo because you wont find it. at the time paro was fantastic for juve

neither did i say average, good with some top class players yes, but we were ever hardly the galacticos of italy, like i said the brazil squad back then was far superior to what juve have ever had, juve rely more on del piero than brazil ever did with pele
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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yes and almost cost man utd the cl with the penalty miss, fact is he is a big game choker.

the fact is you can look where i said palladino is better than ronaldo because you wont find it. at the time paro was fantastic for juve

neither did i say average, good with some top class players yes, but we were ever hardly the galacticos of italy, like i said the brazil squad back then was far superior to what juve have ever had, juve rely more on del piero than brazil ever did with pele

He missed a penalty, that doesnt erase what he did over 120 minutes. He was one of Man Utd's better players.


Are you really trying to justify that statement??


Libya depend on Tarek El Tayeb more than Juve ever depended on DP so we can conclude that El Tayeb is better than DP??
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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He missed a penalty, that doesnt erase what he did over 120 minutes. He was one of Man Utd's better players.


Are you really trying to justify that statement??


Libya depend on Tarek El Tayeb more than Juve ever depended on DP so we can conclude that El Tayeb is better than DP??

no but then again juve play in a much more competative league than the brazilian and the mls and the libyan in your case
 

Fabregas23

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Mar 19, 2006
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People coming out with this Flamini thing but I think it's a a bit of a myth, a cliche propagated by the media.

We do miss Flamini, as Denilson couldn't mark a traffic cone, but Fabregas still gets 'freedom' to go forward, still has plenty of time on the ball, and makes the same runs he made last season.

The difference is, Hleb is no longer there to pick him out and play the combination football. Hleb was put down as a winger but he was really an auxillary central playmaker. We basically had two playmakers with him and Cesc.

Yes Nasri looks set to be more of a goal threat but the rest of his game pales in comparison to Hleb. Doesn't dribble as well, less visionary passes, less off the ball movement.

We're just shit this year without him. No direction in our play. Cesc is good but SLOW. That's where Hleb edges him. Hleb could mix it up and dribble, whereas Cesc relies on passing his way up the pitch all the time and being picked out.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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People coming out with this Flamini thing but I think it's a a bit of a myth, a cliche propagated by the media.

We do miss Flamini, as Denilson couldn't mark a traffic cone, but Fabregas still gets 'freedom' to go forward, still has plenty of time on the ball, and makes the same runs he made last season.

The difference is, Hleb is no longer there to pick him out and play the combination football. Hleb was put down as a winger but he was really an auxillary central playmaker. We basically had two playmakers with him and Cesc.

Yes Nasri looks set to be more of a goal threat but the rest of his game pales in comparison to Hleb. Doesn't dribble as well, less visionary passes, less off the ball movement.

We're just shit this year without him. No direction in our play. Cesc is good but SLOW. That's where Hleb edges him. Hleb could mix it up and dribble, whereas Cesc relies on passing his way up the pitch all the time and being picked out.
answer: bring back pires? make fabregas captain, and sort out a proper def mid so that cesc doesnt have to do half the defensive work that he is now to make up for flamini's departure and denilson's failure

slightly off topic but when is rosicky due back? i had no idea how short he is till i met him few months ago at the opening of a local arsenal store
 
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well thats where i think alot of that is with the fact he always had a good team around him, whereby del piero has always carried juve himself, much like maradona did with argentina and napoli
That is the biggest loads of tosh I have read for sometime, and that saying something considering the waffle spouted here abouts.

You have insulted many a fine juventus player, many a legend, many a hero.

Shameful.
 

Fabregas23

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Mar 19, 2006
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Rosicky is a lost cause. He's never coming back in my opinion. Which is a shame, cause he is a great player as well.

Rosicky, Fabregas, Hleb. A midfield that made the mouth salivate.

Now, we Eboue, Denilson, Song, Diaby, and headless chicken Walcott, who is out for three months with a dislocated shoulder.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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Rosicky is a lost cause. He's never coming back in my opinion. Which is a shame, cause he is a great player as well.

Rosicky, Fabregas, Hleb. A midfield that made the mouth salivate.

Now, we Eboue, Denilson, Song, Diaby, and headless chicken Walcott, who is out for three months with a dislocated shoulder.

rosick cesc hleb unbalanced as a 3 man mid but a destroyer would improve it greatly

cant wait to hear england's excuse tomorrow when they lose to germany

"but we didnt have lampard,gerrard and walcott, and mancienne had an unusually bad game in defence"
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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Badass Devil, your statement that Paro is better than Fabregas was a great one, but Del Piero > Pele is your masterpiece until now. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna put it in my sig as one of the greatest statements that has been made in the history of not just Juventuz, but in the history of internet.
 
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