Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (173 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

I liked it. Life is easy if you look at it like that. I know a black guy, so I can't be racist.

I've spend 8 houres per week in a gym for the past 5 years now. In various gyms. One close to brussels, Mechelen, Vilvoorde, Hoboken(3 gyms).

95% of moroccans that enter a gym do it either for looks or to be better in kickbox or thaibox. You work in brussels, go to any gym there and find a strenght sporter of north african/middle east descent (iran,iraq,turkey,..). Ask them about moroccans. Try to evade the uppercut. Then hear the same story.

Actually, ask a turkish guy in any kebab store if he's moroccan. Be sure you got a clear exit.

Try a conversation with any. They dont understand the point of getting strong. Why ? Its eithers looks or fighting. I've had this conversation so many times at the first hoboken gym i went to.



On the other hand, here in antwerp, when you see a poster of a new thaibox/kickbox evening with a multitude of duels, half of them is called "rachid", and 3/4rd are moroccan.




Is that wrong ? No. Well, as long as they arent kicking eachother while working out. Everyone to its own. I dont know shit about thaibox or kickbox.



But if someone asks me if i should bother correcting a moroccan guy who mixes up bodybuilding and powerlifting, no, i shouldnt obviously.

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I wouldn't say they were lucky, their bench made the difference (Thiago and Coman). They were better by that bit but we've made so many avoidable mistakes it's not even funny. We still need improvements in midfield IMO as the only reliable players there are Pogba and Marchisio. Khedira is a guarantee too but he misses a lot of games which is a problem.



You're right. I still think we need improvements in midfield because possession in top level football is important. It basically makes your team run less, your defence doesn't have to stand on its toes all the time. We were very good at that last year when we reached the final and we need to strengthen our midfield to make it reach that level again. Things will get a lot easier for us.

Thats different. I agree we need to look at guarantee's, cause injuries were a major cause in the collapse after the 68th minute

 

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[Fr3sh]

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I agree with you on Yahya though! We should skip on him.

 

[Amer]

Blitz blitz blitz... blitz them all.

 

[Zacheryah]

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I agree with you on Yahya though! We should skip on him.

Toure is a bit like Lucas.

Amazing as fuck in FIFA, cause the person controlling cares for the team(toure) and has a brain(lucas)

 

[Fr3sh]

Toure is a bit like Lucas.

Amazing as fuck in FIFA, cause the person controlling cares for the team(toure) and has a brain(lucas)

Main reason that I'm against his signing is because he'll get in Pogs space and won't accept a bench role, I want players that will complement Pogs or would be willing to fill in for him when needed.

Really don't know who we should get, I'd love me a Pastore though

 

[Hydde]

Build around Pogba... do not displace or threaten him.

 

[Zacheryah]

Main reason that I'm against his signing is because he'll get in Pogs space and won't accept a bench role, I want players that will complement Pogs or would be willing to fill in for him when needed.

Really don't know who we should get, I'd love me a Pastore though

Absolutely agreed. We should get players that complement the team, and especially Pogba. With hardworking players, this tends to be fairly easy tbh.


But we are talking cm's. No Pastore or Isco

And because of the reason above, i'm not sure about Gomes. Not sure how it affects the balance with Pogba and Dybala.


Some are allready demanding Pogba as AM (retarded idea), but they have one interesting reasoning "because he defends on the left side". Now thats part of Pogba's game, he should do it. But we should NOT add a significantly less talented player like Pastore or Isco, for whom pogba would need to defend alot more to compensate.


No, i'll gladly have a player like Lemina or a Vidal type, or Khedira, next to Marchisio behind him. Players that are fit the team and fully complement Pogba

 

[Dominic]

I want pogba as am.

 

[zizinho]

Here's a question for everyone. You get 30M from Real for Morata but also a chance to rebuy him for 50M. Real also gives you the chance to buy Isco for 50M. Who do you choose?

I'll start with answering. Morata

 

[Hust]

I've spend 8 houres per week in a gym for the past 5 years now. In various gyms. One close to brussels, Mechelen, Vilvoorde, Hoboken(3 gyms).

95% of moroccans that enter a gym do it either for looks or to be better in kickbox or thaibox. You work in brussels, go to any gym there and find a strenght sporter of north african/middle east descent (iran,iraq,turkey,..). Ask them about moroccans. Try to evade the uppercut. Then hear the same story.

Actually, ask a turkish guy in any kebab store if he's moroccan. Be sure you got a clear exit.

Try a conversation with any. They dont understand the point of getting strong. Why ? Its eithers looks or fighting. I've had this conversation so many times at the first hoboken gym i went to.



On the other hand, here in antwerp, when you see a poster of a new thaibox/kickbox evening with a multitude of duels, half of them is called "rachid", and 3/4rd are moroccan.




Is that wrong ? No. Well, as long as they arent kicking eachother while working out. Everyone to its own. I dont know shit about thaibox or kickbox.



But if someone asks me if i should bother correcting a moroccan guy who mixes up bodybuilding and powerlifting, no, i shouldnt obviously.

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Thats different. I agree we need to look at guarantee's, cause injuries were a major cause in the collapse after the 68th minute

what did i read

 

[zizinho]

Absolutely agreed. We should get players that complement the team, and especially Pogba. With hardworking players, this tends to be fairly easy tbh.


But we are talking cm's. No Pastore or Isco

And because of the reason above, i'm not sure about Gomes. Not sure how it affects the balance with Pogba and Dybala.


Some are allready demanding Pogba as AM (retarded idea), but they have one interesting reasoning "because he defends on the left side". Now thats part of Pogba's game, he should do it. But we should NOT add a significantly less talented player like Pastore or Isco, for whom pogba would need to defend alot more to compensate.


No, i'll gladly have a player like Lemina or a Vidal type, or Khedira, next to Marchisio behind him. Players that are fit the team and fully complement Pogba

Thats the main concern i have when looking at potential AMs we might get. I dont want to limit neither Pogbas or Dybalas time on the ball. Thats why id like someone who can be effective with little time on the ball, if we do aim to sign an AM. I hope Berardi can develop into such player for us

 

[Kopanja]

Morata, no brainer.

 

[Cerval]

How exactly would Gomes affect our balance.

 

[j0ker]

Berardi, Danilo and a CM

Keep our stars.

 

[Hydde]

I want pogba as am.

Me too, but for that , Pogba needs to evolve into and even more efficient offensive player. IM especifically talking about his decition making which is not on the level i would like to for that role... so for the time being...better for him to be a b2b/freeroaming midfielder.

Here's a question for everyone. You get 30M from Real for Morata but also a chance to rebuy him for 50M. Real also gives you the chance to buy Isco for 50M. Who do you choose?

I'll start with answering. Morata

Ill have to choose Morata for all of what he has gave to us, what can possibly give us in the future. he deserves it, and we deserve him too.

Thats the main concern i have when looking at potential AMs we might get. I dont want to limit neither Pogbas or Dybalas time on the ball. Thats why id like someone who can be effective with little time on the ball, if we do aim to sign an AM. I hope Berardi can develop into such player for us

Seems like a cheaper option than the iscos and the Gomezes,,, and i can see the board pulling this card and using the rest of the resources in fixing the holes in defense and trying to solve issues like the cuadrado deal and morata deals. Berardi will most likely be our top man signing, and the rest will be typical marotta cheap but efficient solutions.

Just that this time i dont want any more last chance Hernaneses. No way ill tolerate another one like this.

 

[zizinho]

Me too, but for that , Pogba needs to evolve into and even more efficient offensive player. IM especifically talking about his decition making which is not on the level i would like to for that role... so for the time being...better for him to be a b2b/freeroaming midfielder.



Ill have to choose Morata for all of what he has gave to us, what can possibly give us in the future. he deserves it, and we deserve him too.




Seems like a cheaper option than the iscos and the Gomezes,,, and i can see the board pulling this card and using the rest of the resources in fixing the holes in defense and trying to solve issues like the cuadrado deal and morata deals. Berardi will most likely be our top man signing, and the rest will be typical marotta cheap but efficient solutions.

Just that this time i dont want any more last chance Hernaneses. No way ill tolerate another one like this.

Could you post a list of players that fit into this? I'll mail it to Marotta right away. Subject "mercato 2016 possible top signings"

 

[Fr3sh]

Absolutely agreed. We should get players that complement the team, and especially Pogba. With hardworking players, this tends to be fairly easy tbh.


But we are talking cm's. No Pastore or Isco

And because of the reason above, i'm not sure about Gomes. Not sure how it affects the balance with Pogba and Dybala.


Some are allready demanding Pogba as AM (retarded idea), but they have one interesting reasoning "because he defends on the left side". Now thats part of Pogba's game, he should do it. But we should NOT add a significantly less talented player like Pastore or Isco, for whom pogba would need to defend alot more to compensate.


No, i'll gladly have a player like Lemina or a Vidal type, or Khedira, next to Marchisio behind him. Players that are fit the team and fully complement Pogba

I don't know much about that Gomes guy, actually I've never seen him play, I have no idea what he can do. But if he's a complete mid and can displace Khedira (never really appreciated him much here tbh, like way more at Madrid).
As for Pogs, I wouldn't mind him seeing as an AM once in a while, but I'm scared he'll turn into a Yahya (the goals are great, but he gave away so much of his game by focusing just on that, he was pure sex at Barca, don't know what you were saying about him being 0% factor there, allowed Xavi and Iniesta to roam freely) and I feel that Pogba can be so much more. He can be a Makelele fused with Zidane.

 

[Nenz]

The better player between the two is naturally more expensive. Isco will cost at very least 15m more then Andre Gomes is my best guess. Add to the fact the more attacking players tend to go for more. AM is more prized commodity then CMs in general.

That is one of two reason why Marotta should buy an accomplished and talented CM, not an attacking midfielder. The other is the probable purchase of Berardi, who would fit well into a 4-3-3 or 3-5-2. With a new player best suited to those systems, it would be better to spend on a box to box midfielder (where Allegri found himself having to field Sturaro, Hernanes and Lemina far more than he probably would have liked to this season) rather than adding an attacking mid who would less complement Berardi's purchase.

Although Isco is extremely tempting, that 15M could be better spent on a right back.

 

[Fr3sh]

Berardi, Danilo and a CM

Keep our stars.

That plus Cavani ( @Scottish ), would be 10/10 mercato.


BTW do we have any real chance at Danilo?

 

[Cerval]

That plus Cavani ( @Scottish ), would be 10/10 mercato.


BTW do we have any real chance at Danilo?

Fwiw, we're interested and Real and their supporters are not entirely satisfied with him.