[EN] Premier League 2005/06 (3 Viewers)

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++
I am surprised you did not mention Park, trust me he will play a great role with your team.
I know and I agree definitely but for the point of this I was talking about this first team
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


I know and I agree definitely but for the point of this I was talking about this first team
I won't be surprised if he takes a first team spot at one point in the season.
 

mikhail

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2003
9,576
++ [ originally posted by Qaterminator ] ++
I think I have not seen Geremi played since his transfer...
He played a fair bit under Ranieri. He's been replaced since. Parker strikes me as a better example - €15M for something like two appearances. He deserved more, but he wasn't given a chance.
 

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
Exactly in my opinion when Parker is on form he is better then Lampard, rather all he almost got Charlton into Europe single-handedly
 
Dec 26, 2004
10,656
++ [ originally posted by Maresca78 ] ++


well your declaration is very logical. But I can explane my thoughts this way:

1. chelasea is a very compact team. they have a great coach and they bought and still buy good players, so that they have a great midfield..

2. ManU is strong, but if you belive it or not, I think their problem will be midfield. I just can not belive that they did not buy any players for central midfield.. But because the team is unchanged I think they will be second, if Van Nistelroy gets his old form back.

3. Liverpool had allready a strong team and a good coach and now they really have selfconfidence and will give everthing to win the title but at the end they are not strong enogh for chelsea and ManU..

4 Totenham: not because of Davids but in the past years they have been allways good. I think this season they be even better...

5. Can you tell me what the problem of Arsenal was last season?? so if not I can tell you.. Arsenal have very good and talented young players but they are still not good enogh to replace viera. and this was their biggest problem last season, the bench is not strong or experienced it is a big mistake from arsenal not to buy an experienced midfielder... if they buy "Jeanes" they will be better.

The ultimate achievement that Liverpool can hope for next year is competting to win a 4th place EPL... and for CL I have my doubts if their quality is good enough to help them pass the groups stage :groan:
 

Roman

-'Tuz Fantasy Master-
Apr 19, 2003
10,778
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


Its comments like these that get on my nerves...

Why exactly? Tell me really how Chelsea are so superior? why the hell make comments like this is your not going to actually say why?

Exactly what do Chelsea have superior? Money, and? and?

This is the last time I do something like this, so pay attention.

Formation: 4-3-3

Goalkeepers
Van der Sar was easily one of the best goalkeepers in the premiership, he is an excellent shot-stopper, his catching and his handling are also very good. He is experienced and knows what its like playing at the highest level, both domestically and internationally he has over 100 dutch caps, he is assured and breaths confidence into his defence, he is agile and instinctive and one of the best keepers i've seen in one-on-ones.

Defence
You have Gary Neville, who is one of the best right-backs in the world, he is consistent, excellent in both defence and attack. Rio arguably the best central defender in the world, he is the most composed player I've seen, when on the ball he can bring it out of defence even under pressure. Silvestre is the weak link, he is accident-prone and that makes him a liability, overall he is a good defender, but something I think he has 2 left-feet. Heinze, player of the season last year, if I had to describe him in 2 words it would be, determinded and tenacious. I wouldnt swap him for anyone in the world.

Midfield
Fletcher is a very good young player, I say Fletcher but this is the most rotatable position in the team but I'll use him as he is the most adeque for the job, his problems are he is too easily knocked of the ball, but his passing and tackling are very good, physically he needs to be stronger. Keane is now the weaklink in our midfield, for the simple reason he cant cover has much distance as he used to, that is why we play 4-3-3 to accomodate him, personally I wish it was still 4-4-2. Scholes is a great player, one of the most underrated playmakers in the world, passing is his biggest attitube along with scoring you know with him you'll easily get 10+ goals every season.

Attack
Ronaldo, where do I start with this kid, he is fast, his pace is a nightmare for full-backs, then you have his trickey, he can make defender think they can easily tackle him and next thing they know he has gone around them, my only problem with him is he sometimes keeps the ball too long, does a trick when a pass is more effective, but that is his decision making, and that will naturally improve with time, ability-wise he is among the very best of wingers in the world. Ruud van Nistelrooy, I laughed myself to death reading comments from people about him, apparently he is a useless striker...yet 37 goals in 40 games (I checked) in Europe for Man Utd, he is the most effective striker in Europe. and 127 goals in 3 years...hell if he is useless, does a useful striker exist? Wayne Rooney, he is amazing...I dont even like him but he has the potential to be as good as Maradona was, he is big, strong, he is surprisingly fast, he is smart has good vision and his power is amazing, he can score incredible goals and simple goals, in fact besides his temperment which isnt really a problem, I cant find a problem with him.

Now, ffs if your only going to reply with a stupid :rofl: smiley dont even bother, because your an idiot, I am sick of the idiotic comments without backing up what the person is saying when they write them.
Well,listen to me sweetheart,you're again taking things to close to your heart with lots of nerves...don't be angry on every post ppl making here.
you need to relax,smlie,look around,smoke some and be happy.trust me,sometimes everyone needs it.

To the point!i'l try to make not so long...

Notice!
i never said Man.utd not good enough to fight for the title,even if i hate this team the most(more than Real and Roma),i still say that they do play a nice football,they are a very good team.

But,you goota agree with me,the season is sooo long and when Man.utd have no solid back ups they will crack once again,i saying they wouldn't hold it like Chelsea,who on the bench have players like:
Cole,Fillips,Geremi,Crespo,Carvalho,Ferreira/Bridge,Tiago,Gudjonson, Charlton Cole...

Man,and that's only the bench....

Cech-he is better thatn V.saar yeah Van der saar has the expirince but have you watched what kind of mistakes he did with Fulham?
few from those could be vital to manchester,
Rio,he is great nothing to say.Silvestre?soo many mistakes becomes vital...
Hinze also very good.
Gary is good but getting old,and is injury-prone...yeah Cicionho will bak him up ok,but what about CD who is on bench?

Damn Chelsea's D conceaded only 13(+/-) goals all season in England,lost only one match!
and plus they bougth Del Horno to add a GREAT LB.
Man utd haven't bought anyone(Cicihno............).
u see?

Giggs is not even half the player he were 2 years ago,older,slower....not the same,not same.
Scholes,ok if he is injured who steps up?
Keane is damn old...he is waaay worse player he used to be....
Fletcher?:Dplz....
Ronaldo?yeah he is great but we saw what Man.utd did againstMilan last season!haha...that litlle prick started to FIGHT Maldini coz the 37-years old legend made him look like a fool,and this kid just couldn't do shit.

Ruud and Rooney great.

Manchester was in need of new world class players,yeah they added Park ok...
i can't see Manchster changing alot this year as well,they need players,thay haven't bought.
and with those players they failed last year,even when where playing Chelseas at Old trafford when Chelseas was already crowned champions,the blues came and won,with some soccer-school lessons...you can't compare the 2 squads...
Robben-Lampard-Makelele-Duff -Drogba....
maybe even Essien!

they are so solid so strong...you saw it last year,and will be even stronger this year,Mourinio's second year+the squad is pretty new,the players now know each other well.

Manchester?no new blood,same old stuff already 2-3 years....

Against Chelsea?sinply not enough!good but not enough!
youl'see that....

and Money?yeah it is the money,you right.not fair?maybe,but nothing you could do...there is no rules against it...all legal:angel:

actually i don't get man.utd,they have the money and they don't buy...
i wish Juve would have that money...and still making smart purchaces.

so,i will be suprised if at end of the day it will be not Chelsea who is crowned by the champions of the premiership title.

for sure i forgot something,but i just gotta go,see ya.

Have a good day.;)
 

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
Either way, all this is guess work until firstly we see if anyone else is brought in (ie. Ballack is an almost certainly either before August 31st or next season). That'll make a big different.

But I cant by my prediction Chelsea wont win again thing season.
 

mikhail

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2003
9,576
++ [ originally posted by Chxta ] ++
My prediction to win the EPL this season: Pool!
Won't happen, methinks. Still no cover in centre half, and not much pace there either. New keeper, which could mean anything, and still lacking a genuinely threatening attack. Gerrard can't generate (and score) it all on his own, and I don't see Zenden being the solution to that.
 

Henry

Senior Member
Sep 30, 2003
5,517
what is worrying about pool is the fact that manu, chelsea, and arsenal are much more willing to really splash the cash once in a while (well, all the time for chelsea) when there is a real top quality player available that they want. pool's record signing, at approximately 15 million, iirc, is Cisse. How many times have chelsea gone out and spent that much money? I just don't understand how liverpool expects to compete when they they aren't willing to spend. and when they do....crouch? wtf???
 

Roman

-'Tuz Fantasy Master-
Apr 19, 2003
10,778
I am a Chelsea fan,but i really would be glad to see a great fight for the title,is just i can't see any team that can take it from 'the blues'.

all this to the moment,there is still time for teams to bring some players that can change ithe situation in the EPL.
 

ashwin

Junior Member
Jul 19, 2005
190
++ [ originally posted by HWIENIAWSKI ] ++
what is worrying about pool is the fact that manu, chelsea, and arsenal are much more willing to really splash the cash once in a while (well, all the time for chelsea) when there is a real top quality player available that they want. pool's record signing, at approximately 15 million, iirc, is Cisse. How many times have chelsea gone out and spent that much money? I just don't understand how liverpool expects to compete when they they aren't willing to spend. and when they do....crouch? wtf???
i cannot believe that u even considered putting arsenal and manchester united's spending power in chelsea's league. spending money has absolutely fvck all to do with winning titles. liverpool spent alot bringing half of spain over to anfield. arsenal half spent less that spurs or even birmingham over the past years. and man utd haven't exactly gone around and brought crespo's and robben's this season either. liverpool can spend as much as they want, its not gonna make them premiership champions within a year.

the reason liverpool wont win the league is cos quality wise they just dont have players that are good enough.
 

ashwin

Junior Member
Jul 19, 2005
190
++ [ originally posted by Roman ] ++
I am a Chelsea fan,but i really would be glad to see a great fight for the title,is just i can't see any team that can take it from 'the blues'.

all this to the moment,there is still time for teams to bring some players that can change ithe situation in the EPL.
again, chelsea's quality being overated. they're not invisible. they aren't the haarlem globe trotters or whatever the heck they are called. they're not world superpowers. quality wise chelsea have not performed as well as the press makes it out. they take their chances, thats about it. they can be beaten, and it wont take a spectacular effort to do so either.
 

Roman

-'Tuz Fantasy Master-
Apr 19, 2003
10,778
++ [ originally posted by ashwin ] ++


again, chelsea's quality being overated. they're not invisible. they aren't the haarlem globe trotters or whatever the heck they are called. they're not world superpowers. quality wise chelsea have not performed as well as the press makes it out. they take their chances, thats about it. they can be beaten, and it wont take a spectacular effort to do so either.
It will,and if it happens i bbelieve not too msny times,last year it happens once,i believe this year will be the same,max maybe 2-3...
Manchester and Arsenal don't have enough depth in their squads to face a mission to lose only once or twice.

moreover what did Manchester and Arsenal do over the summer till now?got stronger?not really....and i'm not even talking about letting Vieira go.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
++ [ originally posted by ashwin ] ++


again, chelsea's quality being overated. they're not invisible. they aren't the haarlem globe trotters or whatever the heck they are called. they're not world superpowers. quality wise chelsea have not performed as well as the press makes it out. they take their chances, thats about it. they can be beaten, and it wont take a spectacular effort to do so either.
No, they're not invisible :D
 

Henry

Senior Member
Sep 30, 2003
5,517
++ [ originally posted by ashwin ] ++


i cannot believe that u even considered putting arsenal and manchester united's spending power in chelsea's league. spending money has absolutely fvck all to do with winning titles. liverpool spent alot bringing half of spain over to anfield. arsenal half spent less that spurs or even birmingham over the past years. and man utd haven't exactly gone around and brought crespo's and robben's this season either. liverpool can spend as much as they want, its not gonna make them premiership champions within a year.

the reason liverpool wont win the league is cos quality wise they just dont have players that are good enough.
I don't put them in the same bracket, but they have all been spending more than pool
 

ashwin

Junior Member
Jul 19, 2005
190
liverpool spent 32 million pounds in 2004. arsenal spent 18 million pounds in that same year.

and lets look at this year. how many players have liverpool bought: Antonio Barragan, Jose Reina, Mohammed Sissoko, Boudewijn Zenden and Peter Crouch. now barragan and zenden came on free's (zenden no doubt having a massive signing on fee, but we'll ignore that; just for arguments sake). sissoko came for 5.5 million, crouch for 7 million, reina for 6 million. making a grand total of 18.5 million pounds spent this summer by liverpool.

arsenal on the other hand, bought hleb for around 7 million pounds (upto ten depending on performances). oh and they got song on loan.

so now you tell me, who's spent more this year?

i could do this year after year after year, and arsenal would have spent less money than liverpool.

face it, its not money that matters. the recent liverpool team is just shite.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
Hey ashwin, how do you rate Hleb? Do you reckon he's got what it takes to hold down a regular first team place?
 

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