[EN] Premier League 2004/05 (13 Viewers)
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++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
i couldnt mail it to you,i dont know why
but anyway here's the video clip
http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PUXHCDCXF9LM15RAP2X964UQA
i couldnt mail it to you,i dont know why
but anyway here's the video cliphttp://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PUXHCDCXF9LM15RAP2X964UQA
btw,i saw your skill compilation part 2,man that was sick:thumbsup:
Just when we had begun to wonder if Newcastle United were at last cleaning up their act, along came Lee Bowyer and Kieron Dyer to add the next preposterous instalment to the soap opera script of Life at St James' Park. Oh, to have been a fly on the wall of the home dressing room when the manager Graeme Souness confronted his two midfielders after they were sent off for brawling in front of some 50,000 fans in the closing minutes of the 3-0 defeat against Aston Villa on an afternoon that was supposed to have been celebration of Alan Shearer. The hard man Souness versus the resident head-cases would have made compulsive viewing.
And what thoughts must have been running through Shearer's mind? The ground had risen to salute this Geordie icon in recognition of his decision to give them one more season as a player instead of taking a seat alongside Gary Lineker in the Match Of The Day studio. Souness had announced 24 hours earlier that Shearer would be player-coach next year and, one day, could be his successor as manager. By Saturday night, the offer was looking more like a gruesome threat than a tempting promise.
Souness fingered Bowyer as the culprit in the fracas, and the slow-motion television replays that Shearer might have been analysing in another life seemed to support his judgment. This, let us not forget, is the same Bowyer who has a bit of form when it comes to sorting out grievances violently. Although he was cleared of grievous bodily harm and affray after a rowdy night out with Leeds team-mates left an Asian student seriously injured, he had previously been convicted of attacking the staff of a McDonald's restaurant.
The surprise in Dyer's involvement was that it came on the same day as a public apology to Sir Bobby Robson for the behaviour he realises contributed to Robson's sacking earlier in the season when Dyer more or less refused to play in the position where he was told to play. It has taken months for the Toon Army to begin to forgive him for putting the knife into football's favourite grandad, so it will be interesting to see if they turn on him once again.
The immediate upshot will be FA bans that will rule Bowyer and Dyer out of the FA Cup semi-final against Manchester United, unless Newcastle somehow manage to get the red card against Dyer rescinded, and their absence hardly bodes well for their club's chances of reaching the final. Meanwhile, with a tough-looking Uefa Cup tie against Sporting Lisbon looming on Thursday, Souness can hardly be relishing European competition so soon after a humiliating Premiership defeat while his team is once more giving very public evidence of its warring factions.
Bowyer and Dyer's apology to the fans, the chairman, their club and families was all very well. But neither said sorry to the other man. Where was the public handshake that might have suggested this simmering enmity would not explode into open confrontation once again? Where was the recognition that they are professional sportsmen who, like all of us, sometimes have to work alongside those we do not choose as bosom buddies.
All this, Shearer now realises can be his and he must be wincing at the prospect. Apparently a Souness charm offensive, whereby the manager regularly tells the world the former England star remains the best striker in the business, finally paid dividends on a recent morale-building trip to Dubai. Goodness only knows what Bowyer and Dyer were doing, but Shearer admitted a few drinks might have taken their toll on his powers of reason as he agreed to extend his playing career in a rare u-turn.
This was the man, after all, who had been strong enough to shun Manchester United to return to Tyneside, and had taken the tough decision to walk away from international football when he realised his best days were past at the highest level. He knows time is taking its toll and he had seemed ready to quit while the crowds were still calling for more. In another era, Denis Law crossed Manchester to play for City in the last days of his playing career and looked little more than a shadow of the man who was arguably the greatest striker ever to wear the United jersey. Perhaps, with hindsight, he might have been better to have bowed out as an Old Trafford legend. And so it might be with Shearer.
Souness has played a smart card pandering to the ego of the crowd favourite who saw Ruud Gullit sacked when he had the temerity to leave him out of the side, and who watched as Robson was shown the door after also choosing to leave Shearer on the bench. (The chairman Freddy Shepherd said this weekend that Shearer would not have played on had Robson remained.) And Shearer has been an ally for Souness this season when a trigger-happy chairman might have been getting nervous once more as results left the club out of contention for a place in the Champions League.
Perhaps there will still, finally, be a cup to place in the Newcastle trophy cabinet at the end of the season. But many an idea seems wonderful late at night over a few beers, while reality can be rather less appealing in the sober light of day. My worry is that Shearer has committed to a season too many, while Bowyer and Dyer have given an all too graphic reminder that the St James' Park manager's job may be just about the toughest assignment in English football.
Got this from The Guardian
And what thoughts must have been running through Shearer's mind? The ground had risen to salute this Geordie icon in recognition of his decision to give them one more season as a player instead of taking a seat alongside Gary Lineker in the Match Of The Day studio. Souness had announced 24 hours earlier that Shearer would be player-coach next year and, one day, could be his successor as manager. By Saturday night, the offer was looking more like a gruesome threat than a tempting promise.
Souness fingered Bowyer as the culprit in the fracas, and the slow-motion television replays that Shearer might have been analysing in another life seemed to support his judgment. This, let us not forget, is the same Bowyer who has a bit of form when it comes to sorting out grievances violently. Although he was cleared of grievous bodily harm and affray after a rowdy night out with Leeds team-mates left an Asian student seriously injured, he had previously been convicted of attacking the staff of a McDonald's restaurant.
The surprise in Dyer's involvement was that it came on the same day as a public apology to Sir Bobby Robson for the behaviour he realises contributed to Robson's sacking earlier in the season when Dyer more or less refused to play in the position where he was told to play. It has taken months for the Toon Army to begin to forgive him for putting the knife into football's favourite grandad, so it will be interesting to see if they turn on him once again.
The immediate upshot will be FA bans that will rule Bowyer and Dyer out of the FA Cup semi-final against Manchester United, unless Newcastle somehow manage to get the red card against Dyer rescinded, and their absence hardly bodes well for their club's chances of reaching the final. Meanwhile, with a tough-looking Uefa Cup tie against Sporting Lisbon looming on Thursday, Souness can hardly be relishing European competition so soon after a humiliating Premiership defeat while his team is once more giving very public evidence of its warring factions.
Bowyer and Dyer's apology to the fans, the chairman, their club and families was all very well. But neither said sorry to the other man. Where was the public handshake that might have suggested this simmering enmity would not explode into open confrontation once again? Where was the recognition that they are professional sportsmen who, like all of us, sometimes have to work alongside those we do not choose as bosom buddies.
All this, Shearer now realises can be his and he must be wincing at the prospect. Apparently a Souness charm offensive, whereby the manager regularly tells the world the former England star remains the best striker in the business, finally paid dividends on a recent morale-building trip to Dubai. Goodness only knows what Bowyer and Dyer were doing, but Shearer admitted a few drinks might have taken their toll on his powers of reason as he agreed to extend his playing career in a rare u-turn.
This was the man, after all, who had been strong enough to shun Manchester United to return to Tyneside, and had taken the tough decision to walk away from international football when he realised his best days were past at the highest level. He knows time is taking its toll and he had seemed ready to quit while the crowds were still calling for more. In another era, Denis Law crossed Manchester to play for City in the last days of his playing career and looked little more than a shadow of the man who was arguably the greatest striker ever to wear the United jersey. Perhaps, with hindsight, he might have been better to have bowed out as an Old Trafford legend. And so it might be with Shearer.
Souness has played a smart card pandering to the ego of the crowd favourite who saw Ruud Gullit sacked when he had the temerity to leave him out of the side, and who watched as Robson was shown the door after also choosing to leave Shearer on the bench. (The chairman Freddy Shepherd said this weekend that Shearer would not have played on had Robson remained.) And Shearer has been an ally for Souness this season when a trigger-happy chairman might have been getting nervous once more as results left the club out of contention for a place in the Champions League.
Perhaps there will still, finally, be a cup to place in the Newcastle trophy cabinet at the end of the season. But many an idea seems wonderful late at night over a few beers, while reality can be rather less appealing in the sober light of day. My worry is that Shearer has committed to a season too many, while Bowyer and Dyer have given an all too graphic reminder that the St James' Park manager's job may be just about the toughest assignment in English football.
Got this from The Guardian
The two blatherin idiots. At least when Arsenal players want to fight and give themselves a bad name, they wait till they get on the bloody bus. With the tinted windows, so nobody sees it happen. You DONT go at each other in full view of 50,000 fans and the ref for God's sake. What were they thinking?:devil:
Well, i have always felt that Reyes was being unnecessarily pressured into saying stuff. and that hoax call.... anyway, he's come out today and said he is very happy at Arsenal, and doesn't want to leave, unless Arsenal want to sell him. And Arsene Wenger has said "You dont buy a player at 20 and sell him after only one season..." So Reyes stays.
Put that in your 'at an' smoke it.
Put that in your 'at an' smoke it.
All I have to say to Chel$ki fans, and to chelski in particular, is this: When we were winning trophies at Arsenal, finding a Chelsea fan was as difficult as finding an American soldier willing walk the streets of Baghdad without a flak jacket. It was brave fans who even dared to wear their jerseys to stadiums on matchdays. And for your information, Arsenal's London rivals have always been, and will always remain Tottenham Hotspur. Just because Chel$ki have a few roubles to throw around doesn't mean that a Chel$ki-Arsenal match will generate more heat and passion than a training session against Fulham. Sure Abramovich is proof that you can buy success, and good luck to him. Moaninho's attitude towards the rules of the game is simply, if you can't bend em, break em and damn the consequences. Good for him too. But as for Chel$ki becoming serious Arsenal rivals...? We'd sooner pick a fight with Boreham Wood FC.:fero:
It was brave fans who even dared to wear their jerseys to stadiums on matchdays. And for your information, Arsenal's London rivals have always been, and will always remain Tottenham Hotspur. Just because Chel$ki have a few roubles to throw around doesn't mean that a Chel$ki-Arsenal match will generate more heat and passion than a training session against Fulham. Sure Abramovich is proof that you can buy success, and good luck to him. Moaninho's attitude towards the rules of the game is simply, if you can't bend em, break em and damn the consequences. Good for him too. But as for Chel$ki becoming serious Arsenal rivals...? We'd sooner pick a fight with Boreham Wood FC.:fero:
++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++
All I have to say to Chel$ki fans, and to chelski in particular, is this: When we were winning trophies at Arsenal, finding a Chelsea fan was as difficult as finding an American soldier willing walk the streets of Baghdad without a flak jacket. It was brave fans who even dared to wear their jerseys to stadiums on matchdays. And for your information, Arsenal's London rivals have always been, and will always remain Tottenham Hotspur. Just because Chel$ki have a few roubles to throw around doesn't mean that a Chel$ki-Arsenal match will generate more heat and passion than a training session against Fulham. Sure Abramovich is proof that you can buy success, and good luck to him. Moaninho's attitude towards the rules of the game is simply, if you can't bend em, break em and damn the consequences. Good for him too. But as for Chel$ki becoming serious Arsenal rivals...? We'd sooner pick a fight with Boreham Wood FC.:fero:
All I have to say to Chel$ki fans, and to chelski in particular, is this: When we were winning trophies at Arsenal, finding a Chelsea fan was as difficult as finding an American soldier willing walk the streets of Baghdad without a flak jacket.
It was brave fans who even dared to wear their jerseys to stadiums on matchdays. And for your information, Arsenal's London rivals have always been, and will always remain Tottenham Hotspur. Just because Chel$ki have a few roubles to throw around doesn't mean that a Chel$ki-Arsenal match will generate more heat and passion than a training session against Fulham. Sure Abramovich is proof that you can buy success, and good luck to him. Moaninho's attitude towards the rules of the game is simply, if you can't bend em, break em and damn the consequences. Good for him too. But as for Chel$ki becoming serious Arsenal rivals...? We'd sooner pick a fight with Boreham Wood FC.:fero:
True. I remember only one Chelsea fan from 2 years ago, his name is Femi Sedenu. He had a Chelsea jersey, when derision was the name of the game for them. Same thing I remember only one Liverpool fan from the recent past, his name's Obiora Okafor...
Now there seem to be Chel$ki fans growing out of the bleeding ground
. Next season when Liverpool emerge as Chel$ki's main rivals, I can only begin to imagine... :nervous:
Just read an article where some guy named Rob Smyth blasts away at the attitude displayed in the aftermath of the Bowyer-Dyer bout. He says that diving is a white collar crime (cos it goes unpunished so often), while a bit of argy-bargy is instantly punished (on account of being a blue collar crime, see) and it's a class thing, cos players dont get banned for simulation (which is a pre-meditated crime), but a mere raising of the hands gets you three matches on the sidelines.
In terms of measurement, simulation is actually the greater of the two crimes as it leads to great injustice (Wayne Rooney's dive against Arsenal), which is allowed to stand, and a simple tap on a player's face (again, surprise surprise, Wayne Rooney on Ben Haim), got a 3 match ban. Whereas for significance and Machiavellism, the two crimes are incomparable.
His conclusion: The game's gone soft, gentrified. Middle-class values imposed on a working-class sport.
Well, Mr. Smyth, I dont think you'll find many working-class or even middle-class personnel on the field, or in the boardrooms for that matter. I personally belive that a £150,000 sports car carries a distinctly upper class air about it. Hence, it is not proper to drive such a machine and go about your business like a miner, steelworker, delivery boy, or common thug. What do you guys think? Should we return to the glory days of Schumacher? When football was all blood and guts? Or do we stick with the "sissyfied" system in place now?
In terms of measurement, simulation is actually the greater of the two crimes as it leads to great injustice (Wayne Rooney's dive against Arsenal), which is allowed to stand, and a simple tap on a player's face (again, surprise surprise, Wayne Rooney on Ben Haim), got a 3 match ban. Whereas for significance and Machiavellism, the two crimes are incomparable.
His conclusion: The game's gone soft, gentrified. Middle-class values imposed on a working-class sport.
Well, Mr. Smyth, I dont think you'll find many working-class or even middle-class personnel on the field, or in the boardrooms for that matter. I personally belive that a £150,000 sports car carries a distinctly upper class air about it. Hence, it is not proper to drive such a machine and go about your business like a miner, steelworker, delivery boy, or common thug. What do you guys think? Should we return to the glory days of Schumacher? When football was all blood and guts? Or do we stick with the "sissyfied" system in place now?