Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (11 Viewers)

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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ahmed the video is too cruel!!
i won't rest until each of those animals responsible get punished
:agree: some scenes are just too harsh, the scene that honestly i thought was the worst was that police van stepping over people but this was the worst i thought!! i just watched what happened in the kasr el nile bridge!!! that take brutality to a whole new level!!! i just realized why they sent egypt in the stone age with no internet bec if the people had seen this i think mubarak would've been nuked!!!!!! rabena yentem menhom they fire tear gas like its for fun literally!!! and they wonder why people cant stand looking in there faces?!?! i hope this is a lesson for them that power never lasts forever specially if u used it unfairly or with such brutality. i think one thing for sure is, long gone are the days where the police would torture people the way they used too! i hope so honestly.
 

Naggar

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Sep 4, 2007
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difinitely ya ahmed we're entering a new era
and inshaallah on friday we'll end this, and if not i dont plan to ever stop

did you go to tahrir? you have no idea how much i want to, it's the only thing i think about 24hrs
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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this banner says it all really!!! if there is some one in this list i think is a world class prick safwat takes number 1 is probably a world class c*** number 2 is the moron sorror 3 ahmed ezz have u seen this guy talk?!?!?! i swear he sounds like a woman who just got divorced and is awaiting her divorce papers to be sent to her home!!! world class prick and theif.

i dont know who the cancer guy is to be honest?? is he the health minister?? i know misleading is the prick who runs the meida ministry so no wonder the egyptain national media is such a low low sector to put it in good terms. off course no one beats opression habib el adeliee is the star of the show hands down but he has loads to deal with now so i'm happy i just hope they execute him in tahrir for all the lives that where lost and all the fear he made people have last week!!
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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difinitely ya ahmed we're entering a new era
and inshaallah on friday we'll end this, and if not i dont plan to ever stop

did you go to tahrir? you have no idea how much i want to, it's the only thing i think about 24hrs
i might go to tahrir if not then i'm def going to the one in abbas el akad isa!! i am not sure if there is one in heliopolis or not but i will def know from hist he will post it here most probably. if there is non i think i'm going to tahrir i just need to ask him how to get there bec as far as i know there is no metreo and the roads leading to tahrir are blocked there is a place u go too and then make yhr way there i just need to know where that is. i know loads of people who are going too so i think its going to be the biggest since the 25th and hopefully he gets the message loud and clear bec so far they r repeating the " the people in tahrir represent only 4 million there are 76 million egyptains who are home meaning they approve of mubarak" so i think this one is going to be it god willingly. i hear in alex its the same as tahrir. suez will probably be in action too and now el wadee el gedid so here is hoping.
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Have you heard about the demonstration that took place inside Rose Alyousef Newspaper offices? The employees could not bear the idiocy of its management which is suppoting Mubarak blindly. They were protesting inside the newspaper today. I tried to get in its website but it is down for me

    http://www.rosaonline.net/
     
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    ReBeL

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    Americans support the Egyptian protesters

    Gallup is out with a new national poll on Americans' views of the pro-democracy protests in Egypt. The results show that fear-mongering by some in the media about a post-Mubarak Egypt has apparently not taken hold, with huge majorities expressing sympathy for the protesters:

    Overall, are you sympathetic or unsympathetic to the protestors in Egypt who have called for a change in the government?

    Very sympathetic 42 | Somewhat sympathetic 40 | Somewhat unsympathetic 6 | Very unsympathetic 5 | No opinion 6


    So 82 percent of Americans are sympathetic to the protesters. Among those who are "following the situation in Egypt very or somewhat closely," that number actually goes up slightly, to 87 percent. The irony here, of course, is that Americans are on the side of protesters fighting a regime that the U.S. government has been propping up for decades.

    And it's an open question whether public opinion in the U.S. will have an impact on the Obama administration's Egypt policy, which has notably shifted in the past few days away from calls for immediate change.

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/08/poll_americans_support_egyptians
     

    Zé Tahir

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    i might go to tahrir if not then i'm def going to the one in abbas el akad isa!! i am not sure if there is one in heliopolis or not but i will def know from hist he will post it here most probably. if there is non i think i'm going to tahrir i just need to ask him how to get there bec as far as i know there is no metreo and the roads leading to tahrir are blocked there is a place u go too and then make yhr way there i just need to know where that is. i know loads of people who are going too so i think its going to be the biggest since the 25th and hopefully he gets the message loud and clear bec so far they r repeating the " the people in tahrir represent only 4 million there are 76 million egyptains who are home meaning they approve of mubarak" so i think this one is going to be it god willingly. i hear in alex its the same as tahrir. suez will probably be in action too and now el wadee el gedid so here is hoping.
    What day is this for?
     
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    ReBeL

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    Allies Press U.S. to Go Slow on Egypt


    WASHINGTON — As the Obama administration gropes for the right response to the uprising in Egypt, it has not lacked for advice from democracy advocates, academics, pundits, even members of the previous administration. But few voices have been as urgent, insistent or persuasive as those of Egypt’s neighbors.

    Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates have each repeatedly pressed the United States not to cut loose Egypt’s president, Hosni Mubarak, too hastily, or to throw its weight behind the democracy movement in a way that could further destabilize the region, diplomats say. One Middle Eastern envoy said that on a single day, he spent 12 hours on the phone with American officials.

    There is evidence that the pressure has paid off. On Saturday, just days after suggesting that it wanted immediate change, the administration said it would support an “orderly transition” managed by Vice President Omar Suleiman. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said that Mr. Mubarak’s immediate resignation might complicate, rather than clear, Egypt’s path to democracy, given the requirements of Egypt’s Constitution.

    “Everyone is taking a little breath,” said a diplomat from the region, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was discussing private conversations. “There’s a sense that we’re getting our message through.”

    While each country has its own concerns, all worry that a sudden, chaotic change in Egypt would destabilize the region or, in the Arab nations, even jeopardize their own leaders, many of whom are also autocrats facing restive populations.

    Middle East allies are only one of several constituencies the administration needs to reckon with as it responds to the turmoil in Egypt. And they are less central to its calculations than either the Egyptian government or the demonstrators — opposing forces the United States has been struggling to balance.

    Yet the allies cannot be ignored, officials said, since they, too, are vital to the United States, whether as suppliers of oil, like Saudi Arabia, or as partners with political influence in Washington, like Israel.

    “I understand the concerns of everybody in the region,” Mrs. Clinton said Sunday. She said that she had spoken to King Abdullah II of Jordan and that President Obama had made calls to other leaders. State Department officials, she said, were constantly speaking with their counterparts in the region.

    Administration officials said the tense mood in many of these countries had eased in recent days, as the United States has embraced a transition process in Egypt that does not demand Mr. Mubarak’s immediate departure.

    Still, on Tuesday, the administration stiffened its public message to Mr. Suleiman, with the White House spokesman, Robert Gibbs, saying that the Egyptian vice president “made some particularly unhelpful comments about Egypt not being ready for democracy, about not seeing a lift of the emergency law.”

    Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. conveyed that message in a call to Mr. Suleiman, the White House said, urging him to take specific steps toward democracy. The strong language from Mr. Gibbs followed some criticism of the administration from Egyptian protesters and their foreign supporters that its public statements had been contradictory and equivocal.

    On Monday, a diverse group of American specialists on Egypt and the Middle East wrote to Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton expressing concern that the United States “may acquiesce to an inadequate and possibly fraudulent transitional process in Egypt.”

    On Wednesday, Israel’s defense minister, Ehud Barak, is to meet with Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates in Washington. The meeting, which Israeli officials said came at Mr. Barak’s request, will be the first face-to-face contact between top Israeli and American officials since the Egyptian uprising began.

    Israeli officials, who have long viewed Mr. Mubarak and Mr. Suleiman as stabilizing influences in a dangerous region, have made clear to the administration that they support evolution rather than revolution in Egypt. They believe it is important to make changes within the system rather than change the system first and hope stability can be maintained, a senior Israeli official said.

    Mr. Suleiman is a longstanding Egyptian contact for the Israelis, and as a 2008 cable made public by WikiLeaks showed, he has been the Israeli government’s preferred successor to Mr. Mubarak for several years.

    “There is no question that Israel is most comfortable with the prospect” of Mr. Suleiman as the successor, the cable from Tel Aviv reported.

    Arab leaders have similar concerns. Speaking to Mr. Obama on Sunday, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed of Abu Dhabi, the Emirates’ defense chief, emphasized the need for “stability” in Egypt, according to a statement put out by the United Arab Emirates after the call. The crown prince “also stressed the necessity that the period of transition in Egypt should be smooth and organized through the framework of national institutions,” it said.

    Mr. Obama also spoke last week with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

    The Arab leaders all had the same message for the United States, several Arab officials said. They thought Mr. Obama went too far last Tuesday when he said that Mr. Mubarak needed to begin the transition in Egypt “now” — followed a day later by Mr. Gibbs’s declaration that “now means yesterday.”

    “We have been adamant that forcing Mubarak out risks instability,” said one Arab official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was discussing private exchanges. In conversations with the Obama administration, Arab officials have raised the specter of the Muslim Brotherhood, which some say has begun to hijack the protests that began among largely secular young people in Egypt adept at using Facebook and Twitter.

    One Arab diplomat likened the democracy movement to a train fueled by university students and human rights advocates.

    “Eventually, those students will have to get off that train and go back to school, and the human rights people will have to go back to work, and you know who will be on the train when it finally rolls into the station?” the diplomat asked. “The Muslim Brotherhood.”

    Mrs. Clinton said the best way for Arab countries to protect themselves was to begin addressing the grievances of their people. Noting that she warned about the need for reform in the Arab world in Qatar last month, she said, “I could not have been clearer about our concerns for all of these governments.”

    Israel, despite its deep anxiety about Egypt, has generally heeded the requests of administration officials not to inject itself into the debate. “Israel has been very wise to be low-key,” Senator John Kerry, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in an interview on Tuesday.

    Mr. Kerry, who has also talked to Arab leaders, said the crisis in Egypt had caused American allies to question “what sort of longevity there is to the notion of alliances.” But, he added, “they have to understand: this is not us making some kind of decision; this is the people of Egypt making a decision.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/world/middleeast/09diplomacy.html?_r=1&hp
     

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